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Post by cashmoves on Jan 14, 2013 11:01:17 GMT -5
well, im not there yet, but im getting there... over the past week or so i have obtained gold on the five seven and the tac. ive also got 100 headshots on the B23. my goal for this thread is to update my progress with my experience and tips to help others. obviously, if any bros have already completed all these challenges and have advice, PLEASE post it. im scared to death of the executioner challenges, im gonna save those for last...
anyway, i now have around 1500 kills with the tac and 1300 with the five seven. both are gold as i said.
my thoughts - overall setup - extended mags and silencer with tac. silencer and whatever else with five seven. perks - lightweight, fast hands (necessary to use concussions), tactician (to avoid all the nastiness out there waiting for you), and when playing TDM, i like awareness. DO NOT USE AWARENESS in FFA, its gimped. i promise you.
headshot challenge - i think that the reflex sight is helpful here, but thats really just personal preference. i think the most important thing is to play FFA and use quick hands and two or three concussions. concuss people, and aim for the head. i couldnt come up with any easier way to do it. i averaged around 10-15% headshots, meaning 3-4 headshots on average in a FFA match. i found the five seven and tac were about equal here.
double kills - again, i think your best bet is in FFA. guys will all rush to the sound of gunfire, people are always running around like chickens with their heads cut off. the more lethal you are as a player, the quicker these will come. not sure if i can give much additional strategy here. they were easier with the five seven because of the the larger mag. i cant tell you how many times i died while reloading the tac... again, throw on extended mags, use your concussions. itll come.
bloodthirsty - ah the bloodthirsties... apart from headshots, these take the most time. i found the five seven easier in this regard, again due to the larger mag. you might even want to equip scavenger for the tac. i ran out of bullets plenty of times on four kills... also, you could use the tac knife to steal a kill or two and preserve bullets. i found that worked well sometimes as well, though the tac knife isnt as reliable as in prior cods. here, i think you can get them on either FFA or TDM. TDM allows you to better control your engagements. in FFA you are much more likely to be at three kills and just get bombared by three guys at the same time. not gonna live with a pistol. i promise you. just go with whatever you feel more comfortable with. for both the five seven and the tac, i recommend the silencer. the tac NEEDS extended mags, the five seven you can add tac knife, sight, or laser. whatever floats your boat. its the more versatile of the pistols.
in FFA i found that patrolling one area, and moving a little from place to place to be the best bet. anyone you kill with a pistol will bullrush back to you, you have to expect this and constantly be one step ahead. very map dependent, just find places you feel comfortable with.
revenge - definitely play FFA, and see above paragraph. just kill him when he comes back to get you. these wont be difficult, and theyll just come naturally.
no perks/no attachments - just do them both at the same time. if youre lucky youll have a head start on some of the other challenges when you finish these. again, much easier with the five seven. but its just time. id recommend FFA.
now, after all of this, i really grew to love both the tac and five seven. and the tac just looks so gosh darn golly gee whiz sexy gold! ive become very comfortable with them, and i can win FFA matches and be top player in TDM with them; HOWEVER, they still just arent worth it. after trudging along for over 1000 kills, and countless matches trying to get those bloodthirsties, i then moved onto the B23...
oh my Foxtrotting god, it was like nirvana. rather than getting 3-4 headshots, i was getting 6-9 headshots. rather than struggling for 1 double kill, i was getting 3-5. it would take me several full FFA matches with the tac to get just ONE bloodthirsty. enter the B23, i was getting 2-3 bloodthirsties PER MATCH with the B23. i was even getting MERCILESS!!! i was getting TRIPLE KILLS. i was at 60 headshots when i started the challenge, i got to 100 in one sitting... its so clearly superior to the other pistols, it makes me really sad. i really wanted to be able to flaunt around that gold tac/five seven and have it be for MORE than just cool points. sorry to say, its not. B23 is superior. straight up. case closed.
just roll with extended mags and silencer. and youll dominate like you wouldnt believe. the tac and five seven were resistance training, and you are now on easy mode. its pretty awesome.
anyway, if anyone has any tips on the executioner, or any of the other pistols, please share. im thinking bloodthirsties with the KAP will actually be easiest with dual and scavenger... we shall see. ill of course post my progress.
**also, i meant to post this in Hey Den. maybe a mod could move it...
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Post by cashmoves on Jan 14, 2013 13:44:37 GMT -5
i think kirbyderby got them in like two days two days of gameplay? i cant imagine its just two normal days unless his life is playing cod... thats five pistols. you start off with the 100 headshot challenge. thats roughly 1000 kills. then you need 150 kills without perks or attachments. even if you get all the other revenge, bloodthirsty, and double kill challenges completed during those 150 kills (keep in mind, you have no perks or attachments), youre still looking at well over 1000 kills per pistol. times five pistols... thats five to six thousand kills. and thats including getting all this completed with the executioner... note - my explanation on the revenge challenge above makes no sense. you get revenge for killing the enemy that just killed you. not the guy you just killed obviously. still, they just happen as time progresses. run back to where you were and kill him. nothing as extreme as TI is necessary because these youll likely complete before the other challenges.
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Post by palladium on Jan 14, 2013 13:44:45 GMT -5
I just finished mine yesterday, I would advise people to play HC if you can stand it. One shot headshots for the pistols is much easier than struggling through FFA getting owned all game. The exception being the executioner which i did with assault shield and double stuns + fast hands and scav in FFA.
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Post by wwaa on Jan 14, 2013 13:49:05 GMT -5
I just finished mine yesterday, I would advise people to play HC if you can stand it. I played ~200 HC games recently, TDM and KC, and it was really good and addicting. Less soundwhoring campers than usually in MW:HC modes as sound sucks so games are fast, people run and gun all the time, no crouching chess games.... HC profited from Ghost nerf, I do not think I'll return to core games soon. Less frag spam, stupid killstreaks are rare, the first COD I enjoy HC. ... almost pistols/shotgu only ofc (no primary) and no silencer. No need to go for "gold" handguns challanges as it is hard to avoid completing them ..
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Post by danoski666 on Jan 14, 2013 13:59:41 GMT -5
two days of gameplay? i cant imagine its just two normal days unless his life is playing cod... thats five pistols. you start off with the 100 headshot challenge. thats roughly 1000 kills. then you need 150 kills without perks or attachments. even if you get all the other revenge, bloodthirsty, and double kill challenges completed during those 150 kills (keep in mind, you have no perks or attachments), youre still looking at well over 1000 kills per pistol. times five pistols... thats five to six thousand kills. and thats including getting all this completed with the executioner... note - my explanation on the revenge challenge above makes no sense. you get revenge for killing the enemy that just killed you. not the guy you just killed obviously. still, they just happen as time progresses. run back to where you were and kill him. nothing as extreme as TI is necessary because these youll likely complete before the other challenges. well he was playing FFA and topping scoreboards with the executioner so take that as you will. Kirb is the biggest badass on this forum.
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Post by cashmoves on Jan 14, 2013 14:50:56 GMT -5
wow, looks like i seriously missed the boat on HC... that might have saved me a lot of time. sitll i dont begrudge doing it with normal health. it wasnt too horrible really. and i dont think ill need to resort to it now that ive finished the tac and five seven. i can handle my own in FFA with the b23 and kap... i certainly give it a try. ill be able to compare if it takes longer or shorter to get the headshots... the first problem i can forsee is that if your first shot isnt on the head, youre not getting a headshot... so that makes me wonder.
so for the executioner, do others agree that shield + stuns, scav, and fast hands is the strategy to take? and on normal FFA right?
does kirby post his gameplay anywhere?
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Post by nablavector on Jan 14, 2013 15:48:06 GMT -5
I got Diamond on pistols, basically with the same strategy as the OP. I used tactical mask, fast hands, sprint, ligtweight, 2 x concussion. Concerning the attachments I used various setups, but the most important at least for the bloodthirsty challenge is tactical knife. For example, in the case of the executioner bloddthirsty, tactical knife in FFA is the best setup.
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Post by bravo2zero on Jan 14, 2013 16:01:02 GMT -5
I have just started this and have just moved onto the TAC from the delightful Five7. The Five7 silenced is deadly and your emblem looks badass on the back of it especially nice for game winning cam. Any fast class setup is good with concussions and your good to go.
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Post by palladium on Jan 14, 2013 16:11:54 GMT -5
Yea Assault Shield isn't needed if you prefer to have a go fast class with the Executioner, it's just what worked best for me and I was used to it from just finishing the diamond specials.
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Post by kirbyderby on Jan 14, 2013 16:23:47 GMT -5
Sorry, I don't record gameplays or really use theater. Yes, I got diamond pistols in less than two days of *in-game* play time. I almost entirely played FFA, generally with a class like this:
Primary with 1 attachment or Assault Shield
Pistol Extended Mags (Fast Mag for Executioner) Laser or Long Barrel Secondary Gunfighter
Fast Hands Tac Mask
Concussion x2
After getting headshots I jump right into no perks/no attachments, doing both challenges at the same time. My class now looks something like this:
Primary with two attachments or Assault Shield
Pistol
Shock Charge x2 Concussion x2 Tactician
Doubles and Bloodthirsties generally 2/3rds of the way done by this point, go back to class 1 and wrap it up. Revenge kills generally took the longest for me, with generally about 20 once everything else was done. Each pistol was golded within about 600 kills, give or take a hundred.
Any specific questions, feel free to ask and I'll try to answer as best I can. I think you have the general idea, though.
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Post by toysrme on Jan 14, 2013 16:32:21 GMT -5
i don't understand the difficulty in this that necessitates making a thread.
the pistol class of weapon across the board is the most powerful class of weapons in the game. only the executioner is pissy, and it's not *that* unplayable.
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Post by cashmoves on Jan 14, 2013 16:48:04 GMT -5
i don't understand the difficulty in this that necessitates making a thread. the pistol class of weapon across the board is the most powerful class of weapons in the game. only the executioner is pissy, and it's not *that* unplayable. most helpful post. like, EVARRR.
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Post by kirbyderby on Jan 14, 2013 17:14:03 GMT -5
i don't understand the difficulty in this that necessitates making a thread. the pistol class of weapon across the board is the most powerful class of weapons in the game. only the executioner is pissy, and it's not *that* unplayable. Honestly, I agree. The only tricky parts I had was headshots and no perk/attachment double kills with the executioner , and no perk/attachment bloodthirsties with the kap (I kept running out of ammo.) Pistols in this game are pretty good overall.
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Post by toysrme on Jan 14, 2013 17:50:38 GMT -5
no kidding. the kap is as good as anything in a 1v1 fight. the five seven mows over more people in a clip than any SMG in cqb, while the tac-45 is one of the top weapons in the game if you're only fighting 1-2 people at a time. it's the single greatest weapon in kill confirmed. i've pulled out 40 confirm games with it and still been positive.
have pistol? be aggressive even when being passive. the CQB damage is very high, the ready & aim times are so much faster than anything else you can abuse your high motion VS anything else.
the only thing you "can't do" with a pistol is engage an FAL at long range. that has more to do with it's IMBAness than the pistols.
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Post by cashmoves on Jan 14, 2013 21:03:14 GMT -5
i just started on the executioner and with two concussions and two shock charges i can get 3-5 headshots per FFA match. i can tell this is going to take me awhile... is the best setup dual executioners? or fast mags and tac knife maybe? im just about to unlock the riot shield, but ive never been a great riot shield guy. should give me some practice...
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Post by kirbyderby on Jan 14, 2013 21:27:24 GMT -5
i just started on the executioner and with two concussions and two shock charges i can get 3-5 headshots per FFA match. i can tell this is going to take me awhile... is the best setup dual executioners? or fast mags and tac knife maybe? im just about to unlock the riot shield, but ive never been a great riot shield guy. should give me some practice... Dual Wield is quite possibly the worst thing you could use if you're going for headshots. Fast Mag for sure, second attachment probably Laser or Long Barrel. The purpose of the Assault Shield isn't in using it at all. It's only there because you're not using a primary anyways and you have free CaC points. You could try some kind of wacky tactic involving planting it or whatever, but just having it on your back helps enough. I say ditch the shock charges while going for headshots, put those points into fast hands, tac mask and scav if you have it. I really cannot emphasize Tac Mask enough here-it really allows you to be more aggressive with your stuns, allowing you to just rush people for the face gravy while going crazy with stuns.
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Post by bravo2zero on Jan 15, 2013 2:38:52 GMT -5
the only thing you "can't do" with a pistol is engage an FAL at long range. that has more to do with it's IMBAness than the pistols. Nerf the Fal then? is the best setup dual executioners? or fast mags and tac knife maybe? The worst thing about these daft pistols is the slow reload time, it takes forever. So Fast mags would be my choice and Tac Knife. Dual wield strangly seems to reload faster but even with the extra gun it still sucks.
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Post by cashmoves on Jan 15, 2013 8:34:50 GMT -5
i just started on the executioner and with two concussions and two shock charges i can get 3-5 headshots per FFA match. i can tell this is going to take me awhile... is the best setup dual executioners? or fast mags and tac knife maybe? im just about to unlock the riot shield, but ive never been a great riot shield guy. should give me some practice... Dual Wield is quite possibly the worst thing you could use if you're going for headshots. Fast Mag for sure, second attachment probably Laser or Long Barrel. The purpose of the Assault Shield isn't in using it at all. It's only there because you're not using a primary anyways and you have free CaC points. You could try some kind of wacky tactic involving planting it or whatever, but just having it on your back helps enough. I say ditch the shock charges while going for headshots, put those points into fast hands, tac mask and scav if you have it. I really cannot emphasize Tac Mask enough here-it really allows you to be more aggressive with your stuns, allowing you to just rush people for the face gravy while going crazy with stuns. oooooh, ok i thought you were using the shield to draw enemies, then stun them, then take off their heads. ok. well, ill equip it just for back protection. and yea, ive been using fast hands and tac mask (i agree, its incredible, especially considering how powerful concussions are in this game, they barely affect you at all). as soon as i get scavenger im going to equip it... im only level 33 right now though. i appreciate the help. and yea, the pistols, based on stats alone are certainly formidable in close to mid range. its also clear the developers chose to limit them with mag capacity and reload times. i agree with their methodology. they want secondaries to BE SECONDARIES. meaning, give fast swap times and enough power to knock out one or two guys in succession. for that, the pistols are excellent. what i find them to NOT be excellent at is the bloodthirsties... without scavenger, its very difficult with some of them, executioner most of all. the headshots, at least for me, are just about grinding it out. stun, aim, hope you get the headshot. i REALLY wish the stun animation didnt make the player model duck his head down... i normally try to flank a player to avoid his random spraying with whatever smg he is bound to have with a 60 round mag.... and you can barely see his head with the animation...
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Post by bravo2zero on Jan 15, 2013 9:00:00 GMT -5
Would anyone advocate aiming just above the targets head for Executioner headshots? When I aim for the head normally I don't seem to get that many h/s, and i'm assuming the pellet spray downwards towards the body is to blame.
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Post by Dumien on Jan 15, 2013 9:46:52 GMT -5
This is my all purpose "imagetsumheadshotsandstilldominatemyFFAlobby" class. I am notoriously bad at getting headshots (I shoot people in the balls) so it takes actual effort for me to go for them, Keep in mind that I play FFA with a relatively defensive style in contrast to my normally aggressive playstyle in other gamemodes.
GunX Primary Gunfighter Precision sight QD Stock LW Scav Dex Claymore (or betty depending on claymores unlocked) Shock
This is the same thing I'm going to try re adapted to pistols.
Assault Shield Secondary Gunfighter PistolX Exmags Long Barrel LW Scav Dex Claymore Shock
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Post by kirbyderby on Jan 15, 2013 16:18:39 GMT -5
Dual Wield is quite possibly the worst thing you could use if you're going for headshots. Fast Mag for sure, second attachment probably Laser or Long Barrel. The purpose of the Assault Shield isn't in using it at all. It's only there because you're not using a primary anyways and you have free CaC points. You could try some kind of wacky tactic involving planting it or whatever, but just having it on your back helps enough. I say ditch the shock charges while going for headshots, put those points into fast hands, tac mask and scav if you have it. I really cannot emphasize Tac Mask enough here-it really allows you to be more aggressive with your stuns, allowing you to just rush people for the face gravy while going crazy with stuns. oooooh, ok i thought you were using the shield to draw enemies, then stun them, then take off their heads. ok. well, ill equip it just for back protection. and yea, ive been using fast hands and tac mask (i agree, its incredible, especially considering how powerful concussions are in this game, they barely affect you at all). as soon as i get scavenger im going to equip it... im only level 33 right now though. i appreciate the help. Experiment and see what works for you, don't just do it because someone said so. All I know is, for me, that strategy would net me 7+ headshots on an average game of FFA.
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Post by bravo2zero on Jan 15, 2013 17:12:45 GMT -5
I am up to 62 headshots now with the Executioner and have been playing for about 3-4 hours solid. I have tried laser, knife and fast mags but with all the rushers in ffa i was only getting about 2 headshots per game. Surprisingly I have had the best luck with dual wield and had a maximum of 7 hs in one match. (The right map plays a part though) In addition to more headshots I'm getting some bloodthirsty's too now. General tactic is to rush around (not in the open) and spam the stuns and blast just above the head.
Setup: Vector naked Exe (dual wield) Lightweight, scavenger, engineer-extreme conditioning. 2x stuns
Once this is gold I will never use the bloody gun again.
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Post by -3055- on Jan 15, 2013 19:06:18 GMT -5
You guys are doing it all wrong
stop relying on tacticals. That's just extra time wasted. You'll either get headshots or you'll die. sacrificing an additional 5-10 seconds per kill will take forever.
Long barrel on everything. Maybe laser on five seven and secondary gunfighter for executioner, but everything else is fine.
Must have:
lightweight: you're on the highest speed tier. Maximize on that. ghost: always helps.
toughness: since you're going for headshots, you will never get lucky and "flinch up" to a headshot. Go for accuracy, not luck. scavenger: never hurts to have extra ammo. especially for the kap or b23r
dexterity: it's like quickdraw but even better and for non-campers.
five seven is the easiest to get headshots with. By 100 headshots, i had exactly 136 kills and a 1.2 weapon KD. one of my proudest moments.
Hardest would have to be b23r or executioner. Don't treat the executioner headshot hunting like a gun. Handle it like a knife. Don't try to engage opponents that you wouldn't regularly engage with a knife. since it's a buckshot, headshots are even harder. The most frustating part of getting the gold exec was shooting the head at a reasonable range and getting 5 hitmarkers or just getting a normal kill.
for the double kills, don't try to get 2 kills with 5 shots. Use fast mags, and just go for rapid kills. the reload is fast enough to be within the two-kills-quickly timespan.
Don't listen to bravo. Never use akimbo executioners. Use laser and long barrel. I've gotten my first Pistoleer challenge (10 headshots in a single game with pistols) with the executioner quite easily. No tacticals.
Also, if you're committed to using pistols, don't bring a primary. It might help with keeping your kd afloat, BUT IT HAS NO DIRECT HELP. you're just wasting more time.
similarly, the assault shield/tacticals/pistols tactic is just unbelievably time consuming. Assault shields make you extremely visible, fairly slow, and require more points when you could be just gunning with pistols. If you're not comfortable with a little kd loss, or you're just so bad at headshots that this is the only way, then just practice normal kills with pistols first, then come back to it. Getting diamond with a weapon doesn't show how impressive you are, performing exceptionally well with it is impressive. Too many diamond snipers in S&D who are terrible at sniping for me to take any snipers seriously.
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Post by kirbyderby on Jan 15, 2013 20:37:34 GMT -5
stop relying on tacticals. That's just extra time wasted. You'll either get headshots or you'll die. sacrificing an additional 5-10 seconds per kill will take forever. On the other hand, a concussion grenade will all but guarantee a headshot on a single enemy. They are also useful for catching up to an enemy that is far away or running away from you. Long barrel on everything. Maybe laser on five seven and secondary gunfighter for executioner, but everything else is fine. while going for headshots, you probably won't be far enough away that long barrel is going to make any sort of significant difference. On the other hand, the only other useful attachments are laser and extended clip (or speed reloader with the Executioner.) I prefer Extended/Speed and Laser. Must have: lightweight: you're on the highest speed tier. Maximize on that. ghost: always helps. toughness: since you're going for headshots, you will never get lucky and "flinch up" to a headshot. Go for accuracy, not luck. scavenger: never hurts to have extra ammo. especially for the kap or b23r dexterity: it's like quickdraw but even better and for non-campers. Lightweight isn't necessary, but if you have an extra point it wouldn't hurt. Ghost only helps when the enemy has a UAV and you are moving. In FFA, only one enemy gets the benefit of a UAV, so the benefit is even more marginal. Better off not wasting the point. Toughness if you're not using tacticals, Fast Hands/Scavenger if you are. ammo capacity with Extended is generally sufficient for a life on just about everything if you don't spray all over the place (which you shouldn't be if you're expecting to get any reasonable number of headshots.) Dexterity is good, but Tac Mask is really helpful with tacticals. It's a judgement call on what to invest points in, personally I would rather drop fast hands from tier 2 and have dex/tac. five seven is the easiest to get headshots with. Yes. Hardest would have to be b23r or executioner. Don't treat the executioner headshot hunting like a gun. Handle it like a knife. Don't try to engage opponents that you wouldn't regularly engage with a knife. since it's a buckshot, headshots are even harder. The most frustating part of getting the gold exec was shooting the head at a reasonable range and getting 5 hitmarkers or just getting a normal kill. for the double kills, don't try to get 2 kills with 5 shots. Use fast mags, and just go for rapid kills. the reload is fast enough to be within the two-kills-quickly timespan. This is where I think concussions really shine, allowing you to close in on enemies that would normally be far outside of engagement range with the Executioner. Double kills with the executioner are doable with fast mag, but you have to be very picky/lucky with your engagements. Fast mag is just overall really helpful if you're not going through the no attachments challenge. Also, if you're committed to using pistols, don't bring a primary. It might help with keeping your kd afloat, BUT IT HAS NO DIRECT HELP. you're just wasting more time. Because losing is for filthy casuals. I like to have two classes while going for headshots. One uses only the pistol, with perks/equipment designed for optimal usage of that pistol. Another class is functionally similar, but drops a few points (usually in excess perks or secondary gunfighter) for a primary with an attachment. I use the pistol-only class in maps where it is best suited and I can really optimize my headshot intake (Hijacked, for example). The primary class is used when there are generally much less options for successfully engaging enemies with a pistol and/or getting headshots (most of Carrier, for example.) I mean if you really need diamond pistols ASAP and you don't care about tanking your k/d, then feel free to just use the pistol all the time. Makes no difference to me. similarly, the assault shield/tacticals/pistols tactic is just unbelievably time consuming. Assault shields make you extremely visible, fairly slow, and require more points when you could be just gunning with pistols. You're worried about visibility in FFA? Also, if it's on your back you're not running any slower then you would be with just the pistol, but you have bullet protection on your back, which can save you sometimes. you can use it to flank around stunned enemies, plant it for quick cover while you shoot an enemy, etc.
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Post by legacy on Jan 15, 2013 22:03:15 GMT -5
I've fallen in love with the Five-Seven pistol and usually run it with long barrel.
I haven't really been on a quest to get gold or diamond though. I got diamond shotguns pretty quickly but lately the gold and diamond camo seem a little too hacker/mainstream. Being someone that likes to go against the grain, I think I'm gonna stick with using Cherry Blossom or just switch it up often.
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Post by -3055- on Jan 15, 2013 23:55:09 GMT -5
Wait, this is ffa specific? I thought it was basically "add in your 5 cents"
If it's ffa, then yeah. No ghost. Use concussion if you want; I did them all within four days without. Kill confirmed and tdm for me
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Post by kirbyderby on Jan 16, 2013 0:34:52 GMT -5
Wait, this is ffa specific? I thought it was basically "add in your 5 cents" If it's ffa, then yeah. No ghost. Use concussion if you want; I did them all within four days without. Kill confirmed and tdm for me I figured it was something like this when you actually recommended using Ghost. The topic is not necessarily FFA specific, but it was the OP's main mode, I believe, as well as what most people were recommending. It's also the mode I primarily played to earn my diamond. Therefore, my posts would be in relation to that game mode. Feel free to add any tips specific to the game modes you used, by all means.
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Post by bravo2zero on Jan 16, 2013 2:41:51 GMT -5
Don't listen to bravo. Never use akimbo executioners. Use laser and long barrel. I've gotten my first Pistoleer challenge (10 headshots in a single game with pistols) with the executioner quite easily. No tacticals. Yeah don't listen to me. I'm not telling people how they should play for this challenge, I'm just saying duals worked for me. Otherwise a single Executioner would have taken me forever. Laser sight is good but im not sure about Long Barrel on the Ex, the slow reload without fast mags would get you in trouble.
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Post by cashmoves on Jan 16, 2013 8:43:04 GMT -5
Don't listen to bravo. Never use akimbo executioners. Use laser and long barrel. I've gotten my first Pistoleer challenge (10 headshots in a single game with pistols) with the executioner quite easily. No tacticals. Yeah don't listen to me. I'm not telling people how they should play for this challenge, I'm just saying duals worked for me. Otherwise a single Executioner would have taken me forever. Laser sight is good but im not sure about Long Barrel on the Ex, the slow reload without fast mags would get you in trouble. just got the B23 gold last night as well. it was a pleasure haha. i have found that with the B23 and KAP bloodthirsties are easier with dual. they are both such good guns you can get them with really any setup, but the dual provides a much higher percentage chance of you winning cqc and also doubles your ammo, which is really these guns biggest limitations. i havent unlocked dual with the exe yet to give that a shot... i have i think 22 head shots and i havent even unlocked the knife yet. ill get there soon hopefully. i have been playing FFA simply because i thought it set up for the most advantageous way to approach these challenges in the shortest period of time. ive played some TDM as well when i had completed the no perks/attachment challenges. my K/D means nothing to me. its currently at like 1.02 haha. right now im playing solely to complete these challenges, with some breaks in between for my sanity. honestly, headshots arent too bad with the exe using the tacticals approach in FFA. its just going to take time. i havent hit kirby's 7 headshot average. im more able to bank around 4... i think that will improve though. i even got one bloodthirsty before getting fast mags haha. of course, it didnt count anyway, i can tell its going to be the 20 double kills that are going to drive me crazy. i think my best bet will be with the tac knife... knife someone, then hope theres another guy near me i can pop off real quick. this will negate the problem of reloading. anyone try that strategy?
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bravo2zero
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Post by bravo2zero on Jan 16, 2013 10:01:28 GMT -5
i think my best bet will be with the tac knife... knife someone, then hope theres another guy near me i can pop off real quick. this will negate the problem of reloading. anyone try that strategy? I tried the tac knife but I struggled with it. (Never bring a knife to a gun fight). However if your good with the knife in general then this might work for you. My trouble with double kills and bloodthirstys with the Exe was it needed reloading after each kill. The Fast Mag helps a lot but your still gonna lose out to that second man more often than not with a reload. Duals have a fast mag built in for some crazy reason. And the extra ammo helped me get more multi kills. I still needed a fast class and scavenger though.
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