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Post by Dumien on Mar 20, 2013 14:32:59 GMT -5
Reminds me of that south park episode with that mean middle eastern fellow that killed lots of people.
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Post by Amirror on Mar 20, 2013 14:35:44 GMT -5
Trollarch LOL. Also, those who said the M1216 is better than S12 from this patch must feel pretty stupid. I do too. Placebo Effect, hm?
If they had stealth buffed it, no one would notice at all. First Executioner Dual-Wield is horribly nerfed, and now this. So subtle.
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Post by UrbaneVirtuoso on Mar 20, 2013 14:39:19 GMT -5
Well, as little as that may be it makes Long Barrel slightly less mandatory.
Slightly.
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Usagi
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Post by Usagi on Mar 20, 2013 15:24:27 GMT -5
Also, those who said the M1216 is better than S12 from this patch must feel pretty stupid. I do too. I still stand by my opinion that the M1216 was always better than the Sega. This buff is hilarious. The image is a bit hard to make out because it's so pixelated.
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Post by phale on Mar 20, 2013 15:27:36 GMT -5
Nice skateboarder.
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Post by iw5000 on Mar 20, 2013 15:39:31 GMT -5
People hear buff or nerf and are all "nowai!" and for some reason still haven't noticed that 3arc arent changing jack sh it. Is it your opinion that the other guns (FAL, PDW, etc..) also received phantom nerfs?
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Post by citrus on Mar 20, 2013 15:52:17 GMT -5
SF FAL got the nerf stick hard.
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Post by beavernator on Mar 20, 2013 16:11:08 GMT -5
Homeopathic nerfs?
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Post by UrbaneVirtuoso on Mar 20, 2013 16:21:11 GMT -5
3arc should be like Valve, where they do hardcore TF2 changes that instill major upsets in the community, regardless of how necessary they are. :3
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Post by asasa on Mar 20, 2013 16:30:16 GMT -5
Its better than nothing... I guess?
Honestly it took me awhile to figure out what changed though.. lol.
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Post by iw5000 on Mar 20, 2013 16:38:44 GMT -5
"phantom nerfs" may not be the best way to put it. I mean theyre certainly there. It's just that if you ask me, if something is over/underperforming to such an extent that it needs to be altered, then the change should be significant. there's no way the stuff they change can have any more than a sublte effect. Ok...well, i agree. Said as much before. In a game where they feel a 1.25% grip adjustment on center speed is 'enough', I couldn't even imagine how trivial a later patched 'nerf' would entail. It would have to be much smaller than things like the grip effect. But i haven't seen the stats yet on the patch. Did Marvel check them yet? From my own dealings, like with the PDW, I can't really notice anything. And even my gun stats aren't showing anything, my gun kd hasn't dropped.
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Post by Marvel4 on Mar 20, 2013 16:45:13 GMT -5
Well, the PDW-57 and MSMC nerf is quite significant. Almost 12% lower centerspeed, slightly higher viewkick values and worse hipspread.
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Post by bradman on Mar 20, 2013 16:58:16 GMT -5
Shows how subjective "feel" comes into play...I really noticed the P-Dub nerf, but not so much the MSMC. I would never have guessed they were actually the same.
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Post by iw5000 on Mar 20, 2013 17:32:09 GMT -5
Well, the PDW-57 and MSMC nerf is quite significant. Almost 12% lower centerspeed, slightly higher viewkick values and worse hipspread. do you have all your findings on the board anywhere.
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Post by Usagi on Mar 20, 2013 18:50:40 GMT -5
Wait, why are people saying that the DW Executioners got nerfed? They didn't get nerfed, they just didn't get buffed.
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Post by Amirror on Mar 20, 2013 22:23:49 GMT -5
Wait, why are people saying that the DW Executioners got nerfed? They didn't get nerfed, they just didn't get buffed. Well I'm glad people think that wrong way cause now there'll be more people complaining like crazy to Trollarch about buffing it. (There's little to no hope in getting the R870 and KSG buffed, but there's still a chance in getting S12, M1216, and/or Executioner buffed.) I'd like to have a decent Assault Shield with Executioner class for once...the only reason I have a 1.49 K/D with the Executioner is because of the Assault Shield and it's taking the blow for the deaths.
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Post by 42 on Mar 20, 2013 23:01:49 GMT -5
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Post by Disgruntled Jigglypuff on Mar 21, 2013 3:06:27 GMT -5
I thought that the M1216 getting buffed was just a rumor.
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Post by Zero IX on Mar 21, 2013 7:45:58 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure 3arc saw a vid of Brick in action in MW3 and vowed to protect the player base from him.
Thank You Based 3arc
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Post by Brick2urface on Mar 21, 2013 9:30:07 GMT -5
They must have just skipped over the 90+ hitmarker vids and gone strait to the rampages. Sounds like something they would do.
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Post by Zero IX on Mar 21, 2013 9:45:37 GMT -5
"If he can do THIS with a bad shotgun... imagine what he could do with a good shotgun!!"
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Post by lackingdamage on Mar 21, 2013 9:50:13 GMT -5
This going to boost people using the gun by loads!
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Post by Dumien on Mar 21, 2013 9:55:53 GMT -5
Nice gameplay Brick
I believe the shotsguns got nerfed right after this video got popular....
One of the only videos my jaw literally dropped. I kinda accepted the nerfs after that...
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Post by Brick2urface on Mar 21, 2013 10:19:04 GMT -5
"If he can do THIS with a bad shotgun... imagine what he could do with a good shotgun!!" My exact thought at 6:12 in that game when playing it was this.
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Post by Brick2urface on Mar 21, 2013 10:24:28 GMT -5
Nice gameplay Brick I believe the shotsguns got nerfed right after this video got popular.... One of the only videos my jaw literally dropped. I kinda accepted the nerfs after that... Thats literally one of like 5 double moabs with pumps in existance. I saw it a long time ago. Then I laugh when people get tripple, quad, and even penta moabs with the other guns in the game. A pump shotgun gets 5 doubles, everything else has tripples and up.
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Post by Usagi on Mar 22, 2013 8:10:47 GMT -5
It's been too long since I've played an IW CoD, I've forgotten how awesome the sound assets are. I also forgot how cool the MW3 SPAS looked.
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Post by Champ on Mar 22, 2013 8:22:30 GMT -5
Sometimes it's painful to watch these console players. Half of enemies have like 3 seconds reaction time
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Post by bmac39 on Mar 22, 2013 13:54:01 GMT -5
Is it possible to do one of these for the PDW and MSMC? In terms of recoil and hip fire box size, of course.
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Post by Brick2urface on Mar 22, 2013 20:07:09 GMT -5
Sometimes it's painful to watch these console players. Half of enemies have like 3 seconds reaction time Are you talking about my vid or the double moab game? Only one guy in my game had bad reaction time. That lmg guy I put into dmh on the steps didnt get one shot off with his lmg when it took me 2 pumps to kill him. So thats like 1.5 reaction time at most. Watching that film again im dissapointed that the specialist spas didn't kill that striker guy that killed me near the end. That was a great shot I put on him. But hey, thats shotguns for ya.
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Post by bmac39 on Mar 22, 2013 23:19:19 GMT -5
Sure its possible but I wont do it. Can you do the overlay of hip fire like you did for the LMG Hybrid Sight then? Except for PDW and MSMC hip fire? PLEEEEEAAAASSSSSEEEEE
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