Upcoming patch changes, v.2

[rudybojangles]

So it doesn't get lost in the fray of the last thread, here are fixes (not weapon changes for the most part)

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GENERAL GAMEPLAY FIXES:

-Players should no longer take fall damage from short falls.
-Players now get up from Prone slightly faster, allowing better odds of getting away from a grenade or threat when prone.
-Fixed some situations that would unintentionally make a player unrevivable.
-Reduced the black screen fade in time on spawn. The fade is still necessary for properly streaming in loading content at spawn, but it has been substantially reduced.
-Increased the spawn protection time from 1sec to 2sec. The protection will still be immediately canceled as soon as the player moves or shoots.
-Spawn protection will no longer be canceled by the player looking around.
-Increased the speed at which a player regains accuracy when aiming after moving for a more responsive experience. Firing before fully zoomed will still result inaccurate fire.
-Increased the inaccuracy and recoil added when a player is fully suppressed.
-Shotgun Buck and Flechette rounds now have a less suppressive effect at medium to long range.
-Tweaked the damage levels of Buck and Flechette rounds to balance them with other weapons.
-Improved the suppression of the .44 magnum, .357 magnum, and the 5.8x42mm DAP88 rounds from the Type88 sniper.
-Attempting to Crouch (like Prone) will now properly interrupt Sprint.
-Increased the effectiveness of Suppression Resist Specialization.
-Parachutes now respond to turn and throttle inputs more quickly.
-Switching from primary weapons to sidearms and back now takes less time.
-Increased the effectiveness of explosive resistance.
-Tweaked bipod deploy settings so players can no longer deploy a bipod in places higher than chin level.
-The bipod should now be more reliable when deploying on top of sloped objects like cars and rocks.
-Fixed several issues with vaulting objects, especially for thin railings.
-The Knife now only takes two swipes to kill when attacking from a position where a takedown is not possible.
-CRAM weapons on Carriers now count towards stationary weapon awards.

VEHICLE FIXES:


-The A10 properly gives Jet score again.
-Unguided tank rounds and RPGs will now instantly destroy Jets, Attack Helicopters, and Scout Helicopters.
-Increased the damage the MBT's primary weapon does to the front and side armor of other main battle tanks. Primarily this means 1 less shot to the front, and very good hits to the side can result in a 1 hit to disable.
-Slightly reduced the repair speed of the repair tool.
-Increased the damage done by TOW weapons to armored vehicles.
-Increased the rate of fire and minimum damage of the Coax HMG.
-Increased the damage mounted gunner .50cal HMGs do at long range.
-Increased the power of the repair tool when killing soldiers or destroying vehicles slightly.
-Fixed a problem when locking on to two nearby targets, the locking should no longer jump rapidly between multiple targets. This applies to all locking weapons and Laser Designators.
-Increased the damage of the Javelin and Air to Ground missiles against laser designated targets.
-Javelin missiles fired without Laser targeting now do more damage to the side and rear of MBTs.
-Slightly reduced the locking time of all weapons vs Laser Designated targets.
-Laser Guided missiles can now be distracted by Flares.
-Increased the locking distance for AGM Missiles for Jets when locking on laser designated targets.
-Reduced the locking time for the AGM Missiles for Jets to make them more viable against ground targets.
-Reduced the locking time for AA Missiles for Jets to make them more viable against air targets.
-Flares will no longer break the lock of a vehicle that is locked on, it will only distract the missiles.
-Flares now more reliably distract missiles, especially for Helicopters.
-Flares for Jets and Choppers now reload at 11 seconds again, except for the gunner, which remains unchanged at 20sec.
-AA Missiles are more difficult to dodge in Jets, this was unintended behavior that created an imbalance against skilled pilots.
-AA Missiles should no longer kill the pilot instead of the vehicle.
-AA Missiles should no longer detonate before hitting their target or a Flare/ECM chaff cloud.
-Reduced the damage AA missiles do to jets to 45%.
-Fixed the SU-35 firing Air to Air missiles at a lower rate of fire than other vehicles.
-The IGLA and Stinger now lock on much more quickly and disable an attack aircraft in 1 hit, but have significantly reduced range. This should allow Stingers to mount an effective close range point defense, without dominating an entire airspace.
-Increased the speed of the Helicopter AA missiles lock on to reduce the tedious nature of Helicopter dogfights and improve the Helicopter's defensive abilities vs Jets.
-Slightly reduced the damage of Jet cannons against Aircraft. Damage is now only slightly higher than it was originally at launch.
-Increased RPG and SMAW damage against aircraft.
-Guided Rockets will now only track ground targets, as originally intended.
-Reduced the direct damage done by Attack Helicopter gunners vs Armor.
-Helicopter guns should now suppress correctly.
-Improved the accuracy of the Attack Helicopter's Rocket Pods, both guided and unguided.
-Slightly increased the damage of Attack Helicopter's Rocket Pods vs Infantry and other Helicopters.
-Additional fixes have been made to the TV missile to prevent it from blowing up the lauching vehicle.
-The Mi28 has received upgrades to its climbing and yawing abilities.
-Fixed an issue where guided rockets from the Mi28 did not follow the crosshair properly.
-Improved the accuracy of the Mi28 gun to match the AH1 gun.
-Increased the direct hit damage of the APFSDS rounds for the IFVs.
-Decreased the locking time of the IFV Guided Missile to make it more viable as an unlock.
-Miniguns and Helicopter Gunners now more quickly destroy parked cars.
-Increased the power of explosions from cars and other explosive static objects.
-Dying from the explosion of a car or other explosive static object should now correctly credit the player who caused the explosion.
-Adjusted the F35's Center of Mass and Hover Engine for more stable, level flight in all flight modes.
-Updated the F35 weapon systems to be consistent with the other Jets.
-The F35 will now only attempt to enter Hover at low altitudes, though it will maintain the hover until forward flight is resumed, even if it reaches high altitude.
-The F35 and SU35 now properly have Ejection seats to prevent players from being killed when exiting the vehicle.
-Changed the Kornets to TOW launchers on Wake Island and moved the spawn position of the AAV to a more level position.
-Fixed several bugs with air vehicles colliding with objects at high speeds and taking no damage.
-Players will no longer receive suicides or team kills if they crash their vehicle (dying is punishment enough).
-The MAV will no longer destroy vehicles that run into it, instead it should be destroyed.
-Jet and Helicopter collisions should now properly result in the death of both vehicles.
-You can now spot with the EOD bot.
-Increased the base accuracy for AA guns and added a decrease in accuracy over the course of a burst.
-Reduced the damage AA guns (both mobile and stationary) do to infantry.
-The carrier based CRAM stations are now properly tracked as stationary weapons.
-CRAM and Pantsir stationary AA weapons now have Air Radar equipped by default.
-Improved the sound feedback for damage to help players better understand the amount of damage their vehicle is taking.
-The A10's extinguisher should now function properly.
-Disabled vehicles now have an increased reverse speed to help escape to cover after being disabled.
-The T90's crosshair now more accurately represents the trajectory of the main gun.
-Toggle and Hold zoom settings now also apply to soldier controlled turrets on jeeps, transport helicopters, boats, and IFVs port guns.
-The AAV now has zoom and a 3P camera when using the turret.
-Tweaked the AAV's turret controls to be more useful when the vehicle is moving.
-The Z11w now properly functions with Below Radar.
-Below Radar will now also prevent the lock on of Stinger and IGLA missiles.
-Added Horns to all Jeeps.
-Tanks can no longer drive into the water and cross the Wake Island lagoon completely submerged.


WEAPONS:

-Added Extended Mags to the ASVAL. The Extended Mags can be unlocked at 200 kills with the AS VAL.
-Reduced the recoil of the SKS rifle and increased its maximum damage at close range.
-Fixed aimed firing max accuracy on the Pecheneg to be consistent with other LMGs.
-Semiautomatic and automatic shotguns firing FRAG rounds now do slightly less splash damage.
-The M26 MASS frag and slug rounds are now the more effective pump action versions.
-The M26 MASS and M320 now benefit from the Laser Sight when mounted with an Underslung Rail.
-Fixed the bolt action timer on the L96 that would cause an animation glitch.
-9x39mm rounds no longer benefit from the Sniper headshot bonus.
-Increased the damage of the 9x39mm rounds at long range.
-Fixed the AKS74u damage at max range, it was incorrectly higher than other carbines.
-Increased the damage of the .357 and .44 magnum rounds at max range.
-All semiautomatic and bolt weapons, including all shotgun slugs, now have their maximum damage out to 15m.
-Semiautomatic weapons will no longer "jam" if the player presses fire faster than the weapon is capable of shooting. Some semi-automatic weapons have had their rates of fire adjusted to fit this change.
-Bolt action sniper rounds now have a chance to kill at close range if the player is hit in the upper chest.
-Semiautomatic sniper rifles, Assault Rifles, LMGs, and shotgun slugs now have more consistent damage over long range. At maximum range shots to the legs will not require more hits to kill.
-The spread for Flechette rounds has been reduced slightly on all shotguns.
-The spread for Buckshot has been reduced on the M1014, DAO-12, and S12k. These weapons have an accuracy advantage over the USAS12 but are not as accurate as the 870.
-Zooming shotguns with Buckshot and Flechette loads will now result in a slightly tighter cone for the pellets.
-Reduced the delay time between quick knife attempts slightly. Attacks with the knife drawn are still significantly faster.
-Fixed the Rate of Fire when the USAS and MK3A1 are equipped with FRAG rounds. All other shotguns correctly had a reduced rate of fire with frags, except the USAS and MK3A1.
-Fixed an Accuracy bug when the MK3A1 shotgun is equipped with FRAG or Slug rounds.
-Shotguns equipped with slugs will no longer automatically begin reloading if the weapon is zoomed when the clip is empty. This allows players to see where the slug lands before reloading.
-Fixed 12g FRAG rounds not breaking glass at long range.
-Players can now earn the shotgun Ribbon using the M26 MASS.
-The underslung grenade launchers for Russian rifles now properly report GP30 in the kill log.
-Fixed the AEK971 40mm shotgun round listing itself as FRAG in the kill log.
-Fixed the 40mm smoke grenade so it no longer passes through soldiers and unbroken objects before it detonates.



Several weapons have had recoil or accuracy adjusted in orer to balance these weapons in effectiveness and also increase the feeling of individuality in each gun


effectiveness and also increase the feeling of individuality in each gun.
M27 IAR: No change. The M27 is a heavier version of the M416, giving it good all-around performance though it has worse performance on the move.
RPK-74M: Reduced the initial recoil and vertical recoil. The RPK-74M is a more stable firing platform than the comparable M27, though it lacks the M27's higher rate of fire.
M249: Added an initial recoil. The M249 is the fastest firing belt fed LMG, giving it superior suppressive and damage abilities. The initial recoil makes it a bit harder to run and gun, while making little overall impact on performance.
Type-88: Slightly increased the initial recoil, reduced muzzle drift. The Type88 fires the slowest of the medium caliber LMGs, though what it lacks in rate of fire it makes up for in controllability.
PKP: Reduced recoil but added a slight initial recoil, increased damage at max range. The Pecheneg has a heavy vertical recoil with a hard hitting round and little drift, this makes it excellent at sustained fire.
M60: Reduced the initial recoil, increased damage at all ranges. The M60 has a very low rate of fire that makes it the most controllable with the powerful 7.62x51mm round.
M240B: Added an initial recoil, increased damage at all ranges. The fastest firing medium MG, the M240 has a substantial muzzle kick and drift that makes all that power difficult to control.
QBB-95: Reduced the total recoil but increased muzzle drift and initial recoil. The QBB-95 should now kick harder but settle into full auto fire better, combined with the bullpup hip fire bonus this makes the QBB-95 a highly mobile LMG.
MG36: Added an initial recoil. The MG36 fires at a fast 750rpm and makes a nice middle ground between the controllability of a clip LMG and the sustained firepower of a belt fed LMG.

870: No change. The 870 is a popular and highly effective weapon.
DAO-12: Reduced the total pellets fired from 12 to 9. The DAO-12 has a high magazine capacity with a slow reload that makes it a solid all around shotgun.
M1014: Increased the rate of fire from 200 max to 210 max. Reduced the total pellets fired from 12 to 9. The M1014 was underperforming compared to the USAS12 and 870, it should now be more viable in CQB thanks to a higher rate of fire.
S12k: Increased extended mag from 8 rounds to 10 rounds. Reduced the total pellets fired from 12 to 9. The S12k larger extended magazine but slower rate of fire should make it stand out against the M1014, while the DAO-12 has a higher capacity over all, but a slowe reload.
MK3A1: Increased magazine capacity to 8 and 12 for normal and extended mag respectively. Reduced the total pellets fired from 12 to 9. The MK3A1 has a lower ROF than the USAS12, giving it slightly more ammo makes this an edge vs the USAS.
USAS-12: Increased the initial recoil. Reduced the total pellets fired from 12 to 9. The USAS 12 has a higher ROF than other shotguns, this recoil change better balances that advantage and the pellets balance its damage output.

M4A1: No Change. Well-rounded carbine, with good rate of fire and controllable recoil.
M4: Increased vertical recoil, reduced horizontal recoil. The Burst only M4 should now feel different to its automatic sibling, the reduced horizontal recoil emphasizes the greater control you have in burst fire.
AKS-74U: Reduced initial recoil and vertical recoil. The AKS-74u's low rate of fire is paired with great controllability. The overall increase in sustained fire control should help this carbine stand out, while the first kick gives it character.
SG553: Reduced initial recoil and vertical recoil. The SG553 is a lower rate of fire carbine with greater controllability than the G36C. The change to initial recoil should better highlight this difference.
A91: No Change. The A91's high rate of fire and bullpup from the hip accuracy is offset by a poor controllability on full auto.
G36C: Reduced initial recoil. The G36C is a well-rounded carbine, with a medium rate of fire and a medium recoil. The 2 round burst mode gives this weapon an edge at mid-range.
SCAR-H: Increased damage at maximum range and increased max range. The SCAR-H fires a heavier round than all other carbines, giving it better stopping power at range at the cost of a low fire rate that penalizes it in CQB.
G53: Reduced recoil and drift, recoil settle times now similar to other carbines. The HK53 is a short carbine with a lot of initial kick but a stable recoil pattern and a medium rate of fire. The changes give it more character compared to the G36.
QBZ-95B: Reduced muzzle sway, recoil settle times now similar to other carbines. A bullpup like the A91, the QBZ-95B is steady on the move with a lower rate of fire for controllable shots at longer range. The built in foregrip is now properly reflected in the weapon's stats.

AK-74M: Reduced initial recoil and vertical recoil. The AK-74M sacrifices rate of fire for controllable automatic fire, the initial recoil was negatively affecting the feeling of controllability.
M16A3: No Change. The M16 (both A3 and A4) provide a well-rounded stable firing platform with a high rate of fire that is relatively controllable.
M16A4: Increased vertical recoil, reduced horizontal recoil. The Burst only M16A4 should now feel different to its automatic sibling, the reduced horizontal recoil emphasizes the greater control you have in burst fire.
M416: No change. The M416 is the middle ground AR, blending a medium recoil and rate of fire.
AEK-971: Increased initial recoil, reduced aimed accuracy slightly. The AEK has a very high rate of fire, and also a large muzzle drift that makes control difficult. The low initial recoil allowed a player to kill before the weapon's weaknesses kicked in while the reduced accuracy highlights its close range role.
F2000: Reduced vertical recoil, increased zoomed accuracy slightly. As a bullpup, the F2000 has a bonus to accuracy on the move and from the hip while its high rate of fire sacrifices controllability for saturation. The previous changes were an overreaction, this is a corrective update.
AN94: Reduced vertical recoil. The AN94's 2 round burst mode is incredibly accurate, but it suffers from a low rate of fire on fully automatic. The recoil in full auto has been reduced somewhat to offset this penalty and make the AN94 more attractive.
G3A3: Increased damage at all ranges, reduced vertical recoil. The G3A3's heavy recoil and heavy round are offset by a low rate of fire and a small magazine. The G3A3 was clearly outclassed at all ranges.
KH2002: No Change. The KH2002 is locked to burst fire, with a high rate of fire and a large muzzle drift the weapon favors accurate mid-range fire.
L85A2: Increased accuracy, reduced muzzle drift. The L85 differs from other bullpup style ARs by having a low rate of fire, the accuracy and controllability were too low to offset the rate of fire.
FAMAS: The FAMAS combines an extreme rate of fire with extreme recoil making it very difficult to use at anything other than close quarters combat. Due to update restrictions, the FAMAS had different stats on all 3 platforms. The FAMAS is now uniform on all platforms and now has the correct 25 round magazine.

PP2000: Reduced the initial recoil. The PP2000 has a lower ROF than other PDWs and needed the controllability to be balanced.
UMP45: Reduced accuracy loss during full auto. The UMP45 hits hard and has a controllable recoil at the cost of a heavy initial recoil kick.
MP7: No Change. The MP7 has a very low recoil and a high muzzle drift that favors longer bursts than the P90.
AS VAL: Increased vertical recoil, reduced first shot recoil, reduced accuracy on the move. The AS VAL fires a long range, highly accurate, high damage projectile that favors short bursts or single fire when stationary. While still quite good from the hip, the AS VAL will suffer if fired while moving and aimed.
PDW-R: Reduced the initial recoil. The PDW-R has high recoil and favors burst fire, the added initial recoil was making it less effective in small bursts.
P90: Reduced the initial recoil. The P90 favors a run and gun play style using long bursts to control muzzle drift, the initial recoil was making bursting ineffective.
PP-19: Slightly reduced the initial recoil when firing, increased base damage. The PP-19's high initial recoil was over penalizing the burst fire needed to be effective on the low damage, high capacity weapon.



WEAPON ACCESSORIES:


SCOPES:


-Fixed the 7x scope not zooming to the full 7x on all weapons.
-Corrected the M39's laser sight so it points at the point of impact and aligns with scopes when zoomed.
-Fixed a misaligned scope crosshair on the G3A3 using the Rifle Scope 6x.
-Fixed the PKA and PKA-S scopes on the M416 having swapped zoom levels.
-The L96 Straight Pull bolt now functions properly.
-The L96 ironsights have been adjusted for a clearer aiming picture and correct use of the integral front sight.
-The L96 now properly shows scope glint when using the 8x, and 12x scopes.
-Tweaked IRNV to be more consistent across all levels.
-Fixed a rendering issue with IRNV view when taking damage.
-Tweaked the IRNV zoom times and scope visible areas to be the same across all weapons (some were faster than others).
-Fixed the QBU-88 sniper and the L96 IRNV scopes to use the proper sniper reticule

BIPOD:


-The Accuracy increase and Recoil reduction of the Bipod has been significantly improved for Assault Rifles and Carbines.
-The Bipod now provides similar Accuracy and Recoil benefits no matter if the weapon is fired while aiming or without aiming for all weapons. Previously only LMGs were worked this way. This especially improves the speed at which snipers can make follow up shots, and also allows effective unaimed suppressive fire with Assault Rifles and Carbines.
-Increased the Speed at which a bipod is deployed, allowing the user to obtain the bipod's bonus sooner after the deploy has started and allowing the weapon to be aimed in a far shorter time. The speed has been increased 40-50%, depending on the weapon and animation.


HEAVY BARREL:

-The Vertical Recoil penalty of the Heavy Barrel has been reduced. The value has been changed from a global percent increase to a weapon specific value.
-A small Hip Accuracy penalty has been added to the Heavy Barrel to represent the added weight of the accessory, as well as focus the attachment on accurate mid and long range fire. The exact penalty amount is a weapon specific value.
-Several weapons with low default bullet speed now have their bullet speed increased when the Heavy Barrel is equipped. This is in effect for the A91, G3A3, AKS-74u, G36C, M4A1, SCAR-H, SG553, G53, and QBZ-95B.
-The Heavy Barrel is now also paired with Match Rounds which increase the maximum range of the weapon. The minimum and maximum damage are unchanged, weapons with the Heavy Barrel will be more effective in mid range.
-The Aimed Accuracy bonus provided by the Heavy Barrel has been increased. This will increase the effectiveness of the Heavy Barrel for small bursts, as originally intended.


IRNV FIXES:

-Tweaked IRNV to be more consistent across all levels.
-Fixed a rendering issue with IRNV view when taking damage.
-Tweaked the IRNV zoom times and scope visible areas to be the same across all weapons (some were faster than others).
-Fixed the QBU-88 sniper and the L96 IRNV scopes to use the proper sniper reticule.


FOREGRIP:


-The Horizontal Sway reduction has been changed from a global percent reduction to a weapon specific value reduction. For most guns this means very little change, for guns which have a large horizontal recoil the change is more substation. The FAMAS, F2000, and AEK971 are most effected, the AK-74, M16, and M416 are nearly unchanged.
-A small long range Aimed Accuracy penalty has been added to the foregrip. Players who generally find themselves fighting at mid to long range may want to change their accessory, while players fighting in CQB will go largely unaffected. Combining the Foregrip with a Silencer or a Heavy Barrel will offset this penalty.


LASER SIGHT:


-The Hip Accuracy bonus provided by the Laser Sight has been increased. Some PDWs have had their crouch and prone base stats adjusted to prevent hip firing being more accurate than aimed fire when using a laser sight.
-The bonus is now a weapon specific value instead of a global percentage, some guns receive larger or smaller bonuses, though all bonuses are better than they were previously.


SUPPRESSOR:


-The Suppressor no longer reduces the maximum damage of a weapon when equipped. Instead the Suppressor reduces the minimum and maximum range of the weapon, making it ideal for CQB and Stealth. This change will make the Suppressor slightly more effective at long range, where the bullet drop and speed makes shots difficult already, and reduces the power of the suppressor at mid range slightly.
-The Suppressor's recoil bonus remains unchanged at a global 10% decrease. This is less than the Flash Suppressor's bonus for all weapons.
-The Hip Accuracy penalty of the Suppressor has been changed from a global percentage to a per weapon value. Generally this penalty is higher now, but not for all weapons. Specifically, the belt LMGs and bolt Snipers do not have any additional hip fire penalty, as their penalty is already at the maximum possible value.
-Reduced the Aimed Accuracy bonus of the Suppressor from 50% to 25%. A Suppressor and Foregrip combo will have similar accuracy to a weapon without any Accessories, at the penalty of worse Hip Fire Accuracy and Range and with the benefit of much improved Stealth and reduced Recoil.



FLASH SUPPRESSOR:

-The Flash Suppressor no longer reduces accuracy for Automatic Fire.
-The Flash Suppressor now also works as a recoil compensator, reducing the Vertical Recoil by a weapon specific value. This bonus is larger than the bonus provided by the Suppressor.
-A small Hip Accuracy penalty has been added to the Flash Suppressor to represent the added weight of the accessory. The exact penalty amount is a weapon specific value.


GADGETS:


-Reduced the spot times on C4 and Claymore projectiles from 30 to 15 sec.
-Tweaked the controls and physics for the EOD bot to improve its handling and aiming capabilities.
-The Radio Beacon, Mortar, MAV, EOD bot, T-UGS, and SOFLAM should now be much easier to deploy.
-The MAV will now be destroyed when running into a soldier or vehicle at high speed. It is still possible to strategically sacrifice your MAV on a soldier; it will be destroyed in the process.
-The MAV now properly shows up in the Kill Feed. Previously it simply displayed "KILLED."
-The MAV can no longer be used as an elevator.
-Matched the motion sensor sweep frequency and range on the MAV to the TUGS.
-Players will no longer auto enter SOFLAM, MAV, and EOD bots after they are deployed.
-Players may now use their knife to destroy enemy equipment.
-C4 will no longer be detonable after a player respawns, if the player is revived within 5 seconds he can still detonate his C4.
-The player may now have a maximum number of mines which will persist after the player's death. Deploying more than the maximum of 6 mines will remove a previous mine from the world.
-Claymores now live up to 5 seconds after a player dies, the player can have a max 2 claymores planted at the same time.
-Claymores can now detonate from vehicles and can be used to disable jeeps or kill the passengers in light jeeps. Claymores will not do any damage to heavy vehicles.
-Ammobags now stay until the user redeploys them like Medkits.
-Ammobags resupply bullets more quickly, but explosives resupply more slowly, especially 40mm grenades.
-Slightly reduced the effective blast radius of the RPG, SMAW, and 40mm grenade projectiles against infantry.
-Reduced the total number of RPG and SMAW missiles carried from 5 to 4. Players desiring more rockets will want to use the Explosive spec.
-Slightly increased the heal rate of the Medical Crate.
-The MAV now will also descend by pressing the Crouch Toggle key. (PC)
-The M224 Mortar can no longer be deployed in an area that is out of combat for another team like a home base or other protected spawn.
-Tweaked M224 exit points so the player faces in the direction of the mortar when he exits.
-Mines, Claymores, C4 and other deployable items will now only appear on the minimap when spotted by a teammate.


TEAM DEATHMATCH

-Fixed a bug where players would spawn close to the enemy team at the start of the round.
-Tehran Highway playable area has been doubled and is now the same as the Squad Deathmatch set up. Spawn points have been tweaked, and an extra spawn zone has been added north of the footbridge.
-Kharg Island has a new spawn zone layout, along with a bigger playable area and new cover objects. Spawn points have also been tweaked.
-Strike at Karkand spawns zones have been tweaked to improve player flow. Spawn points have been tweaked to improve safety upon spawning.
-Sharqi Peninsula spawn zones have been adjusted to optimize player movement. Spawn points have been tweaked so players spawn more safely.
-Seine Crossing spawn zone set up has been improved. There is a new spawn zone by the alleyway to the northwest with additional spawn points.
-Caspain Border spawn zones have been tweaked slightly.



SQUAD DEATHMATCH

-Fixed a bug where players would spawn close to the enemy team at the start of the round.
-Damavand Peak layout and spawn zones have been tightened to reduce the spread of players across the map
-Tehran Highway now features an extra spawn zone north of the footbridge, along with tweaked spawn points.
-Noshahr Canals spawn zones have been tweaked. Removed unsafe spawn points in the Northeast corner, and in the middle of the container area to the Southwest.

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Great Things:

-Switching from primary weapons to sidearms and back now takes less time.
-Fixed several issues with vaulting objects, especially for thin railings.
-Unguided tank rounds and RPGs will now instantly destroy Jets, Attack Helicopters, and Scout Helicopters.
-Increased the damage done by TOW weapons to armored vehicles.
-Javelin missiles fired without Laser targeting now do more damage to the side and rear of MBTs.
-Flares will no longer break the lock of a vehicle that is locked on, it will only distract the missiles.
-AA Missiles should no longer kill the pilot instead of the vehicle.
-AA Missiles should no longer detonate before hitting their target or a Flare/ECM chaff cloud.
-Reduced the damage AA missiles do to jets to 45%.
-The IGLA and Stinger now lock on much more quickly and disable an attack aircraft in 1 hit, but have significantly reduced range. This should allow Stingers to mount an effective close range point defense, without dominating an entire airspace.
-Increased RPG and SMAW damage against aircraft.
-The Mi28 has received upgrades to its climbing and yawing abilities.
-Adjusted the F35's Center of Mass and Hover Engine for more stable, level flight in all flight modes.
-The F35 will now only attempt to enter Hover at low altitudes, though it will maintain the hover until forward flight is resumed, even if it reaches high altitude.
-The MAV will no longer destroy vehicles that run into it, instead it should be destroyed.
-Reduced the damage AA guns (both mobile and stationary) do to infantry.

-Corrected the M39's laser sight so it points at the point of impact and aligns with scopes when zoomed. (???????????????)

-Several weapons with low default bullet speed now have their bullet speed increased when the Heavy Barrel is equipped. This is in effect for the A91, G3A3, AKS-74u, G36C, M4A1, SCAR-H, SG553, G53, and QBZ-95B. (!!!!!!!!!!)
-The Heavy Barrel is now also paired with Match Rounds which increase the maximum range of the weapon. The minimum and maximum damage are unchanged, weapons with the Heavy Barrel will be more effective in mid range.
-The Aimed Accuracy bonus provided by the Heavy Barrel has been increased. This will increase the effectiveness of the Heavy Barrel for small bursts, as originally intended.

HBAR is sexy!

-The Hip Accuracy bonus provided by the Laser Sight has been increased. Some PDWs have had their crouch and prone base stats adjusted to prevent hip firing being more accurate than aimed fire when using a laser sight. (I knew this is what they were getting at, I swear!)
-The Suppressor no longer reduces the maximum damage of a weapon when equipped. Instead the Suppressor reduces the minimum and maximum range of the weapon, making it ideal for CQB and Stealth. This change will make the Suppressor slightly more effective at long range, where the bullet drop and speed makes shots difficult already, and reduces the power of the suppressor at mid range slightly. (YAY)
-The MAV will now be destroyed when running into a soldier or vehicle at high speed. It is still possible to strategically sacrifice your MAV on a soldier; it will be destroyed in the process. (mixed emotions)
-The MAV can no longer be used as an elevator.
-Claymores now live up to 5 seconds after a player dies, the player can have a max 2 claymores planted at the same time.
-Claymores can now detonate from vehicles and can be used to disable jeeps or kill the passengers in light jeeps. Claymores will not do any damage to heavy vehicles. (SUPERYAY)
-Ammobags resupply bullets more quickly, but explosives resupply more slowly, especially 40mm grenades. (Only really matters if they nerf the grenade perk giving tons of starting M320s)
-Slightly reduced the effective blast radius of the RPG, SMAW, and 40mm grenade projectiles against infantry.
-The M224 Mortar can no longer be deployed in an area that is out of combat for another team like a home base or other protected spawn. (FoxtrotYEA)

Overall happy, let's see if they get gun balance closer to right this time.

[tiesieman]

-The Hip Accuracy bonus provided by the Laser Sight has been increased. Some PDWs have had their crouch and prone base stats adjusted to prevent hip firing being more accurate than aimed fire when using a laser sight.

So those pdw nerfs weren't random at all. And that nerf has already been undone. I think demize might have done this especially for you

The whole list contains things that are great, except those changes to spawning (it was annoying in BC2, why bring it back?), and those shotgun changes. Unless they're changing the size of spreads, they're only being taken from while they probably should've been given stuff

Also, under bipods I don't see LMG accuracy listed. I saw some spread plots of a bipod M240 and it was a laser at 150 metres. I hope that's still in

[didjeridu]

Hey guys, lets not only make buckshot and flechette weaker, but lets make all non-870 shotguns fire less pellets too! And lets pretend the M1014 got a real buff that makes it a viable choice! Seriously...what the hell. What. The. Hell. If that semi-auto fix doesn't work, or if they haven't reverted buckshot/flechette back to standard values, then...RIP shotguns. At least they slightly care about the M26, but no mention of being able to mount it on every mountable AR.

Now that I got that out of the way, the patch looks good overall. Just a few more notes/nitpicks though. I don't know if symthic updated his notes, so I'm just going by previous knowledge and what DICE says:

-I can't stand the AK family turning into the laser family. It rubs me all kinds of wrong. I need power. I don't want ACRs.

-They claim to give the G53 more character by removing its higher recovery. Huh? They do the same thing to the QBZ, but at least it actually has unique qualities. The G53 sounds plain as plain can be now, and the M4A1 is still king.

-F2000 sounds like it surpasses the AEK now, if only slightly. I'd take the extra hipfire/moving accuracy in exchange for 50 RPM anyday.

-Looks like the AN94 is staying about the same. Good.

-25 round FAMAS. 25 rounds, 1000 RPM, and a slow ass reload. I will never touch it again. No tears shed though. Super-high RPM isn't my thing, and the FAMAS is...French.

-Less recoil for PP2000. Most pointless buff ever (aside from 10 RPM M1014...). Still, if it retains 12.5 min, then it's no longer crap. In fact, it's pretty good provided you don't run and gun too hard.

-UMP, another pointless buff. It already had pretty good auto accuracy. Raising it higher won't do anything: especially if its closest relative, the PP2000, goes from outclassing it to stomping it into the dirt.

-Higher bipod speed...whatever. Still needs a downside if it has a seperate deploy binding.

-HBAR boosts weapon speed for low velocity weapons. Cool. Wait...M4A1? QBZ? Are they on crack?

-Foregrip penalty is long range only...yeah right. Oh well, no sense complaining about this over and over. I'll just use a bipod since it has no penalty. I wonder how long it will take DICE to figure that out.

-FS is pretty neat. It's now my go-to 3rd slot attachment.

-Infinite bullet ammo boxes. Neat I guess.

-I already had MAV descend on crouch...

-No love for TUGS. At least the MAV explodes half the time. In fact, I'm afraid that if I bump into a wall while trying to go through a hole/doorway, I'll lose my MAV. I just...ugh. I'll use the MAV still, but they better have fixed the bug where I spawn with no MAV.

-Mortar users have to be slightly less of a coward now.

-No more C4 detonate on spawn. I am extremely saddened. At least claymore guys get screwed too, the cats.

Edit: Forgot to mention spawns. I love the new spawn invulnerability. For whatever reason, my game lags out when I spawn, so I have 3-4 seconds before I can think about moving. At least now I'll get slightly less spawn deaths. Seriously, a lot of my deaths are from spawns. It's so frustrating.

And heh...cats. Cats. CATS.

[tiesieman]

Feb 23, 2012 17:25:34 GMT -5 didjeridu said:

-HBAR boosts weapon speed for low velocity weapons. Cool. Wait...M4A1? QBZ? Are they on crack?

After seeing those shotgun changes, not unlikely

[rubionubio]

That is such a massive list of changes. Wow, much respect for them for taking on that much work, although I do wish that they had been a little more vocal about that being in the works so that the console players in particular weren't left thinking they were being ignored (I'm PC but I know how that feels from playing Black Ops).

[raxcoswell]

Well, idk if you're the kind of lamewad like me who sits at work checking twitter on yr phone under yr desk all day, but battlefieldo and drmb (who iirc have combined and are the two/one biggest battlefield 'community' site/s) wrote some tweet up complaining about the total lack of communication, "BF3 Blackout" or w/e, and essentially demanded action. They got personal responses from zhinto and stormonster etc and the posting of this stuff is a direct response to that (like the battlefieldo tweet came out in the evening, and it was put up midday the next day).

So although they were v candid and sincerely apologetic, and did move to address the complaint and whatever, they were only prompted in to being vocal at all by the big community boys making a big stink about it on twitter. And w/this extra information we can see that we aren't significantly closer to a patch than we were yesterday, they just felt compelled to talk about what they were doing.


Anyway, surprises:

Pistol swap time - this seems like a pretty significant change to me. How much it will actually effect stuff I'm unsure about, but to me at face value this is a pretty big run+gun buff. I for one am totally in favour of it, just seems like a potentially big change that came out of nowhere.
Also, sniper chest OHK hitbox + this = total return to viability for sniper rifles at close ranges?

Decreased fall damage, faster running from prone, stronger knife, increased accuracy recovery after sprinting - bit more run+gun boost, but also just a general push to make the game a lot more dynamic? Basically it seems like 'moving' is being buffed here. Again, good call imo.

Stingers - stinger + flare change is a great call, seems like they've found a way to save what seemed like a doomed gadget.

Laser sight - I already use this on most weapons. Is it going to be ridiculously good now? I know rudy and me aren't the only hipfire henrys on the scene. Another big boost for run+gun dynamic play. But with all the attachment retweaks, the increased effectiveness of the laser sight coupled with it's extremely mild downside could mean we see an awful fkkn lot of these things. Also I guess that M39 comment means that whoever was talking about the laser pointing to the point of impact was dead on.

AAV turret tweak - boo. I will miss the Amtrac being a hilariously unwieldy mobile block, and having to shout at my driver to turn right when I want to shoot something on the right because the fkkn turret turns slower than the hull.

Disabled vehicles getting increased reversing speed - boo. Is anyone psyched when they shoot a vehicle for 2 hours and never kill it? Did this top online polls of favourite battlefield experiences? Dedicated engi-gangs who really want to keep vehicles alive will gladly blowtorch them whilst they get shot at and shells explode around them. After all the changes making infantry play seemingly more dynamic, this seems to throw a little stasis on vehicle world. Or maybe just a few 'vehicle destroyed's without any kills attached. Either way, don't think this is a particularly wild idea. Also leaping out of an exploding tank and making it to cover under rad-unfriendly gunfire is one of my favourite things to do. Don't wanna do it round the corner where no one can see how amazing I was.

No auto-enter for Soflam/Mav/EOD is a good call. Laser benefitting underslungs is nice too. Whether or not it's rly enough of a boon to justify doing it over taking a grip or w/e remains to be seen, but M26 DART with laser would be pretty meaty, and would go nicely with a more long-range AR that wouldn't want grip anyway and would need the cqc help. Also anyone reading this stuff feel like the G3 might be amazing?
Overall, much much changes. Reminded me of a bunch of stuff I forgot was even broken. So yeah, there was/is a lot of broken stuff in this game, but at least they are aware of it all and seemingly being thorough about fixing it.

[kirbyderby]

No more invincible MAV rampages or total PKP spraydowns? :[

I guess it's for the best, but man, it's hard giving it up. But on the bright side, now I can have Tank snipes on random helis.

HORNS FOR MAH JEEPS

[rubionubio]

I'm definitely planning on rolling a G3 with an under-barrel shotty and HBar. Semi-auto for lyfe.

[saddaminsane]

-Below Radar will now also prevent the lock on of Stinger and IGLA missiles.
-Added Horns to all Jeeps.
jizz

[didjeridu]

Feb 24, 2012 8:18:28 GMT -5 rubionubio said:

I'm definitely planning on rolling a G3 with an under-barrel shotty and HBar. Semi-auto for lyfe.

G3 + 4x + M26 + HBAR = sexy time. I was cheating on the G3 with the AN-94, but I hope she'll take me back.

[rubionubio]

I'm sure she will, she's pretty reasonable like that.

Just don't do it again or she'll shoot you dead.

[tiesieman]

you all spelled scar-h with bipod, hbar and 6x wrong:p

[didjeridu]

SCAR-H is just the G3's less attractive younger sister. She's not woman enough for me.

[kirbyderby]

Feb 24, 2012 17:10:18 GMT -5 didjeridu said:

SCAR-H is just the G3's less attractive younger sister. She's not woman enough for me.

So... that makes the SKS, like... the mature, sexy cougar... or something? I'm bad with metaphors.

[fazzmania]

I still can't see any good players taking the bipod. Being locked to a surface is a death-wish in this game, especially for snipers. I laugh when I see any sniper using a bipod when holding breath is just as effective if you use it properly.

[rubionubio]

I'm probably not a good player, but I use a bipod all the time.

Knowing or reading flow lets me set up and shoot people as they flow into my zone, and then when it shifts away from my kill zone I just pack up and move on. What excites me the most is the proposed deploy speed boost ... 40% or whatever is going to be awesome.

This is my play style though, so I understand if others don't agree. I just pimp the shizz out of the LMG action.

Plus, being a hydralisk helps since people tend to flee in abject terror a lot and shooting them in the back is pretty easy.

[raxcoswell]

Depends on what you're up to. If yr a rush freak like me, bipod is great for defense, and even those v important moments on attack where you have to defend a plant. Don't play support ever so much though, but I'd been having some fun with M27 IAR bipod, due to it being pretty usable without a grip for the rest of the time.

But yeah, can't really see me putting it on assault rifles much, definitely not on a carbine.


also, bipod for bolt actions is silly sure, but for the SKS could it not be quite nice?

[saucejockey]

Kind of disappointed with the shotgun nerf.
Nerfing an already poor weapon category is kind of totally a dick move.

AKS-74U nerf I'm not too happy with. The long range damage gave me a reason to use something that's not the M4 on long range maps.

The slight AN-94 buff makes me happy though.
Anyone got the new HB values for the AN-94? I want to see if it still has the +100 ads accuracy, or if i should go flash suppressor now.

Also, what are the new PP-19 damage values? I want to see if it's a good hi-cap PDW alternative until I unlock the P90.

[didjeridu]

Feb 24, 2012 17:18:36 GMT -5 kirbyderby said:

So... that makes the SKS, like... the mature, sexy cougar... or something? I'm bad with metaphors.

Kind of. The SKS is a very classy lady. She has a little more age and experience on her side, although she can be a bit high maintenance. She demands a lot from her man, but gives a lot in return.

Aaaaaaanyway...

The AKS-74u nerf makes me sad too. 17 damage was perfect for it. They could even give it more recoil, I don't care. All the other Carbines still outperformed it, the ARs and LMGs laughed in its face, and now the SCAR will outdamage it. It had its own little niche, and it fit with the whole AK thing. But no, it's now a lesser QBZ. With the foregrip being borderline awful and the QBZ supposedly getting an accuracy boost, it'll be pretty attractive if you handle the slow speed. And if it gets the bullpup hipfire bonus on top of the free laser sight, it won't be half bad up close either. And I'm really hoping the PP-19 retains 12.5 min. Daddy needs a new PDW. As much as I love the performance of the P90, I hate the way it looks, and I've had my fill of it from other shooters.

[mrite]

well, now that the SKS is a two hit kill, expect to see alot more of it, and does the ADS and Flechette buff make the 870 have no spread when ads? if so, let the hilarity ensue

[tiesieman]

Feb 24, 2012 21:03:03 GMT -5 didjeridu said:

Feb 24, 2012 17:18:36 GMT -5 kirbyderby said:

So... that makes the SKS, like... the mature, sexy cougar... or something? I'm bad with metaphors.

Kind of. The SKS is a very classy lady. She has a little more age and experience on her side, although she can be a bit high maintenance. She demands a lot from her man, but gives a lot in return.

Aaaaaaanyway...

The AKS-74u nerf makes me sad too. 17 damage was perfect for it. They could even give it more recoil, I don't care. All the other Carbines still outperformed it, the ARs and LMGs laughed in its face, and now the SCAR will outdamage it. It had its own little niche, and it fit with the whole AK thing. But no, it's now a lesser QBZ. With the foregrip being borderline awful and the QBZ supposedly getting an accuracy boost, it'll be pretty attractive if you handle the slow speed. And if it gets the bullpup hipfire bonus on top of the free laser sight, it won't be half bad up close either. And I'm really hoping the PP-19 retains 12.5 min. Daddy needs a new PDW. As much as I love the performance of the P90, I hate the way it looks, and I've had my fill of it from other shooters.

I saw that new plot for the QBZ. Seems like that new built-in foregrip actually hurts the thing more than it does good to it, since it gets higher base spread and the recoil change isn't significant since its recoil recovery is also nerfed

i kinda let go of the "AK-ish weapons are high power" idea but it's hard, since I've only learned since BF3 that the new AK's are only small (is 5,56/5,45 concidered small or medium?) calibre and not awesome mancannons

[didjeridu]

Well, that sucks. I was hoping the QBZ didn't get the min spread increase added in there. So I guess it's stuck with the HBAR and silencer now. Still, as much as I dislike the new foregrip, it gets it for free: 3 attachments at all times. That's still a point in its favor in my book.

So is the game trying to say the Russians stopped using manly weapons and went the sensible route like most other countries? That's no fun.

[mrite]

also, as a result of the patch, the semi auto shotguns now have more killing potential, as they have a potential area to hit that is around 50% the size, while only having 75% of the pellets, ergo they have a much increased killing potential, especially the M1014 with higher ROF and ridiculously low recoil

[tiesieman]

I think the idea with the new flechette/buckshot is to bring balance back how it was in BC2

Think about it. Semis had less pellets there too, but I think same spread size as Pumps (and they also had a decent RoF), and mostly, they were consistent
These new shotties are decently accurate, fire slower but are able to hit kill very up close. They might turn out to be not bad after all

And the russians still have the manliest weapon of them all..the Saiga

[Keralastic]

Feb 25, 2012 8:49:29 GMT -5 tiesieman said:

i kinda let go of the "AK-ish weapons are high power" idea but it's hard, since I've only learned since BF3 that the new AK's are only small (is 5,56/5,45 concidered small or medium?) calibre and not awesome mancannons

The 5.45x39 round actually has some crazy ballistics, so it creates some insanely deadly wounds because it tumbles around once it gets inside someone, instead of going straight through.

So while it's a smaller cartridge, it's definitely not short on manly stopping power.

[phale]

Stick with the 9x39mm for Russian manly stopping power... that round's a beast in real life.

I'd also recommend you look up the KS-23 shotgun

[tiesieman]

I know, those things are build out of 23mm AA barrels, right?

if the SKS is a sexy mature cougar, that thing is rambo schwarzenegger

[SheWolf]

news on battlelog, server downtime 8-9 GMT.

comment: "We're sorry for the inconvenience but know this will be wonderful for all of us involved" followed by a wink emotic.

what a cocktease.

GOD i hope this is the patch.

[tiesieman]

Mar 11, 2012 19:15:50 GMT -5 SheWolf said:

news on battlelog, server downtime 8-9 GMT.

comment: "We're sorry for the inconvenience but know this will be wonderful for all of us involved" followed by a wink emotic.

what a cocktease.

GOD i hope this is the patch.

of course it isn't

and Zh1nt0 tweeting "it's a GOOD day today"? probably something in private life ("i will be getting laid tonight!" (really, i wouldn't even be suprised if that's it)) or they'll be announcing the patch release date all bombastically: late april/ early may for all platforms simultaniously!

rejoice!