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PP-19 and P-90
« Thread Started on Dec 17, 2011, 6:08pm »

I noticed that Den and Symthic's charts have different damage values for the PP-19 and P-90. Which is the correct chart? I usually take whatever Den puts up as truth, but I haven't been able to test for myself.

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Re: PP-19 and P-90
« Reply #1 on Dec 17, 2011, 6:15pm »

I haven't updated everything on the chart from the latest patch. Symthic's is probably up to date.

The P-90's 5.7x28mm is up to 20-10 damage.

...But wait. His says the PP-19 does 16.7 - 9.1? Where's that from? I don't see that.

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Re: PP-19 and P-90
« Reply #2 on Dec 18, 2011, 12:16am »

Alright, I appreciate the honesty pal.

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Re: PP-19 and P-90
« Reply #3 on Dec 18, 2011, 4:04am »

Symthic had damage listed as 25-10 before too, but it was changed after some guy on his board mentioned it.
Without having a clue how the files are organized; did you look at 9x19mm round the PP2000 uses? Because the PP-19 is listed as using the 9x18 makarov round; maybe there's a different file for that one?

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Re: PP-19 and P-90
« Reply #4 on Dec 18, 2011, 5:18am »

Dec 18, 2011, 4:04am, tiesieman wrote:

The PP-19 reads as having a 9x19. Even though there is a 9x18 Makarov projectile, I don't see anything that uses that WeaponClass.

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Re: PP-19 and P-90
« Reply #5 on Dec 18, 2011, 5:49am »

Then maybe the easiest way is to just test it in-game. I would,but kinda busy right now..

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Re: PP-19 and P-90
« Reply #6 on Dec 18, 2011, 6:36am »

http://denkirson.proboards.com/index.cgi....48&page=1#54010

and

http://denkirson.proboards.com/index.cgi....48&page=2#58506

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Re: PP-19 and P-90
« Reply #7 on Dec 19, 2011, 11:41am »

While we're on the subject of differences between Den and Symthic's charts, I notice that Den's chart lists the G36C as having equalized recoil values (0.3 left/0.3 right/0.3 vertical). However. Symthic's chart shows uneven recoil values (0.5 left/0.3 right/0.3 vertical). Does anyone know which of these are true?

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Re: PP-19 and P-90
« Reply #8 on Jan 23, 2012, 11:38am »

so, is there any news about the truth behind the PP-19? 9.1 - 16.7, or 10-25?

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Re: PP-19 and P-90
« Reply #9 on Jan 25, 2012, 4:51am »

I think it has the lowest damage, but still gotta test it in-game

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Re: PP-19 and P-90
« Reply #10 on Jan 25, 2012, 9:43am »

I did a quick test about that a few weeks ago in-game the PP-19 did do ~9 damage at range (I don't remember the exact value but it was less than 10 and thus less than the P90, which was all I was testing).

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Re: PP-19 and P-90
« Reply #11 on Jan 25, 2012, 2:08pm »

So then we can all agree that the PP-19 pretty much sucks in the face of the P90. Too bad, thing looks pretty awesome (like most russian weapons in this game)

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Re: PP-19 and P-90
« Reply #12 on Feb 1, 2012, 8:37am »

It is pretty great if you're going for suppression assists. The huge wall of weak bullets means if you run with teammates you should see the +50s popping up like crazy.

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Re: PP-19 and P-90
« Reply #13 on Feb 1, 2012, 9:00am »

I always liked the PP-19 in BF2, so I'd probably just use it regardless of its actual quality.

Does it still have a firing sound as cool as it did in BF2?

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Re: PP-19 and P-90
« Reply #14 on Feb 19, 2012, 2:15am »

Feb 1, 2012, 9:00am, Keralastic wrote:

I always liked the PP-19 in BF2, so I'd probably just use it regardless of its actual quality.

Does it still have a firing sound as cool as it did in BF2?

Wow, the pp-19 was straight up terrible in BF2, along with the MP5 and type 85. The P90 was slightly less lame, but everyone used the DAO-12, since the smgs were only effective to about 10m anyways.

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Re: PP-19 and P-90
« Reply #15 on Feb 19, 2012, 2:30pm »

Feb 19, 2012, 2:15am, yhzh wrote:

Wow, the pp-19 was straight up terrible in BF2, along with the MP5 and type 85. The P90 was slightly less lame, but everyone used the DAO-12, since the smgs were only effective to about 10m anyways.

Well, I said I liked it, I didn't say it was any good. (Hence, "use it regardless of quality.")

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Re: PP-19 and P-90
« Reply #16 on Feb 19, 2012, 7:40pm »

Yeah I wasn't knocking on you.
It was the best default anti tank gun, although I found the gun sounds from BF2 lacking in general...
Only reason to play anti tank was the Eryx and sraw, doo-dooty as they were.

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