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Post by kylet357 on Nov 24, 2013 3:21:01 GMT -5
Is there any info on how much health the dog has? It's definitely more than 100, I'm thinking 175-250. If there is ever a nerf for this thing, I only hope it's the health. Anything else (two hits to kill, etc.) will make it useless.
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Post by Aphoristic on Nov 24, 2013 4:06:00 GMT -5
250, going by my assumption that they would pick a nice number that lies between 245 and 280.
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Post by wings on Nov 24, 2013 4:25:26 GMT -5
It is no more than 300 as I've had to hit that dog three times with the L115 using Chrome Lined.
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Post by ElysMustache on Nov 24, 2013 12:45:33 GMT -5
I have bashed a dog at least 6 times with the shield.
Shield 50 damage confirmed?
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Post by Aphoristic on Nov 24, 2013 13:14:52 GMT -5
I have bashed a dog at least 6 times with the shield. Shield 50 damage confirmed? Yes.
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Post by -3055- on Nov 24, 2013 14:19:42 GMT -5
Does riley regen health? If so, how quickly? If it doesn't then that number seems right.
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Post by netherwind on Nov 24, 2013 15:44:04 GMT -5
I was able to knife it twice, each time was a kill. Once I shoot it before the knifing, the other time it was my teammate got killed after turning a corner, I knifed it when it was on cooldown.
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Post by dannycalamity on Nov 25, 2013 17:12:15 GMT -5
I was able to knife it twice, each time was a kill. Once I shoot it before the knifing, the other time it was my teammate got killed after turning a corner, I knifed it when it was on cooldown. I've managed to catch Riley off-guard a couple of times. Each time it took two stabs to kill him. Given the known knife damage of ~135, that would line up with Riley having 250 health. I have gotten a couple of one-stab kills, but those were in active areas where he'd certainly already taken a couple bullets.
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Post by markopolo on Nov 25, 2013 17:15:30 GMT -5
Gotta be more than that...
I had the dog run right at me and it took a third of a silenced m27 clip to put the bastard down
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Post by kylet357 on Nov 25, 2013 21:40:08 GMT -5
That little fuck took three shotgun blasts up close from my Tac-12.
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Post by netherwind on Nov 26, 2013 7:06:53 GMT -5
Gotta be more than that... I had the dog run right at me and it took a third of a silenced m27 clip to put the bastard down I run silenced M27 as well, it takes less than half of that to kill, it just feels you unloaded a lot when it's coming at you. Although, it does bring up a point which is the dog make EM really good if the other team are all running it, for regular AR you barely have enough to kill it after you killed the player.
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Post by markopolo on Nov 26, 2013 13:41:59 GMT -5
Gotta be more than that... I had the dog run right at me and it took a third of a silenced m27 clip to put the bastard down I run silenced M27 as well, it takes less than half of that to kill, it just feels you unloaded a lot when it's coming at you. Although, it does bring up a point which is the dog make EM really good if the other team are all running it, for regular AR you barely have enough to kill it after you killed the player. Not that I've tried to test it out, but I remember having a fresh clip before a dog attacked me, and I had to put in about 30 bullets into it to kill it. But I think I was also hip firing too.... And because I generally am a mid/far quarters combatant... You could be/probably are right
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Post by dannycalamity on Nov 26, 2013 16:33:00 GMT -5
I run silenced M27 as well, it takes less than half of that to kill, it just feels you unloaded a lot when it's coming at you. Although, it does bring up a point which is the dog make EM really good if the other team are all running it, for regular AR you barely have enough to kill it after you killed the player. Not that I've tried to test it out, but I remember having a fresh clip before a dog attacked me, and I had to put in about 30 bullets into it to kill it. But I think I was also hip firing too.... And because I generally am a mid/far quarters combatant... You could be/probably are right I can assure you that Riley takes two knife blows to kill, and since the Knife has a known damage value, that gives us a maximum of 278 health. Riley also takes three rounds from an L115 without attachments to kill, which means his health is over 200 (refer to the previous link for sniper damage values). Given that most numbers in the game are rounded fairly nicely, I'd say that 250 hitpoints is an entirely safe bet.
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Post by markopolo on Nov 26, 2013 16:40:43 GMT -5
arite
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Post by Lexapro on Nov 26, 2013 19:22:22 GMT -5
Riley has 8 bit health.
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Post by deston on Nov 27, 2013 9:51:36 GMT -5
If knife deals 139 damage, then why will it still someone in a custom game set to double (200) health?
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Post by qupie on Nov 27, 2013 10:15:48 GMT -5
Could be something like 139*health/100
I don't know, but this would be the way I would define it.
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Post by -3055- on Nov 27, 2013 10:18:07 GMT -5
Knife has a damage but I think it just has an autokill ability against players. It still OHKs to BV users, and they have a total of 250 hp.
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Post by deston on Nov 27, 2013 12:18:41 GMT -5
Doge is somewhere between 300 and 350 it seems. I just tested it for two knives to kill said dog. With a proper timing on a stun grenade (that is well placed so you don't stun yourself like a tit), you should just have enough time to get two knives in.
In practice I know I usually need 1-2 shotgun shots, and I usually don't get time for the second shot unless I've got vests.
In comparison to Riley, Sentry Guns have 1000 health and take 3 knives to go down.
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Post by dannycalamity on Nov 27, 2013 13:03:03 GMT -5
It seems that any single blow over presumably 100 damage will cause Riley to be knocked down. This includes slugs, sniper rounds, most explosives, and knives. I'm unaware if standard shotgun rounds with enough hitmarkers will knock him down.
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Post by Lexapro on Nov 27, 2013 13:54:51 GMT -5
Apparently any tactical grenades also knock him down and throwing knives are instant kills.
How much damage do throwing knives do? I'm pretty sure it wasn't over 300, maybe it's hardcoded to kill guard dogs in 1 hit or something.
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Post by Aphoristic on Nov 27, 2013 14:30:24 GMT -5
Will you all stop spouting nonsense?
Doge takes 3 sniper shots to kill (196-294 damage), 8 shots at 35 damage (245-280), or two knives (135-270). This logically leaves us with a range of 246-269 health, not 300.
You can get a one shot kill with shotguns. You always get a one hit kill with throwing knives. Armor Piercing rounds have no effect.
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Post by ElysMustache on Nov 27, 2013 14:45:40 GMT -5
Isn't the throwing knife only with the maniac? No. It is a normal Lethal Equipment item.
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Post by ElysMustache on Nov 27, 2013 14:46:54 GMT -5
Will you all stop spouting nonsense? Doge takes 3 sniper shots to kill (196-294 damage), 8 shots at 35 damage (245-280), or two knives (135-270). This logically leaves us with a range of 246-269 health, not 300. You can get a one shot kill with shotguns. You always get a one hit kill with throwing knives. Armor Piercing rounds have no effect. 6 shield bashes limits minimum to 251.
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Post by dannycalamity on Nov 27, 2013 16:36:33 GMT -5
Will you all stop spouting nonsense? Doge takes 3 sniper shots to kill (196-294 damage), 8 shots at 35 damage (245-280), or two knives (135-270). This logically leaves us with a range of 246-269 health, not 300. You can get a one shot kill with shotguns. You always get a one hit kill with throwing knives. Armor Piercing rounds have no effect. 6 shield bashes limits minimum to 251. Given that user's use of "at least", I'm tempted to believe he wasn't counting. If anyone could confirm, that'd be awesome. I'll try to do it in the next day or two.
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Post by dannycalamity on Dec 3, 2013 2:58:16 GMT -5
6 shield bashes limits minimum to 251. Given that user's use of "at least", I'm tempted to believe he wasn't counting. If anyone could confirm, that'd be awesome. I'll try to do it in the next day or two. Double-posting: Confirming that Riley takes 5 shield bashes to kill. Assuming the shield deals 50 damage and that damage value isn't modified when striking the Riley, he has at most 250 health.
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Post by ElysMustache on Dec 4, 2013 17:04:08 GMT -5
Given that user's use of "at least", I'm tempted to believe he wasn't counting. If anyone could confirm, that'd be awesome. I'll try to do it in the next day or two. Double-posting: Confirming that Riley takes 5 shield bashes to kill. Assuming the shield deals 50 damage and that damage value isn't modified when striking the Riley, he has at most 250 health. Nope. I have counted quite a few times now. It requires six bashes. I can post video if you still doubt.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Dec 4, 2013 17:13:07 GMT -5
Isn't the Riot Shield a poor way to test HP as the DMG that it deals is variable?
All 5 of Danny's shield bashes could of done max DMG each time while it took Elys 6 times due to one of his bashes not dealing optimum DMG.
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Post by kylet357 on Dec 4, 2013 19:43:18 GMT -5
Isn't the Riot Shield a poor way to test HP as the DMG that it deals is variable? All 5 of Danny's shield bashes could of done max DMG each time while it took Elys 6 times due to one of his bashes not dealing optimum DMG. The damage is variable?
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Post by -3055- on Dec 4, 2013 19:49:49 GMT -5
Yeah, but only by +/-3 IIRC
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