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Post by GodMars on Oct 28, 2014 13:57:10 GMT -5
The PS4 bros already know this, but I thought I should post something here: I'm stepping away from Destiny. It's worn me out, and it's time to move on. Should he want it, Hawk now has lead PS4-side. If not, I've left it up to him to pass it on.
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Post by 2piece on Oct 29, 2014 9:28:00 GMT -5
I understand why you are giving it up, the grind is real and RNG can be very cruel.
Wanted to let you know that I have enjoyed raiding with you and hope to play with you and the rest of the PS4 bros next week in AW.
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Post by markopolo on Oct 29, 2014 11:38:56 GMT -5
sorry I never got to raid/play with you (huh... what?) GMars. Should you ever come back to destiny, I hope to play with you (gah? wha?)
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Post by tooros on Oct 29, 2014 12:32:35 GMT -5
Echoed. You hit it very hard. I'm still on my first character and still in deep. Thanks for the invites and raid help from me.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Oct 29, 2014 12:36:13 GMT -5
I have only played the game intensively for 2 weeks (before 10/15 I was only playing story missions solo) and I have already shown signs of fatigue. When I am purposely farming things instead of having fun, something is not right.
I especially dislike the material farming. Sure, scavenger hunt can be fun, but it gets old fast if people are just running in circles to the known locations and press X.
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Post by mannon on Oct 29, 2014 12:42:00 GMT -5
So far I haven't actually had to go on any missions specifically to hunt for resources, but then I've put more time into patrols than the story missions. I'd say going on patrol is what I've done most in Destiny, by a rather wide margin.
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Post by markopolo on Oct 29, 2014 14:29:15 GMT -5
So far I haven't actually had to go on any missions specifically to hunt for resources, but then I've put more time into patrols than the story missions. I'd say going on patrol is what I've done most in Destiny, by a rather wide margin. I think the destiny app breaks down your hours and where you've played (patrol, story, crucible) Yea, a vast vast vast majority has been patrol too
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Post by wittyscorpion on Oct 29, 2014 14:48:12 GMT -5
I like the Patrol the least. So if you guys are having a lot of fun just doing that, there will be even more fun down the road
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Post by iw5000 on Oct 29, 2014 15:14:14 GMT -5
So far I haven't actually had to go on any missions specifically to hunt for resources, but then I've put more time into patrols than the story missions. I'd say going on patrol is what I've done most in Destiny, by a rather wide margin. I think the destiny app breaks down your hours and where you've played (patrol, story, crucible) Yea, a vast vast vast majority has been patrol too I looked this up The App doesn't appear to break down according to time. Only for 'kills'. I suppose that is a fair criteria, as kills sorts of equals time. Whether a strike, raid, patrol, crucible, or story.....something is always being killed during them. Below are my time breakdown, and my grade for each part of the game. 30.43% of my kills are in Strike Missions......B+ Some strikes are great fun. A few those are just cheesing silliness. 29.67% of my kills are in Patrol mode..........F Who thinks up dumb sh1t that running 20 min circle loops for sh1t is a good thing? 23.29% of my kills are in Story Mode stuff.....D- Story? What story? The plot sucks. Therefore, this part was idiotic. 09.41% of my kills are in VoG..................A+ Simply a fantastic part of the game. 07.23% of my kills are in Crucible.............F completely stupid, wasted my time doing this. When you take into consideration Patrol mode probably has the lowest Kill per Min factor....that means most of my time playing this game, has been spent in doing silly Materials farming and/or waiting for public events. Something is seriously wrong with this game, if that's the case. People will do this for a while....but it's not sustainable. At least it isn't for me. I am putting up with it now, under the pretense that there is something at the end of the rainbow. The VoG sort of filled that part. But what's next? GodMars.....what aspect wore you out?
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Post by markopolo on Oct 29, 2014 15:16:53 GMT -5
When you take into consideration Patrol mode probably has the lowest Kill per Min factor....that means most of my time playing this game, has been spent in doing silly Materials farming and/or waiting for public events. Something is seriously wrong with this game, if that's the case. People will do this for a while....but it's not sustainable. If you can't grind, you don't play MMO's
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Post by markopolo on Oct 29, 2014 15:20:07 GMT -5
Oh... goto bungie.net, you'll see how many hours's total you've played. Click on it to get a break down
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Post by iw5000 on Oct 29, 2014 15:20:28 GMT -5
When you take into consideration Patrol mode probably has the lowest Kill per Min factor....that means most of my time playing this game, has been spent in doing silly Materials farming and/or waiting for public events. Something is seriously wrong with this game, if that's the case. People will do this for a while....but it's not sustainable. If you can't grind, you don't play MMO's I typically don't play MMOs. Destiny would qualify as my first attempt at one.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Oct 29, 2014 15:21:17 GMT -5
But this game is not an MMO For most part Bungie did make it right on the promise that the "investment system" is not forcing players to grind for grind's sake (which is a design goal). At least two areas do violate this though: 1) Material farming; 2) Total RNG on raid gear drops, for a game mode that does not support matchmaking;
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Post by markopolo on Oct 29, 2014 15:21:38 GMT -5
If you can't grind, you don't play MMO's I typically don't play MMOs. Destiny would qualify as my first attempt at one. So long as new content is given, people will grind
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Post by wittyscorpion on Oct 29, 2014 15:27:29 GMT -5
marko and mannon: if you are doing a lot of patrols, make sure to incorporate material farming into your routine. Apparently there is no such thing as having too many of these (well, not until you have thousands). You will know once you get to ~level 27/28.
Work on all planets, they are all desperately needed.
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Post by mannon on Oct 29, 2014 15:42:40 GMT -5
Yeah I've got spinmetal for ages and a decent amount of Helium. I still need to unlock Venus and Mars for patrol, though. >,> I definitely pickup any resource I see and try to check all the spots I know of as I'm roaming about.
Do all the raid gear use the same resources or different ones? All the legendaries I bought happen to use Helium so luckily I had plenty. I'm just wondering if there's a way to know what to target ahead of time.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Oct 29, 2014 15:51:24 GMT -5
I am working on Warlock Raid gears, and they demand Iron. Not sure if that's the case for all classes.
Different weapons require different materials as well.
Unlock the other 2 planets are extremely simple. You can easily stroll through the story missions at your current level. No need to save them because you will play the hell out every each one of them eventually.
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Post by TheHawkNY on Oct 29, 2014 15:56:49 GMT -5
I believe they use different materials - even if they don't, you'll need different materials to upgrade your weapons.
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Post by Dumien on Oct 29, 2014 16:37:28 GMT -5
But this game is not an MMO Bungie says it isn't but it totes is (by definition)... lol It just does social well for an FPS game, but horribly for an MMO. Adding trading (maybe not a good idea) and larger fireteams (maybe not a good idea) would improve its MMO apsects.
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Post by mannon on Oct 29, 2014 16:49:29 GMT -5
I disagree. Destiny hybridizes some MMO features, but I really wouldn't call it an MMO. I don't consider Payday 2 or Warframe MMO's either and about the only thing that makes Destiny more MMO than those is you have "public" areas on each map and the tower. Nope... If that's all it takes for a game to be an MMO then the definition needs some work. With the limited social interaction in Destiny I just can't consider it an MMO at all.
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Post by Dumien on Oct 29, 2014 19:16:28 GMT -5
MMO has a broad definition, but a solid one regardless...wikipedia's looks pretty good. The original MMOs (Rouge and Dungeon) had far less interactivity than Destiny lol.
Perhaps you are thinking "no true MMO would be like X" with X being something you are familiar with that has more social interaction.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Oct 29, 2014 19:48:49 GMT -5
Bungie called Destiny a "shared world shooter", which is technically more accurate. It is a shooter with a world shared by players. Players who run into each other in this "shared" world pretty much can only do 1 thing: shoot stuff together (well, they can also gesture and dance with each other ). It is certainly not "massive", as at the most you can only run into ~10 players at a time, it also weak on the "multiplayer" aspect, as for practical purpose you really only play with your friends during PvE (public event is a cool side gimmick). From my point of view: it is an FPS in a persistent world, where I run into other players from time to time, occasionally doing (not very interesting) things together...
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Post by mannon on Oct 30, 2014 21:55:13 GMT -5
Story: 7h 59m Strike: 1h 59m Raid: 0h 0m Crucible: 3h 51m Patrol: 23h 21m
That's 63.71% of my time on Patrol. ;3
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Post by markopolo on Oct 31, 2014 13:48:22 GMT -5
4.25 on story 1.25 on strike 0 on raid and crucible 35h on patrol Total: 40.5
86.4% baby.
I love me the grind!
EDIT: but I'm gonna try that devil's lair strike spinmetal grind to try that, so my numbers will evenish out. Plus I'm gonna do some story work soon too... try to get to mars by the end of the weekend
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Post by mannon on Oct 31, 2014 15:22:19 GMT -5
Yeah I need to hit the story. Surprised I have as much time in story as I do given my lack of progress, but then I have redone all the early missions with all my characters so they are nearly all about the same spot as far as story missions, and I've replayed a couple of them for various reasons, (mostly for farming bounties via the first moon mission checkpoint).
Also planning to hit the story this weekend, but will have to squeeze it in with attempting the heroic weekly at a harder setting, and trying to do some crucible for my exotic bounty.
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Post by psychlon on Nov 10, 2014 0:17:22 GMT -5
I've spent the entire yesterday evening farming iron (Mars) and the mats on the moon while doing patrol missions alongside. Iron for my raid boots (4 upgrades = 16x4 = 64) and the other for my exotic helmet. It was hugely tiring, especially that you don't even get 2x mats of the nodes all the time (I thought that was part of an achievement I have). Just by nodes alone, I may have only done one and a half upgrades on the boots. The chests did their part big time.
I don't even want to think about all the weapon upgrades etc. .
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 10, 2014 6:47:25 GMT -5
I've spent the entire yesterday evening farming iron (Mars) and the mats on the moon while doing patrol missions alongside. Iron for my raid boots (4 upgrades = 16x4 = 64) and the other for my exotic helmet. It was hugely tiring, especially that you don't even get 2x mats of the nodes all the time (I thought that was part of an achievement I have). Just by nodes alone, I may have only done one and a half upgrades on the boots. The chests did their part big time. I don't even want to think about all the weapon upgrades etc. . Since we are forced by Bungie to farm, let's discuss how to have a a bit more fun while doing it. I am starting a dedicated discussion thread: denkirson.proboards.com/thread/7422/destiny-more-farming-planet-materials
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Post by tooros on Dec 4, 2014 9:22:37 GMT -5
Guys. I'm suffering the lack of EU timezone players. I'll always jump in and play with anyone from here but for now, I'm going to join up with another clan in readiness for Crota. Hope that's OK.
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Post by wings on Dec 4, 2014 9:41:50 GMT -5
Guys. I'm suffering the lack of EU timezone players. I'll always jump in and play with anyone from here but for now, I'm going to join up with another clan in readiness for Crota. Hope that's OK. You could try dw247. They have a fair amount of EU PSN Destiny players. This is what stops me getting an XB1 for players here as I work early shifts.
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Post by mannon on Dec 4, 2014 9:54:34 GMT -5
Clan seems dead on PS4...
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