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Post by cashmoves on Nov 10, 2014 13:26:45 GMT -5
so its been forever since ive been on these boards. ive played cods going back to cod4 and have never played it on anything other than xbox. the only one ive skipped is ghosts because my xbox died about a year ago (RIP). anyway, i think im getting back into the game this holiday season and its gonna be with advanced warfare.
question is, which console should i get?
i think i actually want a PS4 but im nervous about getting a PS4 for cod just because ive only ever played it on xbox. is there just as large a community? am i giving anything up by going to PS4? how quickly are patches put through for both consoles? double xp and bonuses like that the same on both consoles?
whats the split on these boards like as far as PS4 v. xbox?
thanks in advance. i know this is a pretty basic topic.
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Post by iw5000 on Nov 10, 2014 14:03:26 GMT -5
Might be a basic topic, but any answer is going to be pretty complex.
To make it simple. Pick the system where your friends play. Especially if you do a lot of gaming that is social based. The two systems are close enough in power/specs/price, that doing this for a first step is probably the best solution.
If you have no friends, not an easy call. PS4 might have been an easy call a few months ago (the sales leader, cheaper and also has a bit more graphical resolution (which was debateable) but these days, XB1 is giving some really good deals. Lower price than PS4, removed the kinect, taking away small graphical edge, and they have great deals on bundled games, etc...
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Post by cashmoves on Nov 10, 2014 14:09:09 GMT -5
what did they do to increase graphical performance?
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 10, 2014 14:16:32 GMT -5
Besides the most important question of where your friends are playing on that IW5K already pointed out, a few more to see whether XONE is for you: 1) Do you like Halo? (I assume no because otherwise you won't even start this thread ) 2) Do you like Assassin's Creed? If yes, then XONE bundle with AC Unity & AC Black Flag might be too attractive to pass up ($350); 3) Where are you located? If you are in Europe, then PS4 is dominating XONE in terms of market share so you might want to go with PS4 for better online MP population. In US on the other hand, PS4 and XONE are pretty comparable (relatively speaking); 4) Do you care about the platform exclusives like The Order (PS4), Tomb Raider (XONE), etc? 5) Last but certainly not the least: do you want to join the most awesome CoD clan in the world, HSV1? (OK, I am just kidding here )
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Post by iw5000 on Nov 10, 2014 14:19:35 GMT -5
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Post by -3055- on Nov 10, 2014 14:20:44 GMT -5
Get a PS4 cuz it has a higher # than Xbox 1
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 10, 2014 14:22:45 GMT -5
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Post by mannon on Nov 10, 2014 14:34:24 GMT -5
That's totally fine, but that's more of a gap on horizontal resolution than I thought there was. That gives PS4 39.13% more horizontal resolution and thus 39.13% more pixels. Or to state it the other way, (because it sounds smaller, but isn't) that gives XB1 28.125% less than PS4.
I dunno. I think I probably could tell the difference, at least comparing side by side and if I can choose what I'm looking at. Still, it's not huge. Should be totally playable and everybody you compete against will have the same so it shouldn't be that big a deal.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 10, 2014 14:38:54 GMT -5
That's totally fine, but that's more of a gap on horizontal resolution than I thought there was. That gives PS4 39.13% more horizontal resolution and thus 39.13% more pixels. Or to state it the other way, (because it sounds smaller, but isn't) that gives XB1 28.125% less than PS4. I dunno. I think I probably could tell the difference, at least comparing side by side and if I can choose what I'm looking at. Still, it's not huge. Should be totally playable and everybody you compete against will have the same so it shouldn't be that big a deal. For SP I agree that can be significant. For MP I don't know. 99% of the time in MP I am just staring at my cross hair with once-in-a-while peek at the mini map. No time to appreciate the fine textures at all. Sometimes I feel that in MP there is such a thing as "too much detail"... But anyway: graphically PS4 still outperforms XONE even after XONE released its GPU reservation for Kinect. So if graphics is your thing, then go with PS4.
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Post by cashmoves on Nov 10, 2014 14:39:23 GMT -5
Really appreciate the responses bros. im in the US, and right now my list of gaming friends is split equally between ps4 and xb1. if there is an xb1 + AW bundle for 349 around xmas then it might be too good to pass up. that and a 12 month xbox live sub gets me gaming for around $400 plus the cost of a decent 24in monitor (around $200) and im set.
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Post by mannon on Nov 10, 2014 14:48:11 GMT -5
Personally I find resolution quite important in MP, depending on the game. For CoD I often play a long range game where enemies are pretty small on screen and more resolution helps with target/threat identification and to some extent aiming once you have red dot blur, depth of field, and muzzle flash all competing to conceal your target. So the clearer the better.
Having said that, it's an equal playing field between you and your opponent so it really doesn't make any difference because it evens out. And like you said, there's not really any time for admiring how purty everything is. If anything it can be a distraction. (Though I do welcome decent looking multiplayer graphics, mostly I'd like to see more details that can actually affect the game like how we can now see and react to shadows. And some games offer a fair amount of destructibility to the environment. I appreciate that, even when the destruction is purely cosmetic. I like it when a battle can tear a place up and afterwords it looks like something really happened there.)
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 10, 2014 14:48:32 GMT -5
Really appreciate the responses bros. im in the US, and right now my list of gaming friends is split equally between ps4 and xb1. if there is an xb1 + AW bundle for 349 around xmas then it might be too good to pass up. that and a 12 month xbox live sub gets me gaming for around $400 plus the cost of a decent 24in monitor (around $200) and im set. If you have made your decisions on XONE purchase and don't mind waiting for 3 more weeks (you can play AW on X360 first and later free upgrade to XONE so no loss), wait on this: www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/black-friday-deals/categoryID.67001100?WT.mc_id=PromoEmail_BlackFridayPreview_Online_11-9-14_Hero_CheckthemoutThe XONE AC bundle is part of the Black Friday deal, and could be even cheaper than 350. After seeing this, I am so glad that I haven't pulled the trigger on making the purchase yet (I am planning to buy another XONE so my wife and I can play games together for the price of 1, both game and XBL)
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Post by Will on Nov 10, 2014 14:57:30 GMT -5
I play on a 65 inch TV and have both consoles - my eyes are unable to notice any difference. But I have different games for each console, so I can't do a true comparison. To the OP: Like everyone else said, get whatever your friends have. That is what is most important. If you have no friends, then I'd lean towards the Xbox just because I like the controller and the exclusives better. The PS4 did make great strides with their controller, it's a thousand times better than the crap we had with PS2/PS3, but it's still not an Xbox controller.
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Post by mannon on Nov 10, 2014 15:03:19 GMT -5
I rather prefer the PS4 controller to 360. Haven't tried XB1.
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Post by Will on Nov 10, 2014 16:32:02 GMT -5
I rather prefer the PS4 controller to 360. Haven't tried XB1. Share the crack
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Post by Megaqwerty on Nov 10, 2014 16:57:05 GMT -5
Dualshock 4 is far superior to the 360 controller. Have also not used the XB1 controller.
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Post by mannon on Nov 10, 2014 17:03:30 GMT -5
360 is a decent controller, except for the D-Pad which is garbage. But if you aren't trying to play fighting games with it the D-Pad mostly gets the job done. I prefer the PS4 sticks. 360 sticks feel stiff to me, and I've never liked the non symmetrical design. The PS3 had shitty triggers, but I don't have any problem with the PS4 triggers. Plus I actually do like the touchpad now that I'm used to it. I really like it when entering text. It also fits my hands really well and claw grip is pretty comfy for me with it now. Also the 360 controller feels like a brick, I never realized how heavy it was until I got a PS3 with it's light as a fucking feather controller. PS4 is somewhere between the two in weight.
Really the only thing I don't like about the PS4 controller is that the options and share buttons are a little too close to the touchpad and sometimes I press it on accident when intending to press the options button. All in all, probably my favorite controller. (Always did like the Dual Shock 1 & 2.)
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Post by cashmoves on Nov 10, 2014 17:12:19 GMT -5
ive never used either, but it doesnt seem fair to compare the ps4 controller to the 360 controller.
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Post by Pegasus Actual on Nov 10, 2014 17:17:00 GMT -5
PS4 is a better machine, and will have a more diverse lineup of games, along with better performing versions of cross-platform games. Xbox Live is still better than PSN. Xbox controller is better, but that's more preference than anything (unless you're talking battery life, in which case XBO kills PS4 -- but then again, PS4 controller comes with a built-in battery whereas whatever solution you go with on XBO is going to cost you extra).
If you're strictly a COD gamer, PS4 is the better version, though there's the faster DLC on Xbox exclusive deal bullshit.
But yes, there's a lot of good deals on Xbox right now, since they're a little desperate to catch up, so it's not a bad opportunity if you're a fan of the Xbox brand.
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Post by mannon on Nov 10, 2014 17:18:49 GMT -5
I only compare it to the 360 because that's the most relevant competitor I really have to compare to given I haven't tried XB1 controller. All I'm really saying is I like the PS4 controller quite a bit. It's a big improvement over the PS3, though I actually do like the PS3 controller decently, though it has it's pros and cons just like 360 controller.
PS4 has far fewer cons than PS3 controller, and I'm guessing XB1 is similar vs the 360, but I can't really say.
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Post by mannon on Nov 10, 2014 17:27:10 GMT -5
Is Xbox Live still better than PSN? I haven't really had any issues with PSN. And PSN+ has given me lots of cool games over the last year or so where I stopped even checking games with gold because it was always pretty much BS. Though, PSN+ free games haven't been quite as nice lately. Then there's all the XB1 partying issues people have been having with AW... *shrug*
At any rate both systems have some appeal and I'm sure that I'll get an XBone as well someday, though Halo is the only thing on it that interests me as of yet. So I'll wait.
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Post by Pegasus Actual on Nov 10, 2014 18:04:18 GMT -5
Well, Games with Gold vs PS+ games is another debate (PS+ wins handily if you invest in PS3 or Vita), but Microsoft just has better network infrastructure. Titanfall on Xbox Live Compute is a smoother experience than COD listen-server jank. Voice chat is much better on Xbox, PS4 voice quality is embarrassing. Microsoft has better OS guys, the achievement system is better than trophies. The counter to that is while I think Microsoft has much better OS guys, overall the OS still suffers from ridiculous slowdowns at time, whereas PS4 is generally responsive. That kind of shit can drive me nuts.
Both consoles kind of blow if you lose internet connection.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 10, 2014 18:10:58 GMT -5
Well, Games with Gold vs PS+ games is another debate (PS+ wins handily if you invest in PS3 or Vita), but Microsoft just has better network infrastructure. Titanfall on Xbox Live Compute is a smoother experience than COD listen-server jank. Voice chat is much better on Xbox, PS4 voice quality is embarrassing. Microsoft has better OS guys, the achievement system is better than trophies. The counter to that is while I think Microsoft has much better OS guys, overall the OS still suffers from ridiculous slowdowns at time, whereas PS4 is generally responsive. That kind of shit can drive me nuts. Both consoles kind of blow if you lose internet connection. I don't own a PS4 so this is biased: I really like MSFT's aggressive schedule of offering one beefy platform release every month, adding a solid list of features (so far) to address issues as well as make gaming tasks more convenient. To me personally: MSFT's dedicated servers for Titanfall is the best thing ever happened to online MP, nicely segmented by geo regions (US West, US Central, US East, etc). With that the game just plays so smoothly. I hope (maybe "wish" is a better word) that they can keep doing that once TF2 is coming out. Conceivably all XBL exclusives are going to enjoy this for free (Halo MCC, Halo 5, Sunset Overdrive co-op, and Fable Legends MP are already taking advantage of it), that's a significant factor to consider.
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Post by mannon on Nov 10, 2014 19:03:23 GMT -5
Dedicated servers is always good. I've heard the voice on XB1 is good because MS bought Skype. On PS4 it seems pretty good to me, except for AW in game. If playing Destiny or creating a party from the console OS it sounds fine, but when I created a party with my brother in AW the voice was horrible.
Achievements are better than Trophies since they have a numeric value attached to them. I find since I quit really playing 360 I don't really care about Steam achievements or PSN trophies very much. I do like getting some of them, though.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 10, 2014 19:36:40 GMT -5
One negative on XONE at least for now: AW's party integration with XONE is incredibly bad at the moment. For that I mainly blame SH because games like Titanfall and Destiny have been fine. (Well, Titanfall integration has something left to be desired, but good enough once you know the gist).
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Post by Blurred Wolf on Nov 10, 2014 22:19:06 GMT -5
I would pick solely on which console has the exclusives you care about most. Failing that I would go on which one is more popular with your friends or which controller you prefer (both have shitty analogue sticks so buy some kontrol freeks yo).
But if you 100% only care about cross-platform games and you have no preference on controller then the PS4 may be the better choice still. But it becomes a weak argument imo.
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Post by Will on Nov 11, 2014 3:19:56 GMT -5
I'll echo what witty had to say about the Microsoft dedicated servers used in Titanfall. They made the game feel absolutely flawless. I've made my way to 10th generation (prestige) and have yet to experience a SINGLE death that I felt was undeserved. Not a SINGLE instance of poor hit detection or lag or anything like that. What I see on my screen is what happened, 100% of the time. Whereas with Call of Dooty, I can't go a single match without feeling ripped off. "I shot him first" and all that jazz. Blows my mind that SH chose not to use those same Microsoft servers seen in Titanfall.
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Post by tooros on Nov 11, 2014 8:34:26 GMT -5
I'd just go with whatever your friends are on. The graphics are improved on the PS4. Even in a title as recent as AW but, it's so fast I doubt you'd get time to notice. In Multiplayer the numbers are 1360x1080 XboxOne and 1920x1080 PS4
BUT - As I said - I seriously doubt you'd ever know.
Better to have friends to play with than higher res fingers and toes.
I don't own a 'bone but the Guys above have highlighted some party issues - not sure if that's MS parties or CoD parties though.
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Post by iw5000 on Nov 11, 2014 9:10:50 GMT -5
I'd just go with whatever your friends are on. The graphics are improved on the PS4. Even in a title as recent as AW but, it's so fast I doubt you'd get time to notice. In Multiplayer the numbers are 1360x1080 XboxOne and 1920x1080 PS4 BUT - As I said - I seriously doubt you'd ever know. Better to have friends to play with than higher res fingers and toes. I don't own a 'bone but the Guys above have highlighted some party issues - not sure if that's MS parties or CoD parties though. the problem with party integration is on the SH side of things. It's not with the XB1. The XB1 party system is currently working great on other games like Destiny. Very smooth, intuitive and very much improved from the 360. But something with SH's coding is screwing things up now. Someone else mentioned this before, but it's probably issues with trying to develop for four console systems. The companies need to move on, and let the 360 and ps3 die.
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Post by mannon on Nov 11, 2014 9:51:05 GMT -5
I'm not sure the XB1 and PS4 have enough market penetration for developers to completely abandon 360 and PS3, but I do agree it's time to focus on the current generation.
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