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Post by red on May 21, 2010 11:41:11 GMT -5
Everyone loves to sound whore on call of duty games.
I've had a pair of x1's since I got my xbox 2 years ago. 6 months ago I got my X41. Dont get me wrong I love them, they are comfortable and the sound is really good. The problem though is a hissing sound that is there because it wireless.
I was think about getting a pair of Astro A40 because I have heard they are the best headset around.
Does anyone have any other recommendations or are they the best ones?
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Post by mdnl on May 21, 2010 12:25:58 GMT -5
I get the hissing on P21 wired, it seems to be a general problem with TB.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2010 14:20:52 GMT -5
I can only speak to the headset that I own. The Tritton 720's are very good IMO, crisp sound with no interference (wired though). I do find that I play a bit too loud sometimes in order to hear footsteps better. I wonder if there are headsets that hit that frequency a bit better as to not require me going deaf to get the 'sound whore' advantage.
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Post by toysrme on May 21, 2010 14:45:56 GMT -5
Here's the lowdown on console/general purpose headsets: AXPRO > Astro A40=AX720 > turtle beach crap Tritton AXPRO's ftmfw all day all night. They are TRUE surround sound with 8 drivers in the headset. Not the simulated virtual surround from stereo bullshit turtle beach, astro & AX720s try to feed you. (Dolby Headphone Surround) which works by reproducing sounds from the rear channel "muffled & muted" to let you know sound is behind you. (Literally you have to learn that a "muffled sound" means behind you. It doesn't naturally come from behind you LoL!) Astro's, AX720 & everything turtle crap lables "surround sound" are all identical things. Stereo headset + the exact same Dolby Headphone Surround processing chip in a box. AXPro's also have the best sound reproduction window by far: What youll notice is that Astro's while being "known as great sounding headsets" sure do clip an assload of sound out. Not really any better than AX720s yet cost $80usd more. Bad deal! Keep in mind that nearly everyone that buys Astro's for their high quality sound immediately ditches the stock headset & simply keeps the mix-amp to run much higher quality stereo headphones than they provide. If you are going to buy Astro's for the Mix-Amp then do it. Otherwise AX720's are the same thing for much less money. So basically... Without being a fanboy you can rule out TB's on the basis that they're no better sounding than cheap 30mm driver headphones from walmart. Rule rule out Astro's in favor of AX720's because its the exact same damn thing for less money. Rule in AXPro's because they sound amazing & have ACTUAL surround sound. (3x 30mm drivers providing front stereo, surround + 1x 40mm driver providing fill per ear. For refference tbs typically use 30mm drivers across their line & astro's are 40mm). Rule in the Astro mix-amp + high dollar stereo headphones if you have tons of money and will be watching lots of movies. There are no headphones on the gaming market that can touch AXPros for playing video games. The difference in surround positioning is better than anything you've ever heard of ANY dollar amount. With "virtual surround" headphones you basically can tell where someone is on the NSEW compass points. With AXPRO's I can tell you not only EXACTLY where he is from my bearing, but I can tell you above, same floor or below me. = massive win.
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Post by toysrme on May 21, 2010 14:59:54 GMT -5
for refference I have an old broken set of AXPROs. New 2010 set of AXPROs on the way (yay!). Currently playing on some borrowed AX720s. Returned some Sheinhaur HD 218s for being crap.
AFA comparing to real surround sound. One room has 7.1 channel surround (Onkyo+7x JBLs). Another room has 5.0 surround via JBL 4311B control monitors. No sound limit to either & neither system begins to touch the positioning abilities of the AXPRO's.
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Post by R4bbit Juice on May 21, 2010 17:24:42 GMT -5
It really depends on what you'll use the headset for. If it's for pubs and the occasional scrim, then either stereo or the dolby headphones will do for you at a much lower price. If you're a serious competitive gamer , I recommend the AXPRO, Turtle Beach HPX, or Senheissers. Astros sponsors MLG (that's why MLG fanboys love it so much) but they are ridiculously overpriced. And finally here's a very indepth guide on headset from the GB/MLG forums. gamebattles.com/forums/t/Headset-Guide-Round-Up-Review-3085578 (not advertising or anything)
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Post by n1gh7 on May 21, 2010 19:33:26 GMT -5
You really have 2 options here:
1. If you want Sound QUALITY in your games (and for other things) get the Astro A40 MixAmp and some good Sennheiser headphones. HD 555 is the lowest you should go here. (Price wise.)
2. If you want a little better sound positioning and don't want to spend as much money get the AXPROs. However, remember that they will only do good in applications where sound position is important like movies and games. Music is much better with regular 2 driver headphones in the idea above.
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Post by brandon7s on May 22, 2010 0:07:55 GMT -5
I use Astro Mixamp + AKG K701, or sometimes my Beyerdynamic DT990\250ohms Pro; either combination is simply great.
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Post by n1gh7 on May 22, 2010 0:51:42 GMT -5
^^ option 1 is him. (great choice by the way)
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Post by brandon7s on May 23, 2010 0:12:03 GMT -5
^^ option 1 is him. (great choice by the way) Thanks - By the way, the AD700 is also a good headphone (around $80) for gaming. I tried it, but the bass is a bit thin. The real reason I went to some other headphones for gaming is because I listen to music on them as well, and the AD700 pads irritate my skin for some reason.. but the AD700 have fantastic soundstage, and are great for detecting positions in gaming with the Mixamp.
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Post by dconnorz on May 23, 2010 1:51:55 GMT -5
I use A40s and they are awesome. I am wondering if Toysrme has tried A40s, becuase I can still pinpoint NESW and above or below. Furthermore in A40s defense, that graph looks pretty cool, some of the nuances that are removed by the A40s you're not going to be able to hear anyways(assuming you're not a cyborg sent from the future hellbent on playing MW2 competitively).
My only complaint with the A40s, is the 2.5mm cable supplied for, and this only matters if you plan on playing xbox 360 with it, breaks after about a years worth of abuse. The guys at Astro were nice enough to replace it the first time, but I've had this headset for about 2 years now, so I'm going to try just using a normal 2.5mm cable and see what happens. That being said, Astros are a little outdated.
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Post by n1gh7 on May 23, 2010 15:27:51 GMT -5
A normal cable doesn't work. And just email them again and they'll give you a new one for free.
I don't care what toysmere said, but the reason that I don't like the A40s is because the sound quality sucks. Positioning is fine, but the sound quality is terrible.
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Post by toysrme on May 23, 2010 17:38:56 GMT -5
if you think you can pinpoint a position with simulated surround. take that up 100x with actual surround sound. I have no trouble telling where people are in simulated surround. It's simlply shitty. The sound is LITERALLY proccessed as disturbingly muffled if sound is behind you. Sounds that are left/right are grossly overplayed in that headphone while the other headphone is underplayed while front diagonal sounds are... They simply don't "sound right". You know it's diagonally NE, NW, but it sounds wierd. Step out of simulated BS and into real surround and it's a whole different ballgame! The majority of the time I prefer straight stereo to virtual BS. The sound itself isn't distorted. (which is why I tell people the truth in that you can get 95% of the benefit to headphones with a stereo any receiver& a pair of headphones)
AFA A40's go. again 720s are the same thing minus $80. Yes, I have many friends that use A40's. A few that use TB's. Ive heard much of it. The honest to god truth to A40's is that the kind of people that look to shell out $200 are not looking to buy the $15-$35 chinese headsets that come with TB, Tritton or Astros. Probably 30-50% of the guys I know in real life that have A40's ebay the headset & run the mixamp + Audio-Technica ATH AD700s. Over 50% of them on XBL are picky enough to run AD700s or better on the mixamp.
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Post by toysrme on May 23, 2010 17:41:20 GMT -5
and Im very happy in that I ordered my AXPros yesterday. Lead time is 3 weeks. :\ So these 720s are going back ASA the pros get here.
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Post by mp5kbeast on May 24, 2010 15:38:51 GMT -5
the turtle beach 11x with sitrep pro is kind of beast
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Post by R4bbit Juice on May 24, 2010 19:09:24 GMT -5
the turtle beach 11x with sitrep pro is kind of beast Yea, but too bad it doesn't work with ninja users. -_-
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Post by snakex on May 25, 2010 7:00:57 GMT -5
use Astros MixAmp with turtle beach HPX.
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Post by red on May 26, 2010 10:51:05 GMT -5
Thanks for the help guys.
Since I live in the UK, getting a hold of headsets is hard, we have got the choice of either amazon.co.uk or limexb360.co.uk.
At the moment I'm going to get the TB HPX1 (The reviews for this have been very good) and the Astro Mixamp.
I know if I use the mixamp with the HPX it only uses two of it's 40mm speakers in each ear cup, so I'm going to see if I can some how get all 8 speakers to work so I can get true 5.1 surround sound.
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Post by avemcree on May 26, 2010 14:17:33 GMT -5
I just got my headsets 2 days ago... talk about a huge difference
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Post by Gamma on Nov 27, 2015 8:17:49 GMT -5
Can anyone recommend the best headsets for predominantly sound-whoring? I'm planning to get BO3 with the PS4 soon. Currently, I'm thinking about the Tritton Pro+
I used to own Tritton AX720s back when I played MW2
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Post by qupie on Nov 27, 2015 8:20:58 GMT -5
Do not ever get tritton/turtlebeach/astro (the mixamp is good though!). If you have some time to read, you should really read this: www.head-fi.org/t/534479/mad-lust-envys-headphone-gaming-guide-5-31-2015-beyer-cop-and-shure-1540-addedTldr; audiophile headphones are always better for sound-whoring than gaming headphones. The drawback is that you have to work with a seperate mic allot of the time (although there are some sennheisers for example including a mic). You always want an open back headphone, unless you are in the same room as somebody else who is trying to sleep.
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Post by illram on Nov 27, 2015 12:06:16 GMT -5
FYI, if anyone wants to try some "audiophile" grade cans, Sennheiser HD598's on sale at Amazon for $98. (Usually $250). I'm going to buy a pair and add it to the collection of 3 headphones currently sitting on my entertainment center. (Crappy Xbox $50 headphones+mic, crappy Logitech fake surround G430 headphones + mic for my PC, and bose earbuds that I use when I need to also hear the baby monitor...lol) No mic on these, but I play solo, never talk to anyone and I have the "mute all" option selected in the options anyway...haha
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Nov 27, 2015 12:34:27 GMT -5
Hope you have an amp or dope sound card to go with that headset.
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Post by illram on Nov 27, 2015 13:20:50 GMT -5
I'll run them through my receiver. Xbone and my living room gaming PC are both run through my receiver to my TV. I was using the xbox controller mic plug with my headsets but if I am muting everyone in this game anyway, I figure I'll go back to the old way I used to do it.
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Post by malgato on Nov 27, 2015 14:14:04 GMT -5
Is a mixamp absolutely needed for high end audio headsets like Sennheiser? I was thinking about trying them, but don't want to shell out for a mixamp right away. Mistake?
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Post by qupie on Nov 27, 2015 15:12:03 GMT -5
according to mad lust envy, yes.
You will never go wrong with those sennheisers for 100 bucks though! Those are pretty sweet. I don't know if you ever commute or have other opportunities to listen to music on them? They are not very recommended for at work though (unless you have your own office).
You can always add some kind of surround simulator DSP later for gaming.
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Post by Pegasus Actual on Nov 27, 2015 16:31:40 GMT -5
Those Sennhys will go well with a MixAmp and a ModMic, though the wire clutter is a bit annoying. Not big on bass though if that's your thing.
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Post by malgato on Nov 27, 2015 17:09:21 GMT -5
Those Sennhys will go well with a MixAmp and a ModMic, though the wire clutter is a bit annoying. Not big on bass though if that's your thing. What will be my results if I just plug the cans and mod mic into my Xbone controller with a y-splitter?
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Post by Slick on Nov 27, 2015 17:42:26 GMT -5
Those Sennhys will go well with a MixAmp and a ModMic, though the wire clutter is a bit annoying. Not big on bass though if that's your thing. What will be my results if I just plug the cans and mod mic into my Xbone controller with a y-splitter? It works surprisingly well on the Xbox One, though you can't get it as loud as you could with the mixamp. The sound quality is good, no distortion. You can soundwhore very well on BO3; it seems the controller has enough power to drive my sennheiser pc360. That's what I've been doing since the $10 adapter I got didn't fit for my 2.5 mm male chat cable. It will eat your controller battery for lunch though, I would strongly recommend using a wired controller with this route. One warning though about the modmic. When I mounted it on the right side next to the volume control wheel, sound was bleeding into the microphone. I had to remount it on top of my dead pc360 microphone to largely eliminate this issue. I mounted it on top of the base, not the mic wand. I'm not sure if this modmic is a good solution for open headsets, which is strange since open headsets are superior for sound production/soundwhoring because of the larger soundstage. Also, if you hate wires, you probably won't like it. Cable management is a task I'm willing to deal with though because wired everything master race.
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Post by illram on Nov 27, 2015 17:42:34 GMT -5
So I did a little bit of reading before buying those sennheisers and people were saying that unlike some other higher end headphones, it's not a huge loss if you don't run a headphone amp with these. And yeah don't expect big artificial bass.
People were saying they had good sound even just from an mp3 player using the included headphone jack adapter. And for a $100, it's worth a try to see if I can even really tell the difference. From what I can tell they have never been this cheap.
I have no idea how they would do coming out of the xbox controller, my guess is no worse than just sticking it in your phone.
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