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Post by MoopusMaximus on Jul 23, 2012 10:05:41 GMT -5
This gun with Rapid Fire can shoot at a max RPM of 681. That's faster than a CM901 can shoot. With a macro/modified controller, this thing is a grossly overpowered weapon.
I hate getting kill by this thing more than the PP90.
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Post by Lexapro on Jul 23, 2012 10:17:09 GMT -5
Fork OP, nerf pls.
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Post by mmacola on Jul 23, 2012 10:27:20 GMT -5
No it's balanced because you can't eat cereal or jello with a fork OP
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Post by Tyzerra on Jul 23, 2012 10:40:23 GMT -5
MK14 is nowhere near overpowered. Silly to make a thread about it. PS. How can you say a spork isn't OP?! They're freaking ridiculous! I hear the TTS (time to stab/scoop) with one of those things is like 28% faster than a regular spoon or fork. Freaking stupid if you ask me
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Post by Marvel4 on Jul 23, 2012 11:24:50 GMT -5
It has high recoil, high hipspread and a capacity of only 20. It's not OP, even as a fully automatic weapon.
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Post by danoski666 on Jul 23, 2012 11:43:45 GMT -5
It has high recoil, high hipspread and a capacity of only 20. It's not OP, even as a fully automatic weapon. I though you were talking about the Spork. High recoil? Didn't really notice it, but it depends on what you consider high recoil. 2HK in the chest, 1HS, 681 RPM. Nah, it's perfectly balanced fully auto. Not any more unbalanced then the Type 95 at least.
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Post by bobo on Jul 23, 2012 11:54:28 GMT -5
My roommate's son got a rapid fire controller. I tried it for the FAL in MW2 the other day. It was ridiculous. I got into a lobby of Skill Cannonrs and I didn't feel like I was cheating Of course MW2 is such a cheap whore that maybe they should have sold moded controllers with the game.
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Post by Tyzerra on Jul 23, 2012 11:57:24 GMT -5
Of course MW2 is such a cheap whore that maybe they should have sold moded controllers with the game. LMAO, that got me chuckling for a few minutes
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Post by wwaa on Jul 23, 2012 12:08:31 GMT -5
TL;DR: Ext Magz+Silencer, ~500 rpm. This gun with Rapid Fire can shoot at a max RPM of 681. That's faster than a CM901 can shoot. With a macro/modified controller, this thing is a grossly overpowered weapon. 1) If you want to use RF on MK14 and fire that fast you a) run out of ammo fast: 20-round mag, b) you are very inaccurate so c) you need Kick. Kick+RF and Scavenger is the only option. No room to have a silencer..... [maybe Ext. Magz + RF and 2-round burst macro with decent delays might work, but then your practical ROF drops to 500 rpm or less...] 2) The best ROF for MK14 is sth like 480-520 rpm and you do not need Kick, centerspeed works, and no RF. Have Ext. Magz + Silencer and voila. Pure beast. 3) 75 dmg at 500 rpm "on target" is a huge damage dealt, but it is arr 200 rpm less than you suggest and CM901 is 605 rpm on PC. 4) MK14 + Ext Magz + Silencer, full auto at 500 rpm is the most powerfull gun in MW3 if you can aim. 5) ver. [1.5.387] MK14 + RF, Kick vs No proficiency: 2+2 magz fired full auto at 666 rpm: (recoil is UP, 1st shots the lowest):
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Post by Usagi on Jul 23, 2012 13:33:04 GMT -5
I don't notice any recoil at all when I use it. I don't see too many people use it because of it being semi-auto. Balancing a gun based on how powerful it is when cheats are applied is fucking stupid, seriously guys.
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Post by UrbaneVirtuoso on Jul 23, 2012 15:39:03 GMT -5
Thought I've seen it all.
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Post by cmck on Jul 23, 2012 16:15:12 GMT -5
Mk14 never has recoil for me, but I don't have a modded controller. Its mag is small, its recoil is apparently high if you shoot it fast, and without a mod you aren't going to be tracking people easily with it while spamming that trigger. Totally balanced.
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Post by wwaa on Jul 23, 2012 18:07:04 GMT -5
Yes, even at 631 rpm [0.095 sec between shots] the first 2 shots from MK14 are very accurate. Almost a laser. Enough to kill.
> anyway, the m14 is overpowered
Only if you fire at 500+ rpm. Hard to spot online, I saw it 2-4 times in 9 months.
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Post by Morshu on Jul 23, 2012 18:30:26 GMT -5
Anyone who says the MK14 has high recoil has not used it enough. It isn't the BLOPs M14, which sucked. The MK14 gets dragunov moblility, RSASS capacity, better recoil then both, OHKs with sliencer headshots, faster aiming then both, and no annoying scope. The only downside to the MK14 compared to the SVD and RSASS is its long range damage (lol) and its lower RoF, which with rapid fire is about as high as you should be able to shoot and the SVD and RSASS can't utilize that RoF anyway.
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Post by mmacola on Jul 23, 2012 18:35:17 GMT -5
Anyone who says the MK14 has high recoil has not used it enough. It isn't the BLOPs M14, which sucked. Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? Get a grip on yourself (pun intended)
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Post by Morshu on Jul 23, 2012 18:38:01 GMT -5
Always used grip when I used it and yes it still sucked.
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Post by mmacola on Jul 23, 2012 18:42:20 GMT -5
Always used grip when I used it and yes it still sucked. You were using it wrong then. I freaking loved that gun. Hold a position (not tactical loitering) like a corridor or something and let the enemy come. Bunch of Double+Triple kills.
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Post by Morshu on Jul 23, 2012 18:47:31 GMT -5
G11 laughs all over the M14.
Basically the M14 shooting 3 bullets merged into one with no recoil.
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Post by UrbaneVirtuoso on Jul 23, 2012 18:47:40 GMT -5
The BO M14 was lovely indeed -- I even used it without a Grip and demolished.
*POP POP* *POP POP* POP POP* *POP POP*
Nothing more to getting an easy Blackbird on Domination Ground War. Plus, the G11 lacks the M203 to weed things out. :3
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Post by blues27xx on Jul 23, 2012 18:49:49 GMT -5
The headshot multiplier just needs reduced. There's no way to make GOOD semi auto guns that can't be abused by modded controllers.
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Post by Tyzerra on Jul 23, 2012 18:51:25 GMT -5
Black Ops M14 with Red Dot + Grip was where it was at. That was the best way of makng the most of Warlord IMO You'd get precision targeting, lower recoil, extra frags, extra stuns - it was pure brilliance on maps like Array, Jungle and Stadium
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Post by Morshu on Jul 23, 2012 18:59:33 GMT -5
. Plus, the G11 lacks the M203 to weed things out. :3 Then that means NO grip. And your got to be kidding me to say that the none grip M14 was good. Fun to use but not good. The G11 needs no grip, no red dot (perfect irons) and gets a free emag. Plus it shoots out merged bullets. Loved the G11. Beats the Famas any day.
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Post by UrbaneVirtuoso on Jul 23, 2012 19:36:10 GMT -5
Well, it's not like I spray away at long range so the lack of Grip is barely noticeable in my experience -- everything dies just the same. You should probably ease up on that trigger finger.
With a Pro Pipe, the M14 lends to my preference since there's more utility overall. The only real semi-auto I dislike is the BO FAL, no thanks to horizontal recoil. Fortunately, the M14 has none of that either way.
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Post by asasa on Jul 23, 2012 21:29:07 GMT -5
M14 in BO, with Grip, was fair. Still a little worse than the B+ Class full autos, like the Com-Field-47.
It has a crapton of muzzle flash which, along with its recoil and lack of ammo, really hurt it. Of course that RDS + Grip combo is superb, but then you are stuck with warlord.
@urbane: I could never figure out which I liked more. The FAL is definitely easier to use, but I cant say that the M14 is necessarily better for skilled players -- due to its irons/muzzle flash.
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Post by Marvel4 on Jul 23, 2012 21:31:32 GMT -5
I want a fully automatic M14. >.<
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Post by asasa on Jul 23, 2012 21:33:13 GMT -5
Me too. Or something very similar. Need more weapons with predictable recoil. The SCAR in MW3 is not predictable at all, just as a side note.
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Post by Morshu on Jul 23, 2012 22:11:18 GMT -5
I want a fully automatic M14. >.< Just get a modded controller or hack.
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Post by banana on Jul 24, 2012 1:24:09 GMT -5
Me too. Or something very similar. Need more weapons with predictable recoil. The SCAR in MW3 is not predictable at all, just as a side note. I thought it went up and to the right or is it like the g36c where it goes in one direction but is entirely random on how much it kicks?
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Post by Broadband on Jul 24, 2012 5:45:33 GMT -5
It was only OP when the Damage glitch still worked.
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Post by aidsaidsaids on Jul 24, 2012 12:56:14 GMT -5
It was only OP when the Damage glitch still worked. This. Thread over.
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