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« Thread Started on Apr 24, 2012, 12:43pm »

This is meant to counter the bad players and tell them why they're bad so there would be less whiners in the future. Please, add your points in if you feel that you've been wronged.

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In MW2, I played only TDM and TDM Express, and there were a big crowd of hackers there. Sure, I'm talking not only about aimbot cool guys, I'm talking about the wallhackers, too. Yeah, aimboters usually go to Dom and Ground War, but usual wallhackers (and those cool guys with akimbo FMG9 w/ Damage and Attachments) usually choose TDM, KC, and Mercenary, cause they have no need in reaching 4 Nukes / M.O.A.B. in one game (cause they can't even gain 1, I suppose).

I can't count how many times I've called a wallhacker. Once I was even reported by this weirdo HACKERREPORT or whatever-his-name to BanCandy.
I'd love it if you nabs would stop raging and hating just cause you're beaten for your faulty gameplay. Sure, I don't know whether or not you're right about who you've so often ended up playing with, but I'm gonna open up towards all the know-it-all people who act as if they're supposed to be able to beat someone else at the game.

For my K/D of 1.98 - which is going up now since I've reached my preferred prestige and as I've 30ied all weapons' levels and just playing for the fun of it - I'm being called a hacker/cheater every two to four rounds.
Let me tell you, you haters ruin the game for everyone with such garbage talk. Shut up. Nobody needs your crappy comments and nobody needs your even more bullshit opinion because you're just not a capable enough player to do well in the game. You should learn to understand that you aren't as good and you're just supposed to get better to have any chance against the better players. First off, you very likely have bad

A. accuracy(aim)
B. weapon knowledge/experience
C. gameplay knowledge/experience
D. situational awareness
E. gadget knowledge/experience
F. perk experience
and G. overall, you're just crap in FPS games.

In TDM, I meet a single hacker only just about every 20-50 games. I've played CoD since the first game, I've played multiplayer games since Quake 2 on PC and Goldeneye 64 and I've got banned for a wallhack in SoF2 when I was maybe 14. That's 9 years ago and cheats like wallhacks and aimbots haven't changed and thus I'm still fully aware of how they work, what they cause and how the players use and try to hide them. I've got the years of experience to tell whether or not a player is cheating since I became a very analytical mind after my teenage rumbles ended. And no, I'm not playing for the teenage narcissm anymore.

TL;DR: I know that by average I won't meet hackers more often than every 20-50 rounds since I know what is a hacker. Your statements, like "big crowd of hackers", of MW2, BO or MW3 on PC is a general exaggeration.

So, who the doo-doo-n'-doo are you to tell there's a "big crowd of hackers?"
The one with a clear mind, tools and greater precision beats everyone else by mere power of will. If you rage or hate, you're not one of those with the abilities of a truly great videogame or sports player of any kind and don't actually deserve the right to say a word about them.

Yet, the internet stays open to everyone, even the haters... So I'm not gonna do anything else than seta cg_chatHeight "0" and seta cl_voice "0" about you to continue my hobby in peace. I recommend these - and know that you might even already be aware of how to use them - to all the real PC gamers who are able to enjoy this game.

Thank you for your time.
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« Reply #1 on Apr 24, 2012, 1:05pm »

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I'm a hacker and it's really starting to get to me that everyone sees it.

Also, this doesn't seem to be a technical discussion.
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« Reply #2 on Apr 24, 2012, 1:17pm »

So you used to be a cheater and now you're not (supposedly)? OK then. What part of the 12 step program is this?

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« Reply #3 on Apr 24, 2012, 1:19pm »


Apr 24, 2012, 1:05pm, mrjones wrote:
TL;DR
I'm a hacker and it's really starting to get to me that everyone sees it.

Also, this doesn't seem to be a technical discussion.


I don't give a gosh darn golly gee whiz what you wanna call me since you're just butthurt for being beat by the better. I'm still playing after being sent to BanCandy, so you can just go and look in the mirror.
Also, the technical part is in the subject for anyone who happens to know where to put it and why.
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« Reply #4 on Apr 24, 2012, 1:20pm »


Apr 24, 2012, 1:17pm, illram wrote:
So you used to be a cheater and now you're not (supposedly)? OK then. What part of the 12 step program is this?



Maybe you never figured that one out since that's all you can see in this thread. Laugh's on you.
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« Reply #5 on Apr 24, 2012, 1:23pm »

TL;DR
I'm a BLATANT hacker; here are the commands I use to block out the world and turn this into a single player game while I aimbot to victory.

That better?

EDIT: I also meant to say... If you're mad before a discussion begins, you're obviously guilty of something.
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« Reply #6 on Apr 24, 2012, 1:25pm »

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« Reply #7 on Apr 24, 2012, 1:26pm »

I personally increase the default cg_chatTime since usually text messages pass me by when I'm focused on the game.

Hackers are much more common than they should be in the PC version and that's a fact. I regularly (~1 per day) encounter hackers. I ask my team privately if they suspect the individual, wait for the game to finish, leave that lobby, and then report the player.

But while we're on the topic of config tweaks, make sure to turn off brass while you got that .cfg open.
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« Reply #8 on Apr 24, 2012, 1:45pm »


Apr 24, 2012, 1:23pm, mrjones wrote:
TL;DR
I'm a BLATANT hacker; here are the commands I use to block out the world and turn this into a single player game while I aimbot to victory.

That better?

EDIT: I also meant to say... If you're mad before a discussion begins, you're obviously guilty of something.


Response to edit: Nope. I don't see what you mean.
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« Reply #9 on Apr 24, 2012, 1:48pm »


Apr 24, 2012, 1:20pm, nalle wrote:

Apr 24, 2012, 1:17pm, illram wrote:
So you used to be a cheater and now you're not (supposedly)? OK then. What part of the 12 step program is this?



Maybe you never figured that one out since that's all you can see in this thread. Laugh's on you.


No one (on this board at least) had you and "hacker" in the same thought. Until you started this thread denying it, that is.
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« Reply #10 on Apr 24, 2012, 1:50pm »

Sorry buddy. I find this thread pointless and generally self-serving, so my reaction was naturally visceral. I should I have said nothing rather than trying to incite you. I don't really care what other people do. Personally, I consider it a complement when I am accused of hacking.

I recommend not taking people too seriously. Turning off chat and voice takes away the human interaction part of the game - that, despite the occasional psycho, is pretty healthy.
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« Reply #11 on Apr 24, 2012, 2:08pm »


Apr 24, 2012, 1:26pm, Megaqwerty wrote:
I personally increase the default cg_chatTime since usually text messages pass me by when I'm focused on the game.

Thank you, this will help a lot.


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Hackers are much more common than they should be in the PC version and that's a fact. I regularly (~1 per day) encounter hackers.

Me too.

When I started playing CoD4, almost every server had at least one guy killing people through walls across the map with his M60.


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But while we're on the topic of config tweaks, make sure to turn off brass while you got that .cfg open.

Why that?
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« Reply #12 on Apr 24, 2012, 2:17pm »

Because why have brass on when you can have it on?

In all seriousness, it's not a big deal, but it helps prevent obstructive behavior from some guns. The Kiparis, in particular, ejects its casings up and over the user (as the does the Skorpion in real life) so turning off brass keeps the irons clear.
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« Reply #13 on Apr 24, 2012, 2:48pm »


Apr 24, 2012, 12:43pm, nalle wrote:

I can't count how many times I've called a wallhacker. Once I was even reported by this weirdo HACKERREPORT or whatever-his-name to BanCandy.


What would you prefer to be called? Something more insulting, that has a bit more 'flair'? Or something that is a bit more old school, like the time tested "douchebag"
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« Reply #14 on Apr 24, 2012, 3:56pm »


Apr 24, 2012, 12:43pm, nalle wrote:
Shut up. Nobody needs your crappy comments and nobody needs your even more bulldoo-doo opinion because you're just not a capable enough player to do well in the game.


that's just like, your opinion, man.
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« Reply #15 on Apr 24, 2012, 6:25pm »

So wtf is this and what is he b!tching about? Why is he addressing us when he is angry at randoms he meets calling him a hacker?
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« Reply #16 on Apr 24, 2012, 6:44pm »

Perhaps this could be turned into a discussion about why the hackusations are being thrown around.

There are a lot of methods of detection prevalent in the game such as:
Marksman through smoke, over long distances
sitrep pro's ability to sniff out nests of equipment or soundwhore players
UAV/recon pro/recon drone allowing players to line up players and wallbang them
The introduction of Stalker, encouraging players to lead corners while ADS (because why not)
Flashing objective flags
predicting enemy traffic based off where your team is
Spamming suspected areas with LMG fire and getting lucky

Even with all the stealth perks in the game, it is still possible to be found by someone who's paying enough attention to his surroundings.

The MW3SA reporting tool allows Bancandy to get a decent idea of who is hacking and who is not. Some things are obvious like title/class hex editing, and aimbotting. determining whether someone has wallhacks through the tool would be difficult however and could determine false positives. We'll just have to leave the wallhack cleanup to VAC.

There is actually quite a fair amount of hackers on the PC version. Some even manage to get by me, force hosting the game and only making subtle changes in the DVARS such as regeneration, ammo count, and FOV changes. This can be especially annoying when it infects into other players games, changing their settings as well.

Reading Nalle's comments, it seems like he's really trying to prove something to himself.
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« Reply #17 on Apr 24, 2012, 7:37pm »


Apr 24, 2012, 6:44pm, Spitfire wrote:
There are a lot of methods of detection prevalent in the game such as:


being nearby teammates who are not running Assassin/Cold Blooded/Ghost

I have been killed an innumerable number of times because of an enemy UAV and a stubborn team-mate who insisted on following me in my escapades about the map. Since the enemy sees his "dot" they are prepared to engage and I am usually killed in collateral fire. (I play on a console [xbox] and people stand really close together).

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-Shooting, even a silenced weapon, will reveal your position to the enemy via the artificial "trail" included with hitscan bullets. This can make it obvious to an experienced player your location.

-Simple calculus (the subconscious kind all people preform when doing actions such as going through a yellow light while driving) can help a player determine the location of an enemy who recently entered a building. Determine the player's speed and direction to determine a location at a given time. Shoot through wall with FMJ for mixed results.

-not sure if other killstreaks do this, but harriers will point at enemies in a building even if the jet cannot shoot at them.

-affected scenery items, like broken glass or bullet hole decals, can raise situational awareness and perhaps pin down a more specific location if combined with map layout and flow knowledge

-falling, even with Dead silence/ninja pro makes a noise which will notify the more audio aware
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« Reply #18 on Apr 25, 2012, 3:59am »


Apr 24, 2012, 6:25pm, cmck wrote:
So wtf is this and what is he b!tching about? Why is he addressing us when he is angry at randoms he meets calling him a hacker?
I guess he's addressing whiny clowns like me. (There's my quote in OP, and he says: "Your statements, like "big crowd of hackers", of MW2, BO or MW3 on PC is a general exaggeration.".)

Apr 24, 2012, 1:26pm, Megaqwerty wrote:
Hackers are much more common than they should be in the PC version and that's a fact. I regularly (~1 per day) encounter hackers. I ask my team privately if they suspect the individual, wait for the game to finish, leave that lobby, and then report the player.
It sounds better than "In TDM, I meet a single hacker only just about every 20-50 games.". Let me say there is a hacker (not the lvl-hackers) in every 7-10 games. In our country, CoD MW3 costs only 20$, so buying a new game is very simple - that's why we have lots of hackers here.
Sorry for the retarded rhetorical question: what's the use of non-technical thread here with the rage?..
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To the OP: when I'm called hacker (even though my peni K/D is a little better (2.125) then yours (1.98), I'm called so rarely, not "every 2-4 games". Now you're exaggerating yourself, BTW) I see I'm acting so good that they don't know how to win me. Blaming me for hacking is the only way to explain why do they lose. If you don't like to be called so (that's maybe OK) and you create such a rage-topic (that's not OK already) then you are still a teenager in your 22-23, as you say. You'd better forget about CoD and other videogames at all (75 hours per 2 weeks…).
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Ban for CS 1.6 since maybe 5-6 years, silly.
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Why don't they say it to me?!.
BTW, I have problems with voice chat in every game (not only CoD), so I can't hear any rage. :( Ad can't communicate with my friends, too.
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« Reply #19 on Apr 25, 2012, 10:57am »


Apr 24, 2012, 1:23pm, mrjones wrote:
TL;DR
I'm a BLATANT hacker; here are the commands I use to block out the world and turn this into a single player game while I aimbot to victory.

That better?

EDIT: I also meant to say... If you're mad before a discussion begins, you're obviously guilty of something.


What? He said he hacked 9 years ago in some other game. He's overreacting now, but why are you assuming he's a hacker?
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« Reply #20 on Apr 25, 2012, 11:06am »


Apr 24, 2012, 1:50pm, mrjones wrote:
I recommend not taking people too seriously.


This I agree with. Everyone knows there are always idiots who cry "hack" at the wrong times, constantly. They suck, but don't worry about it. Take the compliment and move on.

To the OP: MW3 on PC is worse than any FPS game I've played in regards to hacks. I have no idea how well it detects them, but the frequency is definitely up, which leads me to believe the PC is getting less and less attention. Doesn't help that the concept of an admin has been lost. So my point is, there's a reason people are more quick to accuse these days. There really are more hackers.

That said, it's still not enough to ruin the game. It usually takes about 30 seconds to realize there's a hacker in the lobby. Just quit, take the loss, and hope you don't get shoved back into the same lobby. No biggie.
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« Reply #21 on Apr 25, 2012, 11:09am »


Apr 24, 2012, 7:37pm, A Unicorn with the Flag wrote:

Apr 24, 2012, 6:44pm, Spitfire wrote:
There are a lot of methods of detection prevalent in the game such as:


being nearby teammates who are not running Assassin/Cold Blooded/Ghost

I have been killed an innumerable number of times because of an enemy UAV and a stubborn team-mate who insisted on following me in my escapades about the map. Since the enemy sees his "dot" they are prepared to engage and I am usually killed in collateral fire. (I play on a console [xbox] and people stand really close together).


YES, this. My personal pet peeve.
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« Reply #22 on Apr 25, 2012, 12:44pm »


Apr 25, 2012, 3:59am, clown wrote:
In our country, CoD MW3 costs only 20$, so buying a new game is very simple

In my country, MW3 also costs $20...because I buy the Russian copy.
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« Reply #23 on Apr 25, 2012, 1:03pm »


Apr 25, 2012, 11:09am, j1000 wrote:

Apr 24, 2012, 7:37pm, A Unicorn with the Flag wrote:


being nearby teammates who are not running Assassin/Cold Blooded/Ghost

I have been killed an innumerable number of times because of an enemy UAV and a stubborn team-mate who insisted on following me in my escapades about the map. Since the enemy sees his "dot" they are prepared to engage and I am usually killed in collateral fire. (I play on a console [xbox] and people stand really close together).


YES, this. My personal pet peeve.


I'll second that.

I rarely play solo....but have been doing so lately, as I wanted to get in some time on the new maps (Sanctuary, etc..). When playing solo, one usually can't pick the game mode....the lobby changes quickly, and it seems TDM comes up a lot. Very annoying. Every time I run around, get into flanking position.....'BOOM'...a teammate will spawn near me and start his guns a blazing. My cover is gone.
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« Reply #24 on Apr 26, 2012, 10:07am »

Sorry, bros. This thread was a result of some personal steam and someone's exaggeration combined.
Nor am I such a good writer either, nor english, so I'll apologize for the unfined tone as well.

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