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losing control of predator missile
« Thread Started on May 5, 2012, 1:09pm »
OK so in MW2 and MW3, roughly 1/20 or 1/50 predator missiles I call in behave erratically. I'm pretty sure this happens to others, basically what happens is that they start going in a random direction or become irresponsive. It nearly always results in a wasted predator missile, and i wanna know what causes this. I haven't been able to notice a pattern in the circumstances that cause this.
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Re: losing control of predator missile
« Reply #1 on May 5, 2012, 1:13pm »
Starting with a sharp turn and then boosting I think
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Re: losing control of predator missile
« Reply #2 on May 5, 2012, 3:08pm »
It's nice to know I'm not the only one this happens to
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Re: losing control of predator missile
« Reply #3 on May 5, 2012, 6:37pm »
This never happened to me before. My reapers are what gets glitched for me. Does anyone else get stuck in ads with the reaper?
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Re: losing control of predator missile
« Reply #4 on May 5, 2012, 7:39pm »

May 5, 2012, 6:37pm, cmck wrote:
This never happened to me before. My reapers are what gets glitched for me. Does anyone else get stuck in ads with the reaper?


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Re: losing control of predator missile
« Reply #5 on May 5, 2012, 8:07pm »
Is there a reason for it?
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Re: losing control of predator missile
« Reply #6 on May 5, 2012, 8:33pm »
weird, I have never noticed this.
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Re: losing control of predator missile
« Reply #7 on May 6, 2012, 6:30am »
I've read somewhere (a long time ago) that it's caused by calling in the predator while moving, like sprinting to somewhere and during the sprint you press the button to take out the laptop. I tried to test this in-game in MW2 but I didn't notice any difference so I think that argument was false.

Also, in my experience, the predator in MW3 is a lot harder to control than in MW2. I noticed this right from the beginning when I started playing MW3. Is it just my imagination or is it really true?
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Re: losing control of predator missile
« Reply #8 on May 6, 2012, 8:06am »
Yes, I noticed that, too. I think you lose control when using the boost too early.
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Re: losing control of predator missile
« Reply #9 on May 6, 2012, 9:09am »
Actually the boosting thing makes sense. A lot of the time this happens is when I call it in and see 3 people and boost immediately to get the triple kill. ironically this just causes the aformentioned problem, resulting in no kills.
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Re: losing control of predator missile
« Reply #10 on May 6, 2012, 3:27pm »
I remember hearing the theory that if your character model is up against an obstacle, the predator will go uncontrollable. Seemed to match with what I experienced as I have had them go uncontrollable without boosting.
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Re: losing control of predator missile
« Reply #11 on May 6, 2012, 6:46pm »

May 6, 2012, 3:27pm, palladium wrote:
I remember hearing the theory that if your character model is up against an obstacle, the predator will go uncontrollable. Seemed to match with what I experienced as I have had them go uncontrollable without boosting.


This is what I've heard. Has to do with being prone and being blocked from moving by an object, or something. Not sure if it's accurate but it seems like it.
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Re: losing control of predator missile
« Reply #12 on May 6, 2012, 7:27pm »
I'm having problems with the super low sensitivity on PC.
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Re: losing control of predator missile
« Reply #13 on May 6, 2012, 8:39pm »
Nice that this topic was brought up. I find it extrmely frustrating too. Its like the predator doesn't go where i'm pointing the camera at.
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Re: losing control of predator missile
« Reply #14 on May 6, 2012, 10:51pm »
The Devs also definitely know about it, as multiple people have told them. I assume that it is something not easily fixed without reworking the code for controlling the predator missile entirely, so they aren't going to do anything about it.

I haven't experienced the problem since I learned to not lie prone while touching stuff as I call in a pred. Stupid that I even need to think about it, but on the whole not a major inconvenience.
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Re: losing control of predator missile
« Reply #15 on May 6, 2012, 11:02pm »
I had thought it was due to coming within proximity of a scrambler. I never noticed the issue in MW2.
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Re: losing control of predator missile
« Reply #16 on May 7, 2012, 12:42am »
I figured I didn't need to start a new thread for this but how do I change the camera setting in an ac130 on pc? not the weapon but the thermal.
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Re: losing control of predator missile
« Reply #17 on May 7, 2012, 4:03am »

May 6, 2012, 7:27pm, Usagi wrote:
I'm having problems with the super low sensitivity on PC.
Yeah, me too.
I don't play a lot with Assault SP (I bet I played ~50 games from 2000), but I've also noticed that Predator is something harder to contol. It's good, cause Pred. was OP in MW2, and now when there's a Pointstreak system gaining a Pred is match easier. (Well, just saying it cause of playing without BE.)
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Re: losing control of predator missile
« Reply #18 on May 7, 2012, 2:20pm »
predator was op in mw2? how? bigger radius? faster? no way to stop it?
im asking because i never played mw2, and it's pretty good even in mw3.
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Re: losing control of predator missile
« Reply #19 on May 7, 2012, 2:38pm »
There was no way to stop it. And most people didn't use cold blooded due to stopping power. If you were outside you were dead if it chose you. And it could have a bigger blast with DC pro.
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Re: losing control of predator missile
« Reply #20 on May 7, 2012, 2:52pm »
Llednik,

Hit the use key (f by default) to change to thermal
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Re: losing control of predator missile
« Reply #21 on May 7, 2012, 10:48pm »
Laying prone against an object makes sense... I'll try inching away from walls and stuff from now on.

I always thought it was just for a bit of realism, the wind or imperfections of the on-board computer systems would lead it astray and you had to do your best to keep it on course.
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« Reply #22 on May 8, 2012, 12:23am »
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« Reply #23 on May 8, 2012, 7:36am »
The Pred wasn't OP in MW2, lol. Sure it was deadly, but it's a five killstreak that typically kills one person. Sometimes two. Sometimes none. Occasionally gets a trip or a multi. MW3, it's the same deal. You don't have DC, but Blast Shield won't save you from a Pred if it chooses you unless the Pred isn't aimed right at you. Oh, and there's the Trophy System, which is still risky and requires a modicum of foresight.

Just glancing at the other stuff available to the player in MW2 and MW3, I can't see how the Pred could ever be considered OP, tbh.
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Re: losing control of predator missile
« Reply #24 on May 8, 2012, 7:46am »
In MW3 it isn't, but I could see an argument for MW2. Even if it isn't all that impressive in itself harrier is only two kills away from it. Harrier was a little too good.
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« Reply #25 on May 8, 2012, 8:00am »
If the main argument against the Pred is the easy chain potential to another killstreak that's a little too good, the issue is obv that the latter is the problem, not the Pred.

Five killstreak that typically kills one person is def not OP compared to just about any of the other killstreaks in the game.
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Re: losing control of predator missile
« Reply #26 on May 8, 2012, 8:08am »

May 5, 2012, 1:09pm, mw2baller wrote:

I'm pretty sure this happens to others, basically what happens is that they start going in a random direction or become irresponsive. It nearly always results in a wasted predator missile, and i wanna know what causes this. I haven't been able to notice a pattern in the circumstances that cause this.


Well, Stealth Bombers, friendly or enemy, made me lose control over Pred /tested/.
Airstrikes probably can do that as well /not tested/
Grenades thrown at you while you launch Pred might have similar effect./I suppose but it is hard to confirm: after closing the laptop the ‘effect’ is gone/
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« Reply #27 on May 8, 2012, 8:40am »
I'm not saying that the main argument is the chain it has. I'm saying that if you dismiss all the arguments against the pred itself you still can't really refute the chain being op.

If you want an actual argument against it, it was unblockable in MW2 and more common in MW2 due to lack of support and specialist and emp. DC amplified it. Cold blooded was rarely used in comparison to SP or DC. The only way to ensure you won't die is to stay in buildings the majority of the time. Then after all this against the pred itself you have to factor in the obvious chain to harrier. I'm not saying it should have been changed or that I truly believe its overpowered, I'm just saying the claim could be made and defended.
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« Reply #28 on May 8, 2012, 8:52am »
I'm not going to bother seriously refuting such claims if you're not going to actually take a position, but seriously, Pred is OP because Cold-Blooded wasn't used as much as SP? Might as well claim all KS are OP. Might as well say the MW3 Pred is OP because BS/Trophy aren't used as much as Assassin/Portable Radar or whatever. Fact is Cold-Blooded was readily available, perfectly viable, and if you choose not to use it you are exposing yourself to KS such as the Pred. That was how it was intended to work.

Don't know how to say this any other way but again, if the chain potential to a killstreak that's a "little too good" is a problem, the real issue is quite obviously the Harrier, not the Pred. It's not like the Pred is any less chainable without the Harrier; your chain is just overall weaker without the Harrier.

Again... 1-2 kills for a 5 KS which can be easily avoided by running one perk, good luck claiming that's OP when I can literally win the game with a seven killstreak in a bad (which most are) lobby.
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Re: losing control of predator missile
« Reply #29 on May 8, 2012, 9:09am »
I see you are having trouble attacking my position if you are only going after Cold blooded. If it makes you feel better I'll say for the duration of this discussion I'll consider pred as op. I'm not sure why you need me to believe what I say to participate in a mental exercise.

The reason why I can say Cold blooded is a problem in MW2 and not Blind eye use in MW3 is because Stopping power was op and that caused cold blooded to never be used. Just because you say I can put on cold blooded doesn't mean that I truly can and not feel the huge cost in comparison to not having SP. Blind eye doesn't run into that problem. Pred vs. all other killstreaks is also not true either. All the air support could be shot down with a stinger while preds were a sure thing.

Trophy can be used in place of any equipment, but there is no super equipment that trumps all the others so completely that your comparison to cold blooded selectability isn't accurate.BS on the other hand is just too underpowered to do anything so it wouldn't help in the first place. BS isn't a counter so it isn't a good comparison.
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