wwaa
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Post by wwaa on Nov 30, 2012 10:15:29 GMT -5
^ omg ... there were errors in formulas, I had to delete it. I hope no errors below: MTAR vs TYPE25, looking at ROF and damage only, just pure firepower incl. different framerates. It does not show which rifle is better: recoil and other parameters not included. Relative TTK of both rifles. Details - average ratios in given framerate ranges - in a table below. TYPE 25 TTK = "number from the table" x MTAR TTK. Generally speaking TYPE25 is 24% better than MTAR in long range and 27% worse in close range (global 20-206fps). On xbox MTAR's close range adv seems higher than on PC, but higher deviations from the average... Long range = both weapons: min damage, close = both weapons: max damage. Chart below: Blue lines show TTK ratios in close and long range, TYPE25 in red, MTAR - green.
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Post by wwaa on Nov 30, 2012 10:54:28 GMT -5
I can do the same very quickly for any 2 guns, PDW-57 vs MP7: (without RF) PDW-47 TTK = "number from the table" x MP7 TTK. Long range = both weapons: min damage, close = both weapons: max damage.
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Post by Tyzerra on Nov 30, 2012 11:06:08 GMT -5
AN-94 is best assault rifle. Seriously, I picked that thing up a few times yesterday and it wrecks house. It's one of the only full-auto AR's with a 3HK potential PLUS it has great handling and it's first 2-shot faster ROF niche too.
I know what I'm spending a perma-unlock token on next prestige ;D
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Post by adw1983 on Nov 30, 2012 16:13:11 GMT -5
The answer is AN94.
How do people actually hit stuff with the SCAR-H anyway??
You can't even full auto on 15 meters range -- unlike SMR SF, FAL SF, M8 SF, SWAT556 SF, MTAR, AN94, M27 and Type 25.
Oh. That's every other assault rifle in class.
The SCAR-H from Modern Warfare 2 was good because it barely had recoil. But it was not better than ACR.
Now they went ahead and made it the CM901 of Black Ops 2: It does nothing at all, that matters, better than any other assault rifle. Insignificantly greater bullet penetration for the win!
Extra bullet penetration bonus never helped my SMR get a kill. Not even with FMJ could I tell the difference. So I doubt it will help the SCAR.
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Post by banana on Nov 30, 2012 19:14:01 GMT -5
AN-94 is best assault rifle. Seriously, I picked that thing up a few times yesterday and it wrecks house. It's one of the only full-auto AR's with a 3HK potential PLUS it has great handling and it's first 2-shot faster ROF niche too. I know what I'm spending a perma-unlock token on next prestige ;D Once the an94 shoots 4 shots it starts to have a lower average rpm then the mtar
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Post by asasa on Nov 30, 2012 19:18:52 GMT -5
All you have to do is let off the fire button after the second shot and repress it ASAP. Then its back to 900rpm.
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Post by mw2baller on Nov 30, 2012 19:55:10 GMT -5
i'd say the fal, m27, and m8 are the best ARs. I agree that the mtar and type25 are definitely the worst.
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Post by asasa on Nov 30, 2012 21:43:24 GMT -5
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Post by arcanine2009 on Nov 30, 2012 22:47:38 GMT -5
m27 is more outclassed than the MTAR, since it has no 3 hit kill range, and a weaker multiplier, and sway is very noticable. It has the slowest kill time out of all the auto ARs also. Slowest kill time in 3HK range only. It's going to have better kill time than a lot of the weapons simply because of its extreme accuracy. Why do you think the ACR was so good? It was trash up close but because of its accuracy, it could make up for that deficiency by landing more bullets even against a weapon that took one less bullet to kill. A 3HK range that extends only to the edge of shotgun range isn't really that big of an advantage when SMGs can crush you with hip fire from further out than that. The ACR was good because it was not only very accurate, but it had the longest and most powerful range of all auto ARs. This is not the case with the M27.
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