Hi all, first post here but wanted to run this past this place. The following vid has a still image of a spreadsheet containing statistical data for weapons in BO2. It looks rather comprehensive. However has it originated/been verified from here? Upscale to 1080p and view via the Youtube link, no chance of seeing it the embedded view! Please have a look :
Not so sure on the movement speeds. Unless the knife is >100% because you can run further w/ knife than SMG/Shotgun. Everything else looks really solid. Raise times are different than mine but I hand timed it stopped timing when the gun fired so mine are all a bit longer than what is on the chart. Also the Add times look spot on as well.
Edit: Also the Sniper OSK data is off. I'm assuming this was done before the first patch.
The ranges are in feet, I converted them into meters and then into units and they match up fairly closely with the strategy guide values. I'm not sure which ones are completely correct, though, since they're not exactly the same.
Post by aidsaidsaids on Nov 12, 2012 16:07:10 GMT -5
What's missing from these is the burst guns raw RoF (inside the burst/with SF). That's really important information, especially if the rest is correct. The SWAT556 SF looks poised to Dominate the Scar and possibly the AN-94, in addition to being the clear favorite for hardcore. 33 minimum damage is a big deal. The guide data posted at
has the RoF listed as >900, and if that's the case the SWAT556 seems to be the clear favorite in the AR category (since the M8A1's 3hk range is so short). Meanwhile the SWAT556 looks like it's 3hk zone with a silencer will be longer than any of the autos without.
Post by aidsaidsaids on Nov 12, 2012 16:36:28 GMT -5
Its RoF is too low. It's lower than the stock Mk14. It's only competitive if you never miss ever, which is a tall order in a world of framerate issues and lag. Also, its 3hk range its only really competitive range, and it's 55 mystery units long. Historically, 50 damage guns don't kill in 2 shots nearly as often as you want them to, and at ~500rpm if you don't 2 shot them it's not worth it. There's a reason nobody other than danoski uses the M60.
Post by aidsaidsaids on Nov 12, 2012 17:02:39 GMT -5
It's not terrible, but I think it's definitely going to relate to the other ARs in a similar way to the M60 to the other LMGs. Good on your host when the stars have aligned, and pretty average everywhere else.
Marvel4: "The random direction scale view kick"
May 31, 2019 14:02:25 GMT -5
probaddie: Yeah. And the direction your point of aim is kicked in is exactly the compass direction from which you were shot. Total deflection in degrees is damage * bg_viewKickScale. The time to recover (no matter the amount of kick) is 0.5 seconds.
Jun 7, 2019 6:37:20 GMT -5
probaddie: Was gonna post about this at some point, but... meh?
Jun 7, 2019 6:37:47 GMT -5
probaddie: Oh yeah. That random bit doesn't seem to work, btw.
Jun 7, 2019 7:15:35 GMT -5
drdoom: How the hell did u find all this stuff out?
Jun 7, 2019 11:20:39 GMT -5
probaddie: Handtesting and maffs.
Jun 8, 2019 16:25:04 GMT -5
drdoom: Hitscan gone in MW?
Aug 2, 2019 11:08:11 GMT -5
prioc: only for marshmallow gun
Aug 6, 2019 21:15:21 GMT -5