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« Thread Started on Jul 22, 2012, 10:49am »

(Yeah, I know, it's OHK for Stingers if there's no more flares. ^^)

I was asking myself about the health of killstreaks. Helicopters, UAVs, etc. I did some testing with the MG36 and I got this:
UAV: 1,000
CUAV: 1,000
IMS: 320 (maybe 300?)
Hind/Cobra: 2,000
AH-6: 2,000
Reaper: 2,000
Assault Drone: 1,000
Recon Drone: 280
Advanced UAV: 2,000
Turrets: 1,000
Care Package Helicopter: 400 (maybe more, maybe less)
Ballistic Vests on the ground: 320 (maybe 300?)

The only two I couldn't get a real number was the Osprey and the Pave Low. The Pave Low proven to be really resistant, I used like 340 bullets of MG36 (with Blind Eye Pro!) to destroy a Pave Low, which corresponds to a whopping 21,760 health points.

For the Osprey, I think it's around 3,000-3,200, but I can't find a consistent number. Even once I got around 6,000, dunno why.

Also it seems that the Blind Eye Pro 1.6x multiplier isn't really the case. I use 50 bullets to take down an helicopter with my MG36, and I used 41 (instead of 32) with Blind Eye Pro. So it's a bit awkward.

So I'd love to see if some people can test that more in detail. ^^
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« Reply #1 on Jul 22, 2012, 11:14am »


Jul 22, 2012, 10:49am, linkinito wrote:
I used like 340 bullets of MG36 (with Blind Eye Pro!) to destroy a Pave Low, which corresponds to a whopping 21,760 health points.
I know the L86 deals 8 more damage than the MG36, but when I use the L86 & Blind Eye pro, I'm able to shoot down a Pavelow in ~55 bullets. And an Ospray Gunner in ~75. The L86 with Blind Eye has totally changed how I approach supporting my team, I no longer waste my time using missles (except against the AC-130). I love being the team's AA-whore ;D
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« Reply #2 on Jul 22, 2012, 11:18am »

L86 deals 2 less damage than the MG36
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« Reply #3 on Jul 22, 2012, 11:21am »


Jul 22, 2012, 11:14am, acidsnow wrote:

Jul 22, 2012, 10:49am, linkinito wrote:
I used like 340 bullets of MG36 (with Blind Eye Pro!) to destroy a Pave Low, which corresponds to a whopping 21,760 health points.
I know the L86 deals 8 more damage than the MG36, but when I use the L86 & Blind Eye pro, I'm able to shoot down a Pavelow in ~55 bullets. And an Ospray Gunner in ~75. The L86 with Blind Eye has totally changed how I approach supporting my team, I no longer waste my time using missles (except against the AC-130). I love being the team's AA-whore ;D

Uhhhh... The MG36 has 40 damage, and the L86 LSW has 38.

I obviously know that LMG + Blind Eye Pro is beastly against air killstreaks, but I'd love to know how they can resist against guns.
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« Reply #4 on Jul 22, 2012, 11:23am »

If I were you, I'd use RSASS + Silencer + Ext. Mags. 50 damage can be better to calculate those 300 values. And even though it is pretty hard to destroy them Pave Lols, it takes less than a mag here. Don't know what wrong with your tests.
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« Reply #5 on Jul 22, 2012, 11:27am »


Jul 22, 2012, 11:18am, mmacola wrote:
L86 deals 2 less damage than the MG36
Oh yeah, my bad, for some reason I was mixing up the guns, I never use the MG36.
But anyway... When using Blind Eye & the L86, it hardly takes any bullets to destroy Air Support, yet the linkinito's quoted # of bullets seemed greater than mine; are you not playing on the Xbox?
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« Reply #6 on Jul 22, 2012, 11:28am »


Jul 22, 2012, 11:23am, mmacola wrote:
If I were you, I'd use RSASS + Silencer + Ext. Mags. 50 damage can be better to calculate those 300 values. And even though it is pretty hard to destroy them Pave Lols, it takes less than a mag here. Don't know what wrong with your tests.

I did it in split-screen. Going to try anyway. I'm playing on PS3.

By the way, all these numbers I found were with the MG36 WITHOUT Blind Eye Pro. Didn't made much tests with Blind Eye Pro.
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« Reply #7 on Jul 22, 2012, 11:51am »

From raw files:

Airdrop: 500
Autosentry: 1000
Helicopter: 2000
Pave Low: 4000 and damage * 0.3
Ballistic Vests: 300
Escort Airdrop: 4000
IMS: 300
Juggernaut: 100 and damage * 0.08
Reaper: 1500
Assault Drone: 1000
Remote Turret: 1000
Recon Drone: 250
UAV: 1000
Advanced UAV: 2000
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« Reply #8 on Jul 22, 2012, 12:01pm »

Does the escort airdrop also apply to the Osprey Gunner?
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« Reply #9 on Jul 22, 2012, 12:04pm »

Yes.
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« Reply #10 on Jul 22, 2012, 12:11pm »

Seems strange that someone would take more bullets to kill the Osprey Gunner than the Pavelow. According to my calculations, an Osprey Gunner should go down in ~65 Blind Eye L86 shots while the pavelow needs ~220. None of your results seem particularly consistent. Advise retesting (I don't have anything unlocked in splitscreen).
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« Reply #11 on Jul 22, 2012, 12:15pm »

Damage is rounded down so it would take a bit more.
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« Reply #12 on Jul 22, 2012, 12:31pm »

Isn't there armor?
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« Reply #13 on Jul 22, 2012, 12:32pm »

The round down means you need 67 and 223 shots respectively, so not exactly a significant difference.
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« Reply #14 on Jul 22, 2012, 1:01pm »


Jul 22, 2012, 12:31pm, mmacola wrote:
Isn't there armor?


Assuming it's the same mechanic as MW1/2, yes. From the COD4 page:

The helicopter absorbs bullet damage, dropping all damage to 30%.
After losing 500 points of its total 1100 health, the helicopter is "weakened" and bullets deliver full damage against it.

MW2 changed it so there isn't any armor at all, just all damage is reduced:

Both Helicopters have 1500 health, Chopper Gunner has one flare countermeasure.
The Pave Low has one flare and 3000 health.
Unlike the helicopter in COD4, these three will decrease bullet damage to 0.3x all the time.

It's most likely the MW2 version.
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« Reply #15 on Jul 23, 2012, 11:27pm »

Marvel, do you have the numbers for the AH-6??
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« Reply #16 on Jul 24, 2012, 6:38am »


Jul 23, 2012, 11:27pm, PassiveVengance wrote:
Marvel, do you have the numbers for the AH-6??

I'm fairly confident that the AH-6 has the same health as the Hind/Cobra, which is 2,000.
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« Reply #17 on Jul 24, 2012, 9:37am »

Thanks, really didn't want to have to bust out the EMP grenades :P
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« Reply #18 on Jul 24, 2012, 9:57am »

Perhaps there is no armor? It is shot down so quickly (no blind eye)
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« Reply #19 on Jul 24, 2012, 10:10am »

Only the Pave Low has armor (multiplies damage by 0.3).
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