I'm not sure anyone knows what you are 'seeing' or 'measuring'. Speaking for myself, I already told you what I see....I simply looked at the CoD Elite stats, my KD per gun, and I don't see any big or remarkable performance result using the MP7. In terms of 'seeing', that's pretty clear cut.
Re: MW3 Noob Gun List « Reply #121 on May 10, 2012, 3:50pm »
Just went and looked at the gun KD stats for six of my friends.....same/similar results as me. There is no elevated performance for the MP7. All six have smg's with higher KD's than the MP7. That's about as clear cut as one can make.
but I am lost at your arguing as well so all fine.... maybe your friends cannot use MP7 effectively ?
That's not the case. They are all good players. I'm going to guess that no matter how many people i look at, the differences between the MP7 and other guns are marginal at best.
Re: MW3 Noob Gun List « Reply #124 on May 11, 2012, 9:42pm »
If the PP90 or MP7 arent on top of the SMG K/D list, then other factors are at work.
Play time with them? Game modes? Poor class setups?
Famas was one of my lowest, if not the lowest, K/D ARs in Black Ops. Why? Only used it when I had to [smart players] == and nothing more. It caused ~1.5K/D reduction versus my higher K/D weapons like the FAL and M14.
Re: MW3 Noob Gun List « Reply #125 on Aug 16, 2012, 10:29pm »
It never ceases to amaze me how every online game has threads like this. People whining and whining "ohhh thats so OP" or "only noobs use this." For the smg list you put the top three most used guns (potentially p90 trumped by ump5), so your basically saying that if anybody uses smg they're noob, unless its the inferior one? They use them b/c they are statistically better, that makes sense. I've felt the Type 95 has gotten a bad rap for a while, and is it truly an OP gun? lets say you're using a p90 (OP as well apparently), you can pump out 857 rpm vs. the mid 400's to the 95. You'll be hurling out twice as much lead at close to mid range, you have the advantage of being able to miss a shot or three. If the 95 misses one of it shots, he'll die to a good player...why (assuming they're both good players)? B/c that split second delay between his burst he ate 2-3 more rounds, plenty enough to kill him. If you die repeatedly to the 95 you're either inconsistent with aiming, or he beat you to the trigger (granted lag comp.) In closing, if you subtract the pm9 (pathetic gun) then that leaves five smg's....so three are allegedly OP?...that statistically makes no sense, think about it...that just makes the other two inferior.
Re: MW3 Noob Gun List « Reply #131 on Aug 18, 2012, 12:53am »
Yeah, I thought the same thing. Its a dead thread, but I've been hearing so much about this same group of guns for months now. I just saw it and slammed the reply link, heat of the moment. Btw, I've been playing a little mid day lately and there's like twelve year olds in groups blowin the lobby chat up...aren't they supposed to be in school now? Unrelated, yes, but hearing high pitch prepubescent Oprah singers while I'm murkin nerds is so distracting. Just wondering when it ends.
If it can kill someone it's nooby. Therefore the pro weapons are equipment that doesn't kill people.
But anyway, none of the weapons complained about are anything more than borderline OP. No reason to do anything to them as they are excellent at nothing (besides ACR reloads) terrible at nothing. No patch required. The thing with the famas was it was a mid range AR with better rof than non rapid fire smgs, and so was basically a better SMG than SMGs because it could do what A SMG does better, and do what an AR does but better.
If it can kill someone it's nooby. Therefore the pro weapons are equipment that doesn't kill people.
But anyway, none of the weapons complained about are anything more than borderline OP. No reason to do anything to them as they are excellent at nothing (besides ACR reloads) terrible at nothing. No patch required. The thing with the famas was it was a mid range AR with better rof than non rapid fire smgs, and so was basically a better SMG than SMGs because it could do what A SMG does better, and do what an AR does but better.
Doesn't that basically describe the Type 95 as well? The Type also has 2HKs up close and even higher RoF than the FAMAS.
Doesn't that basically describe the Type 95 as well? The Type also has 2HKs up close and even higher RoF than the FAMAS.
I saw no noobs on PC with Type95. Noobs do not use burst or semi auto weapons. Well, maybe on xbox, no idea how good aim assist is.... ^^ After Mousey: no prefiring, no room for error, + eating ammo in long range, + LOW ROF in CQC if any error.
Re: MW3 Noob Gun List « Reply #142 on Aug 19, 2012, 6:28pm »
Weirdest double post I have seen. How did I manage to double post and quote myself, bringing up my second point in the second post but not in the first is quite beyond me.
Weirdest double post I have seen. How did I manage to double post and quote myself, bringing up my second point in the second post but not in the first is quite beyond me.
I figured bringing that up, but I just couldnt think of anything else to say at the time.
Weirdest double post I have seen. How did I manage to double post and quote myself, bringing up my second point in the second post but not in the first is quite beyond me.
You meant to edit your first post, but instead hit quote, thus double posting.
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