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Post by imrlybord7 on Nov 20, 2012 11:34:55 GMT -5
Cuz I can't find one.
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Post by Champ on Nov 20, 2012 11:43:43 GMT -5
AN has better recoil. Not less, but better.
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Post by mmacola on Nov 20, 2012 11:53:52 GMT -5
900RPM burst? I don't know.
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Post by Champ on Nov 20, 2012 11:59:39 GMT -5
It seems all this talk about AN select fire is total bulldoo-doo. For me it's much worse than full auto and visually slower.
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Post by asasa on Nov 20, 2012 12:05:32 GMT -5
Yeah, IDK who said it was so good.. but there is a pretty significant burst delay. Its barely any faster.
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Post by Megaqwerty on Nov 20, 2012 12:08:15 GMT -5
AN94 has a higher fire rate if burst fired, but reduced range and penetration. The recoil profile is also different. I'm with Champ in that the AN doesn't necessarily kick less, but it does kick in a much more favorable manner.
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Post by I Am Hollywood5 on Nov 20, 2012 14:21:24 GMT -5
AN94 has a higher fire rate if burst fired, but reduced range and penetration. The recoil profile is also different. I'm with Champ in that the AN doesn't necessarily kick less, but it does kick in a much more favorable manner. LOL what??? reduced range??? All the burst guns get a penalty from going into full-auto mode. The AN gets a penalty for going from full-auto to burst? and there's a burst DELAY?
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Post by Champ on Nov 20, 2012 14:39:17 GMT -5
AN94 has a higher fire rate if burst fired, but reduced range and penetration. The recoil profile is also different. I'm with Champ in that the AN doesn't necessarily kick less, but it does kick in a much more favorable manner. LOL what??? reduced range??? All the burst guns get a penalty from going into full-auto mode. The AN gets a penalty for going from full-auto to burst? and there's a burst DELAY? It's either delay or super high recoil, so you couldn't use moded controlers with it. And high recoil is too hardcore for those COD kids
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Post by I Am Hollywood5 on Nov 20, 2012 15:01:20 GMT -5
okay okay maybe the delay isn't the end of the world, you can still hit 720 rpm, but why the fucking range penalty? ?
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Post by Robospy on Nov 20, 2012 15:02:21 GMT -5
AN94 has a higher fire rate if burst fired, but reduced range and penetration. The recoil profile is also different. I'm with Champ in that the AN doesn't necessarily kick less, but it does kick in a much more favorable manner. LOL what??? reduced range??? All the burst guns get a penalty from going into full-auto mode. The AN gets a penalty for going from full-auto to burst? and there's a burst DELAY? They mean reduced range as in it has less range than te SCAR, not less than its auto self. And the burst delay is very short, almost negligible, it's only to stop modded controller pros.
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Post by Champ on Nov 20, 2012 15:05:52 GMT -5
I wouldn't say the delay is short by any means. And firerate inside burst is laughable, bullets just don't connect.
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Post by Judge_St3vo on Nov 20, 2012 15:14:50 GMT -5
The SCAR is the best stock full auto imo. However, when you throw select fire on the FAL and M8a1, they're better.
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Post by I Am Hollywood5 on Nov 20, 2012 16:26:09 GMT -5
The SCAR is the best stock full auto imo. However, when you throw select fire on the FAL and M8a1, they're better. I'd agree with this. Best auto Assault Rifles (still not better than SMGs)
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Post by Megaqwerty on Nov 20, 2012 17:21:39 GMT -5
I was comparing the AN94 to the SCAR, not the two fire modes of the AN itself.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2012 17:53:30 GMT -5
While we're comparing guns...
TAR vs Type 25?
Tar has slightly better recoil, but less firerate and the Type 25's recoil I find to be easily manageable. What does everybody else think?
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Post by kazei009 on Nov 20, 2012 18:35:47 GMT -5
While we're comparing guns... TAR vs Type 25? Tar has slightly better recoil, but less firerate and the Type 25's recoil I find to be easily manageable. What does everybody else think? The IWI X95 Flattop(MTAR) is power guy here - it can kill in 3 hits on close range, Norinco QBZ-95 Futuristic Modification(Type 25) can't, but it shoots faster and have less recoil. It's two different guns: I'll take T 25 for all-around strategy and MTAR for close-mid fights.
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Post by volgon on Nov 20, 2012 18:36:42 GMT -5
While we're comparing guns... TAR vs Type 25? Tar has slightly better recoil, but less firerate and the Type 25's recoil I find to be easily manageable. What does everybody else think? Depends on what you want to use them for. I set up my MTAR and Type for the same role (CQC/stealth) but go about it differently. MTAR = try to capitalize on its superior TTK, so I run Quickdraw + Stock along with a Suppressor. It has a slow RPM so the Laser isn't that great, imo. Type = fast RPM like the MP7/Vector so hip fire is much more effective. I run Quickdraw (just a mainstay for my AR classes), Suppressor and Laser.
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Post by Megaqwerty on Nov 20, 2012 19:08:52 GMT -5
The Type is significantly better in mid-range to beyond, so its superiority over the MTAR will depend on your play style.
Both guns have the same BTK at 46 feet (550 units), which is shotgun range. The Type is superior outside of this range.
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Post by I Am Hollywood5 on Nov 20, 2012 23:15:15 GMT -5
The MTAR does have the 3HK range, but idk if it's big enough to make a difference. Type 25 is still probably better overall...
However, keep in mind the MTAR does have a little bit longer 4HK than the Type 25, if that means anything to you.
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Post by Megaqwerty on Nov 20, 2012 23:31:11 GMT -5
However, keep in mind the MTAR does have a little bit longer 4HK than the Type 25, if that means anything to you. By 12 feet, sure.
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Post by rubixx on Nov 21, 2012 2:22:18 GMT -5
I prefer the MTAR and AN-94 for each comparison. I just hate the type 25's irons and cant justify spending a point on optics. Select fire on the AN-94 is pointless. Just keep tapping the trigger at mid/long range to get the FR advantage. At close range you can hold down if it is too hard to focus on bursting. Best of both worlds .
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Post by Voice from the Basement on Nov 21, 2012 4:08:32 GMT -5
scar is pretty much best pony
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Post by seanbateman on Nov 21, 2012 5:22:51 GMT -5
What reason is there to choose the Scar over the AN?
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Post by pwn3d on Nov 21, 2012 6:00:56 GMT -5
AN-94 is better in any situation. The burst feature makes it better in close combat and on long range it is more effective because it can stay on target while firing full auto.
There is no Situation in the game where I would prefer a SCAR over my AN-94.
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Post by kazei009 on Nov 21, 2012 8:14:14 GMT -5
I think, devs should swap AN-94 with AN-94 burst fire, so it will fire in bursts by default. It's stupid that to access unique feature of this weapon you have to put an attachment on this. Also, SCAR-H beats AN-94 in full auto mode about completely: better range, better irons, even better reload
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Post by Megaqwerty on Nov 21, 2012 11:36:55 GMT -5
You don't need burst fire to burst the AN94. The first two rounds come out faster even in full auto mode.
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Post by kazei009 on Nov 21, 2012 12:22:28 GMT -5
You don't need burst fire to burst the AN94. The first two rounds come out faster even in full auto mode. Wow, thanks! That's really interesting and that's really cool.
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Post by Megaqwerty on Nov 21, 2012 13:35:38 GMT -5
In theory, a macro could fire the AN94 at about 720 RPM by automatically skipping the third bullet. In practice, burst firing should make it far superior to the SCAR in mid range.
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Post by jaykay on Nov 23, 2012 8:51:33 GMT -5
theoretically you mean. I still think the much higher 3hk and 4hk range are better, plus you dont lose out on focus for, i.e, difficult long range targets because you have to manually burst
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Post by kylet357 on Nov 24, 2012 22:02:49 GMT -5
I still don't think that a higher 3 hit and 4 hit kill range mean anything when you can't even hit your target. I definitely prefer the AN-94 over the SCAR-H. If it were up to me, I would make the SCAR-H a 3-4 hit kill or at least give it more range than the SWAT. That's just my opinion though.
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