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Post by MoopusMaximus on Aug 1, 2012 15:43:32 GMT -5
I'm doing testing as we speak.
Will post results soon. Please discuss them here, so we'll have a clear place to have them.
Results:
PM-9: Significant decrease in ViewKick and GunKick.
MP5: 888RPM.
M16: 2-4, 880RPM
AK-47: Very significant decrease in GunKick. Accurate.
UMP45: 3-5. (49-20 Damage)
FAD: Flat 4-4 hits.
Patch notes (from the official forums):
I don't think the playlist update has hit us yet, because the patch notes contradict my results. Waiting... for now.
This update was probably sent out very recently, so it hasn't hit anywhere near the East Coast (me).
Sources:
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Post by Morshu on Aug 1, 2012 15:47:35 GMT -5
I doubt its out right now, for ps3 at least. The UMP is still a 6 hit kill and has the same range. No noticeable difference on the other guns either.
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Post by bmac39 on Aug 1, 2012 15:52:52 GMT -5
I'm guessing recoil decrease for M16, gunkick decrease for AK, recoil decrease for UMP, and some SMG traits for the FAD.
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Post by mmacola on Aug 1, 2012 16:01:02 GMT -5
Damage/RoF is still the same for M16 on PS3. If they only tweaked the recoil, I hate'em so much.
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Post by 3nder on Aug 1, 2012 16:10:45 GMT -5
I don't like ust reducing recoil. Then everything is an MP7 clone.
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Post by bmac39 on Aug 1, 2012 16:11:36 GMT -5
I don't like ust reducing recoil. Then everything is an MP7 clone. *ACR clone. |
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Post by Amirror on Aug 1, 2012 16:13:25 GMT -5
Come on, why do they ONLY tweak recoil? Recoil was ONLY a problem with the PM-9, why for the other weapons too? Why don't they make different adjustments?
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Post by 3nder on Aug 1, 2012 16:18:08 GMT -5
I was speaking more to the purely vertical nature that they default to.
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Post by mmacola on Aug 1, 2012 16:22:26 GMT -5
I hope this is all placebo. I really don't want these to be true... but better than nothing, I guess ._.
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Post by Amirror on Aug 1, 2012 16:30:21 GMT -5
SMGs now makes shotguns look even worse. Now snipers will get sniped by SMGs.
Hmmm, maybe not.
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Post by cmck on Aug 1, 2012 16:33:40 GMT -5
Given that there are no range or damage changes this might all be a placebo. When I was testing the M16 at long range I got a three bullet kill, but since I couldn't replicate it I decided that it must be a headshot. Placebos are tricky. Also if there was a rof increase the recoils should look higher so thats out the window.
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Post by Amirror on Aug 1, 2012 16:35:14 GMT -5
Confirmed on Patch Notes!!!
8/1/2012
Weapon rebalance for assault rifles & SMG's:
FAD - increased damage and range
M16A4 - increased damage and fire rate
AK47 - reduced kick
UMP45 - increased damage
MP5 - increased fire rate
PM9 - reduced kick
This should be true.
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Post by mmacola on Aug 1, 2012 16:37:41 GMT -5
Waiting to hit PS3. BTW, god forgive us if they mess up the FAD. Make that thing a 3hk and you break the game.
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Post by 3nder on Aug 1, 2012 16:40:57 GMT -5
if its a pure point blank buff to 3, i think it'll be cool. like 150 - 300u, however its more likely they buffed it to 4HK at range.
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Post by Amirror on Aug 1, 2012 16:41:08 GMT -5
Waiting to hit PS3. BTW, god forgive us if they mess up the FAD. Make that thing a 3hk and you break the game. I thought the FAD was already balanced, but meh, they better not have made it OP. Going to get on Xbox to check soon.. |
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Post by MoopusMaximus on Aug 1, 2012 16:42:12 GMT -5
It definitely hasn't hit yet, probably because I'm on east coast. I'm going to re-test at 8.
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Post by Amirror on Aug 1, 2012 16:42:26 GMT -5
if its a pure point blank buff to 3, i think it'll be cool. like 150 - 300u, however its more likely they buffed it to 4HK at range. That would make it a devastating shotgun, we don't want that... |
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Post by MoopusMaximus on Aug 1, 2012 16:42:56 GMT -5
If they made the FAD 3-4 hits, dear god...
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Post by Amirror on Aug 1, 2012 16:44:41 GMT -5
It definitely hasn't hit yet, probably because I'm on east coast. I'm going to re-test at 8. Same. (I will keep looking for info in the forums.) Wonder how the weapons will perform now. |
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Post by Morshu on Aug 1, 2012 16:45:28 GMT -5
If they made the FAD 3-4 hits, dear god... Hopfully they just made it a 3 hit kill at point blank or increased the 4 hit kill range. |
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Post by Amirror on Aug 1, 2012 16:45:44 GMT -5
If they made the FAD 3-4 hits, dear god... Man, they better not have made a new Famas clone. |
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Post by MoopusMaximus on Aug 1, 2012 16:46:19 GMT -5
It definitely hasn't hit yet, probably because I'm on east coast. I'm going to re-test at 8. Same. (I will keep looking for info in the forums.) Wonder how the weapons will perform now. These changes all look pretty good, except the FAD. I'm concerned. If it has 3-4 hits, it'll be the new super AR. |
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Post by Amirror on Aug 1, 2012 16:46:39 GMT -5
If they made the FAD 3-4 hits, dear god... Hopfully they just made it a 3 hit kill at point blank and increased the 4 hit kill range. That makes it too strong at close range, and could beat shotguns. |
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Post by cmck on Aug 1, 2012 16:47:31 GMT -5
What about if they just make the fad a 4hk at all ranges?(They couldn't have done that though if they also buffed range, but we deal with what ifs a lot here.)
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Post by Amirror on Aug 1, 2012 16:48:34 GMT -5
Same. (I will keep looking for info in the forums.) Wonder how the weapons will perform now. These changes all look pretty good, except the FAD. I'm concerned. If it has 3-4 hits, it'll be the new super AR. I'm worried about the FAD the most too. The others are probably fine though. I hope they only increased damage at range/effective range. |
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Post by Disgruntled Jigglypuff on Aug 1, 2012 16:49:36 GMT -5
What about if they just make the fad a 4hk at all ranges?(They couldn't have done that though if they also buffed range, but we deal with what ifs a lot here.) Maybe they made it 33-25? |
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Post by Morshu on Aug 1, 2012 16:50:19 GMT -5
ACR but with even less recoil and 1000 RPM!
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Post by Morshu on Aug 1, 2012 16:50:59 GMT -5
What about if they just make the fad a 4hk at all ranges?(They couldn't have done that though if they also buffed range, but we deal with what ifs a lot here.) Maybe they made it 33-25? That would be balanced. |
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Post by cmck on Aug 1, 2012 16:53:02 GMT -5
True. But I consider that the same damage due to both of those numbers being the same bullets to kill.
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Post by Disgruntled Jigglypuff on Aug 1, 2012 16:54:52 GMT -5
True. But I consider that the same damage due to both of those numbers being the same bullets to kill. But guise!, Touch Football mode! Hmm... would 34-20 damage be all that unbalanced? |
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