Lower Recoil: AS50 or Barrett .50 Cal?

[banana]

Which has lower recoil assuming same rate of fire

[asasa]

AS50

[Marvel4]

I tested both at the same rate of fire and didn't notice any difference.

[UrbaneVirtuoso]

Conflicting... I suppose it'll be more conclusive to test them both at the same level -- with Variable Zoom.

[Marvel4]

I shot them at a wall and the patterns were the same. The recoil is a bit random, so sometimes one of them was better.

[banana]

How much shots did you take

[Marvel4]

Until I was out of ammo...

[mw2baller]

AS50 might have a tiny bit less recoil but it's not noticable. I use the barrett 50 cal w/ variable zoom and on low zoomit kicks as little as the AS50.

Likewise the AS50 on high zoom will pretty much kick as much as the barrett (you completely lose sight of your target).

Basically the AS50 has no use whatsoever (unless you NEED the hbs or silencer). The barrett with the variable zoom scope is like the AS50 with super extended mags and rapid fire.

[Marvel4]

I'm sure the stats from the guide are correct. So its only advantage is the lower sway.

[asasa]

Jun 25, 2012 21:44:48 GMT -5 Marvel4 said:

I'm sure the stats from the guide are correct. So its only advantage is the lower sway.

That pretty much confirms it. Ill test it tomorrow if I remember to see if I get the same results.

[mmacola]

Perhaps it's lower recoil but less centerspeed aswell? It could result the same. From the image, one seems to go farther than the other. Could be sway though.

[probaddie]

It's a tricky case, since they both have the same ViewKick and CenterSpeed values; only rate-of-fire differentiates them. Assuming 200 RPM for the AS50 and 625 for the Barret, my gut feeling is the AS50 should win out. Maybe I'll include the semi-auto sniper rifles in the next update of my work on recoil. In any case, and all else being equal, the lower zoom of the AS50 will make it appear to have less recoil/.

[mmacola]

Less zoom is a blessing for MId ranges, since you can shoot, miss, and still track the target, whereas a full zoom would loss him.

[wwa]

Ok, I tested Barrett vs AS50 again at 190 rpm [delays between shots = 0.315 sec.], close to AS50's firecap ... and a bit surprised ...

Looks like Marvel4 is right ....

Scav + Overkill PRO: Barrett + AS50 used (& Dead Silence)

1. No Kick test, 7 rounds:

Barrett: no proficiency, ACOG
AS50: attachments proficiency, ACOG + Ext Magz


2. Kick test, 7 rounds:

Barrett: Kick + ACOG
AS50: Kick + Ext Magz

[Megaqwerty]

...something else to remember: the AS50 loses its sway advantage when using the variable zoom.

[banana]

So there basically there's no reason to use the AS50 over the barret because even if you have that sway advantage that gets countered by holding breath or quickscoping fast enough that sway doesn't have enough time to move away from the target

[mmacola]

Less sway= Easier/faster to acquire targets in mid ranges if you were on target before aiming, since the immediate sway will not stray away from the target.

[banana]

Jun 26, 2012 14:32:43 GMT -5 wwa said:

Ok, I tested Barrett vs AS50 again at 190 rpm [delays between shots = 0.315 sec.], close to AS50's firecap ... and a bit surprised ...

Looks like Marvel4 is right ....

Scav + Overkill PRO: Barrett + AS50 used (& Dead Silence)

1. No Kick test, 7 rounds:

Barrett: no proficiency, ACOG
AS50: attachments proficiency, ACOG + Ext Magz


2. Kick test, 7 rounds:

Barrett: Kick + ACOG
AS50: Kick + Ext Magz

Im curious, how long is it until they are both fully recentered

[Marvel4]

I measured that before, I think it was around 0.5 seconds.

[banana]

So that would make it 120 rpm around 2x faster than msr

[asasa]

If you are campi, er... super elite PRO realistok cool guy, I dont see the use for the AS50 over the Barrett. If you are playing more aggr... er, quickscoping FAGG0T, I dont see the use of the AS50 over the MSR.

Its one of the many guns that just dont make sense, like the PM9 [Higher damage at range than PP90, but unusable beyond very close range]

[banana]

railgunners aren't faggets. You can't just pick up a sniper, start quickscoping, and expect to have a good k/d. It takes a lot of practice and dedication.

[asasa]

It was a joke man

[banana]

BTW how do you pronounce asasa

[y260]

Jun 26, 2012 19:23:56 GMT -5 banana said:

So there basically there's no reason to use the AS50 over the barret because even if you have that sway advantage that gets countered by holding breath or quickscoping fast enough that sway doesn't have enough time to move away from the target

The sway reduction is a byproduct of the AS50's lower magnification, not a feature of the weapon as a whole.

And yeah, sway is hardly an issue if you're using default sniper optics because you should be holding your breath before you fire. That's why I'm hard-pressed to recommend the stability proficiency (decreased sway) on any sniper weapon, unless you're running the ACOG.

[Marvel4]

It's not just visual, the AS50 really has lower sway (same as the Barrett in previous games), but loses this advantage with the Variable Zoom Scope.

[Dumien]

Jun 27, 2012 19:04:13 GMT -5 asasa said:

If you are campi, er... super elite PRO realistok cool guy, I dont see the use for the AS50 over the Barrett. If you are playing more aggr... er, quickscoping FAGG0T, I dont see the use of the AS50 over the MSR.

Its one of the many guns that just dont make sense, like the PM9 [Higher damage at range than PP90, but unusable beyond very close range]

I prefer the AS50 over the Barret in "waiting games" because of the larger FOV without the need of ACOG. Also, because my eyesight sucks it lets me fight at the range that I am more comfortable with (CQC) without overzooming.

[UrbaneVirtuoso]

Jun 28, 2012 0:40:14 GMT -5 banana said:

BTW how do you pronounce asasa

I've always deemed it A-zah-zah, even though he'd cringe.

[iw5000]

Jun 27, 2012 19:37:35 GMT -5 banana said:

railgunners aren't faggets. You can't just pick up a sniper, start quickscoping, and expect to have a good k/d. It takes a lot of practice, dedication and willingness to screw over your teammates, and not help them win because you are to busy trying to be cool

Fixed it for you.

[banana]

Ha wow