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Post by jaedrik on Mar 20, 2015 12:56:19 GMT -5
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Post by Megaqwerty on Mar 20, 2015 13:14:37 GMT -5
Hey bros. We all know that MW2 is, objectively, beyond any doubt, and without reservation, the best designed Call of Duty game ever made, period. This is an opinion. Den has written extensively on OMA and the only issue is underbarrel grenades not occupying a secondary slot (and ergo not making them mutually exclusive with OMA). That's all that needs to be fixed. OMA itself is an awesome perk that favors a highly dynamic play style and I would love to see it return in any form, even a remake. On-topic, I think Activision should just move to Call of Duty 201X releases, a la sport games. Or we could just have an Call of Duty All-Stars with the most popular guns and maps from previous games. Fans clearly want it and it would be dirt cheap to make.
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Post by ChloeB42 (Alexcalibur42) on Mar 20, 2015 13:29:52 GMT -5
Disagree. MW2 had some good things about it, but I'd rather have a BO1 remaster. Just remove Blackbird and tweak weapons and it's perfect IMO.
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Post by Megaqwerty on Mar 20, 2015 13:47:07 GMT -5
In the Wii version of Black Ops, Ghost Pro provided immunity to both the Blackbird and dogs. Furthermore, the Blackbird was only active in pulses and did not provide its effect constantly.
BO1 was perfectly balanced... Except for guns, which were a joke.
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Post by jaedrik on Mar 20, 2015 14:29:33 GMT -5
Disagree. MW2 had some good things about it, but I'd rather have a BO1 remaster. Just remove Blackbird and tweak weapons and it's perfect IMO. no u How about a game that already has (near perfect) balanced weapons? MW2. The maps have great verticality, and it was mostly fast paced and high-risk-high-reward. I like that. But, you're free to disagree, of course. This is an opinion. Den has written extensively on OMA and the only issue is underbarrel grenades not occupying a secondary slot (and ergo not making them mutually exclusive with OMA). That's all that needs to be fixed. OMA itself is an awesome perk that favors a highly dynamic play style and I would love to see it return in any form, even a remake. On-topic, I think Activision should just move to Call of Duty 201X releases, a la sport games. Or we could just have an Call of Duty All-Stars with the most popular guns and maps from previous games. Fans clearly want it and it would be dirt cheap to make. Hey now, lighten up, I was just--Oh. I wasn't expecting the objections to the OMADCProPipes thing. Very well. For the record, I really wouldn't mind if it was in.
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Post by Will on Mar 20, 2015 14:44:39 GMT -5
Why do we want to "remaster" games that have not aged in the slightest bit?
Like, what the Foxtrot would you even do to "remaster" it? Add 3 more shades of pixels into your textures?
If you want to play MW2, go play MW2.
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Post by bucket415 on Mar 20, 2015 14:46:52 GMT -5
In the Wii version of Black Ops, Ghost Pro provided immunity to both the Blackbird and dogs. Furthermore, the Blackbird was only active in pulses and did not provide its effect constantly. BO1 was perfectly balanced... Except for guns, which were a joke. Last Stand says hello.
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Post by Megaqwerty on Mar 20, 2015 14:52:16 GMT -5
If you want to play MW2, go play MW2. Low player count. Last Stand was garbage compared to the other perks in its tier. I would infinitely prefer a lobby all run Last Stand over Tac Mask or Hacker.
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Post by bucket415 on Mar 20, 2015 14:56:34 GMT -5
If you want to play MW2, go play MW2. Low player count. Last Stand was garbage compared to the other perks in its tier. I would infinitely prefer a lobby all run Last Stand over Tac Mask or Hacker. Forgot it was called 2nd Chance in that game... Here is a vid of mine. Please forgive the in-game recording quality. This was my every other game, right before a big killstreak.
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Post by jaedrik on Mar 20, 2015 15:30:08 GMT -5
I had literallly zero problems with Last Stand. I used it all the time with my exmags 1911.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Mar 20, 2015 15:40:24 GMT -5
Just use the Olympia to counter last stand :^)
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Post by thegentleman on Mar 20, 2015 15:41:00 GMT -5
I just feel like re-doing MW2 is a stupid idea that moves backwards instead of forwards. So within the last 4 years, did everyone collectively decide that they're not fatigued by MoMi shooters any more?
To me, the love for MW2 is one part nostalgia and two parts wishing for a higher standard of balance when it comes to considering the interaction of perks and guns. I'm looking at it as an outsider, since I never played MW2 online, but it seemed like it gave people agency and combined the best of what people like about Hardcore (feeling powerful and dropping people quickly) with what people like about Core (map, ammo, situational awareness, etc). From the single player aspect, the CONTROVERSIAL BEGINNING was the high note in a story that felt like a straight-to-video action movie for the rest of it. Price and Soap were so doofy and stupid I couldn't bother to care about them as characters.
So if everyone agrees it was solely about the online experience, then why does it have to be MW2?
Additionally, if it does become a thing, consider the current environment we have now. The "shit or get shit upon" nature of MW2's playstyle isn't going to be gleefully adopted wholeheartedly and without changes. I would expect the same SBMM systems and "supports" for new players that have crept into the franchise since then. There's not a big enough market to sell MW2 with a prettier coat of paint, but whatever updates or modifications that will be put into the online mode (which are inevitable and in many cases necessary for one reason or another) are going to leave the same people who signed the petition unsatisfied.
That's my take, anyway.
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Post by prioc on Mar 20, 2015 17:58:12 GMT -5
I would rather see AW get remastered
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Post by hard1ine on Mar 20, 2015 18:14:42 GMT -5
there are a gazillion ways to fix all of the maybe 4 issues MW2 had. The problem is the people of charge of it. Also BO1 had a blackbird at 8 fu cking kills lol. Count again. I've got: - OMA nerfed to give no Grenade Launcher ammo, lethal or tactical grenades when class switching - Knife range reduced back to 64 units - Commando range nerfed to 128 units - Every non-UMP SMG, most LMGs, and the F2000 buffed - Danger Close replaced with Juggernaut - Blast Shield buffed - Frag Grenades buffed - Nuke changed to MOAB - Chopper Gunner nerfed - Harrier Strike nerfed - Attack Chopper buffed - Airstrike and Predator changing kill requirements - Hardline changed to MW3 version - Scrambler changed to remove all icons from the enemy minimap in a certain range - Sleight of Hand Pro no longer works on Sniper Rifles - Tactical Insertion removed - Deathstreaks removed - Last Stand removed
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Post by Aphoristic on Mar 20, 2015 18:53:19 GMT -5
Why would MW2 need to be remastered? It already is in full 1080p on PC.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Mar 20, 2015 18:57:54 GMT -5
Even if it was remastered it would just be better graphics and not a mulitplayer overhaul you guys want.
How many HD remasterd games versions of games have had their meta's overhauled?
PS: MW2 is still the 2nd best looking CoD on PC.
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Post by ChloeB42 (Alexcalibur42) on Mar 20, 2015 19:10:17 GMT -5
Disagree. MW2 had some good things about it, but I'd rather have a BO1 remaster. Just remove Blackbird and tweak weapons and it's perfect IMO. no u How about a game that already has (near perfect) balanced weapons? MW2. The maps have great verticality, and it was mostly fast paced and high-risk-high-reward. I like that. But, you're free to disagree, of course. Because compared to BO1, it's a huge step back. Sure it has better weapon balance in that it has more variety, but BO1 had better scoreboards, had THE best Combat Record of any CoD to date, the whole CoD points thing was fantastic, theater mode is still one of my favorite addition, I loved how they handled equipment and grenades, the addition of emblems was fun, it did away with killstreaks giving you more killstreaks, I thought it had a better campaign and zombies is always great. The main downfall was Blackbird, because wallhack with no counter; dunno why 3arc thought that was ever a good idea, and the lazy gun balance. Also as for maps, I personally thought BO1 had better maps. Also BO1 was the least hacked CoD that I can remember, first hack I ever saw was like, last year.
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Post by Marvel4 on Mar 20, 2015 19:51:19 GMT -5
- Knife range reduced back to 64 units Do you even know what the fuck you're talking about?
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Post by probaddie on Mar 20, 2015 20:04:38 GMT -5
- Knife range reduced back to 64 units Do you even know what the Foxtrot you're talking about? He comes down from his ivory tower... with a vengeance .
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Post by banana on Mar 20, 2015 20:59:00 GMT -5
- Sleight of Hand Pro no longer works on Sniper Rifles Smh
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Post by Will on Mar 20, 2015 21:38:35 GMT -5
Has Marvel ever made a post that didn't kick ass?
Nobody can be that perfect.
Conclusion: Marvel is Vondehaaaaaaaaar
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Mar 20, 2015 23:24:39 GMT -5
Conclusion: Marvel is Vondehaaaaaaaaar Marvel, why did you nerf the R870?
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Post by jaedrik on Mar 21, 2015 1:31:29 GMT -5
Because compared to BO1, it's a huge step back. Sure it has better weapon balance in that it has more variety, but BO1 had better scoreboards, had THE best Combat Record of any CoD to date, the whole CoD points thing was fantastic, theater mode is still one of my favorite addition, I loved how they handled equipment and grenades, the addition of emblems was fun, it did away with killstreaks giving you more killstreaks, I thought it had a better campaign and zombies is always great. The main downfall was Blackbird, because wallhack with no counter; dunno why 3arc thought that was ever a good idea, and the lazy gun balance. Also as for maps, I personally thought BO1 had better maps. Also BO1 was the least hacked CoD that I can remember, first hack I ever saw was like, last year. What I deem as the core of the MW2 experience, the things that were necessary for it as functional gameplay, has nothing to do with Combat Records or Scoreboards. Those would easily be added without tainting that which is more distinctly MW2. The API can be updated, and the UI added to reflect the additional statistics. Those objections clear up almost instantly. The removal of killstreaks counting towards killstreaks removed the second part of the high-risk-high-reward nature of MW2. It's already dangerous enough when it only takes 2BTK, and the guns are a ton more accurate. Besides, I ran around with Stinger and CBpro, denying people their stuff. I loved it. More neutral game does not equate to a better game.
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Post by ChloeB42 (Alexcalibur42) on Mar 21, 2015 2:17:41 GMT -5
I just don't see the high risk part.
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Post by jaedrik on Mar 21, 2015 11:01:52 GMT -5
I just don't see the high risk part. Understandable. Truth be told, it might be more medium risk than high. Another of the factors that goes into high-risk is deathstreaks. I like that it adds extra difficulty for the people who are stomping.
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Post by wings on Mar 21, 2015 12:12:58 GMT -5
The main downfall was Blackbird, because wallhack with no counter; dunno why 3arc thought that was ever a good idea, and the lazy gun balance. Because a significant part of the playerbase need to be spoon-fed intelligence on enemy locations because of "waaaah campers!". It's the same dumb reason we had Ghost working the way it does in Black Ops 2 because very small maps, killcams, stackable UAVs etc. aren't enough for some of the players.
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Post by asasa on Mar 21, 2015 18:27:31 GMT -5
Disagree. MW2 had some good things about it, but I'd rather have a BO1 remaster. Just remove Blackbird and tweak weapons and it's perfect IMO. Yes! Mw2 was refined but nothing special gameplay wise. I'm not sure which part people attach themselves to.. The instant kill weapons? The smooth framerate(generally)? Pubstomping to ridiculous levels?
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Mar 21, 2015 20:44:15 GMT -5
surprised when people will put two different cods between lists of best and worst games theyve ever played. Because different developers doofus. That's why there's a massive Fallout 3 hater cult that loves Noob Vegas despite Noob Vegas being a reskin of FO3 simply because Obsidian has writers who worked on F02. Also why there are usually "tents" of fangoys in CoD. Like the "old IW" peeps who like M1/2, WaW fanygoys usually tend to like the BLOPS series(I wonder why?) and no one likes new IW/SH(except losers with skinny wieners).
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Post by imrlybord7 on Mar 21, 2015 21:03:00 GMT -5
They just need to combine CoD4, MW2, BO and BO2 into one game. Take the good maps and Create a Class elements, remove the dumb shit, make some balance adjustments. I would play that game for a long ass time, even though I've pretty much already played that game for a long ass time.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2015 22:00:36 GMT -5
I think Nintendo should remaster MW2, and in exchange they can replace all the characters with Reggie. If it works out we'll need to walk behind a nearby rock, squat down, and cover our ears.
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