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Post by Aphoristic on Jun 4, 2015 0:46:09 GMT -5
Did nobody really make a thread for this yet? Does the hype train not roll past here or something?
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Post by Pegasus Actual on Jun 4, 2015 1:37:25 GMT -5
I've still got New Vegas and Wasteland 2 to play, but this is looking like a good purchase when it's on sale for 20 bucks with all the DLC included.
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Post by Dumien on Jun 4, 2015 2:28:34 GMT -5
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Post by ChloeB42 (Alexcalibur42) on Jun 4, 2015 2:36:24 GMT -5
As hyped as I am, my literal reaction was the equivalent of sjkfiwijdwkalasodmdmsiaowoejcmxoaowejfjxkwsoalsdjfkd, it was a pretty empty trailer overall...It's in Boston...cool.
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Post by Pegasus Actual on Jun 4, 2015 2:53:04 GMT -5
Well, that would be console peasant schedule I suppose.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Jun 4, 2015 11:02:29 GMT -5
From the trailer we can see HD doge textures but no dynamic fur. 5/10.
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Post by Dumien on Jun 4, 2015 12:57:55 GMT -5
fallout 4 with Skyrim graphics would make me happy.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Jun 4, 2015 13:14:06 GMT -5
Well it'll obviously have HD texture mods. I can't wait for Fallout on a different engine though; FO3 and NoobVegas even with HD textures mods and ENB still looked terrible(Fuck Gamebryo). Skyrim on HD texture mods however looks great so my body is ready for FO4 with HD texture mods and ENB.
I just hope they buff the double barrel and it's sawed off variant. They're utter garbage in both FO3 and NoobVegas.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 13:58:10 GMT -5
People on 4chan are claiming this picture is enough evidence to support the idea of gay, interracial couples. I disagree since it would conflict with the world building. After all, this particular clip is from the 50s. Maybe if it was a thing in he 21st century; sure. Why not? Otherwise I can't say that there's enough evidence to support this claim.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Jun 5, 2015 10:47:15 GMT -5
Fallout doesn't take place during the 50's you mouse. The Fallout Universe is simply retro futuristic. All of it happens in the future, the babomba's fell in 2077.
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Post by ChloeB42 (Alexcalibur42) on Jun 5, 2015 12:56:15 GMT -5
People on 4chan are claiming this picture is enough evidence to support the idea of gay, interracial couples. I disagree since it would conflict with the world building. After all, this particular clip is from the 50s. Maybe if it was a thing in he 21st century; sure. Why not? Otherwise I can't say that there's enough evidence to support this claim. Fallout's an alt history future sci fi game. Their 50's ain't the same as our 50's. Plus if this is right before the bombs went off we're talking 2070's like legit said.
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Post by Pegasus Actual on Jun 5, 2015 16:00:32 GMT -5
Wtf I don't come to these forums to deal with 4chan and video game trailer gaydar. Plus wasn't there plenty of gay in the original to begin with? Fluffing for bottle caps?
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Jun 5, 2015 16:46:34 GMT -5
Oh yeah I forgot. Even New Vegas had perks to be gay or lezzbo.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2015 0:41:51 GMT -5
I had the idea that Fallout 3 began in 2077; which would have meant the Great War started, everything settled down in less than a year, and the nuclear winter would be over. Fallout 3 actually begins in 2277. I'm an idiot.
I played New Vegas expecting the classic power trip Bethesda titles always offer; which apparently wasn't the case. All throughout playing the game I constantly felt like I was playing a more dismal version of Fallout 3. There were perks, items, and weapons from the FO3 that were outright weaker than their NV counterparts. More things lead to negative karma, and if you thought having fewer areas to explore off the bat was a good idea enjoy having a mountain pass filled with cazadors mocking you in the start. There was an expectation set by Fallout 3 that took a pretty sharp turn in New Vegas. That alone is why I didn't like New Vegas.
That being said I should give credit to New Vegas for being much more mechanically sound over FO3. There's no more invulnerability when firing in VATS; which could cheese your characters out of deathclaw swipes in FO3. Staple perks like educated needed a nerf anyway. By level 20 in FO3 it was possible to get 100 in all of your important skills, by 30 you could get 100 in everything if you planned ahead. What's the point of having a role-playing game if your character ends up well-rounded in the end? In hindsight having one perk every 2 levels isn't a bad idea; most of the perks you take in Fallout 3 were filler perks. They were perks you didn't need, but you had to pick one anyway. The repair system was improved, and many skill check systems were less exploitable- the list goes on.
If Fallout 4 builds off of NV's mechanics, I wouldn't mind it at all.
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Post by ChloeB42 (Alexcalibur42) on Jun 6, 2015 4:53:44 GMT -5
Honestly after reading about the 18 month development cycle of New Vegas it's hard to give it shit considering they clearly focused that time on improving mechanics and the sorts which made an overall enjoyable game experience IMO. Gun play in NV is infinitely better.
I just bought FO3 again and I just can't enjoy playing it as much. The map is bigger, the story is better, the locations are better and the load times are just beautiful. However the gun play is just, boring. Barely half an hour in and I'm running out of ammo left and right, using tons of weapons I have no specialization in etc... It made me long for the perk system of NV which allowed for very specialized characters. Pine for the loading benches and weapon upgrades. Cry out for the iron sights and reworked VATS.
I can definitely see why people think Fallout 3 is better, it is in many ways, but NV allowed more options with the little it did have. Also Speech checking the final boss was satisfying. And I enjoy the desert setting more personally, has more of a Mad Max feel, which considering Fallout derives several elements from Mad Max was fun.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Jun 6, 2015 11:52:54 GMT -5
Cry out for the iron sights and reworked VATS. Mods. What killed vanilla Noob Vegas for me was the environments and the lack of interesting places as well as atmosphere. However NV's saving grace was it's dope DLCs. F03 DLC was weak sauce while NV DLC was fantastic and better than the stock game(Dead Money master race). But thing is NVV perk/skill systems was extremely balanced however the DLC levels and perks made it's skill system almost broken as F03's, almost negating all established progression balance. So what saved NV also sort of ruined a aspect of it for me.
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Post by ChloeB42 (Alexcalibur42) on Jun 6, 2015 17:38:16 GMT -5
Cry out for the iron sights and reworked VATS. Mods. Only problem is I've never been able to get Fallout 3 to work on PC. Always CTD as soon as it tries to load the world. I've read at least 8 different work around methods and none work. NV I can get running on PC fine, but not 3. So I got it for PS3, which can't run mods obviously.
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Post by ChloeB42 (Alexcalibur42) on Jun 14, 2015 22:22:13 GMT -5
Fallout 4 Game of the Millennium
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Jun 14, 2015 22:31:34 GMT -5
I'm just happy power armor seems to be as powerful as it in the in-game lore VS chump armor that you just hock or give to your pack mule. I don't think I've been this hyped for a game since MW2.
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Post by prioc on Jun 14, 2015 22:43:06 GMT -5
yeah, it looks great. I'm pretty surprised by it, and it looks like they improved the gunplay a lot too. I'm going to try to keep my expectations low though
The mobile game also looks fun, but I wish it was playable on PC
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Post by Den on Jun 14, 2015 22:47:23 GMT -5
What're you doing, Todd, making a damn good presentation like that, actually showing off really interesting game mechanics and stuff? Nobody's allowed to make a good video game in this day and age!
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Post by jaedrik on Jun 14, 2015 23:11:49 GMT -5
I was impressed, not in the normal way, but in a good way. It was weird.
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Post by Dumien on Jun 17, 2015 17:39:23 GMT -5
I liked the part where he introduced the real pipboy.
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Post by eLantern on Jun 17, 2015 18:19:13 GMT -5
Since I never finished Fallout 3 on my PC before it took a shit forever (and I subsequently sold the game to a friend) I'm fairly excited about the prospects of getting a free copy with the purchase of Fallout 4 on the Xbox One, but I'm wondering if all the DLC will be included as part of it... haven't seen anything about that published yet.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 21:04:18 GMT -5
Since I never finished Fallout 3 on my PC before it took a shit forever (and I subsequently sold the game to a friend) I'm fairly excited about the prospects of getting a free copy with the purchase of Fallout 4 on the Xbox One, but I'm wondering if all the DLC will be included as part of it... haven't seen anything about that published yet. You didn't miss much. Fallout 3's ending is widely regarded as bad ... since you pretty much have to sacrifice your own life and after the end the game stopped playing then and there. Past the end you had to start a new game to explore the rest of the world and finish off all the side quests. That, or go back to a recent save and ignore the main questline. It was annoying to deal with, but the Broken Steel DLC fixes that. It's highly likely that Fallout 4 will eventually come out with a Game of the Year Edition with all the DLC included. Bethesda are the kind of people that would do that, which is nice. But not 2K with Borderlands 2. "You want the GotY edition with all the DLC for one convenient price? Okay, take HALF the DLC and NONE of the cosmetics you dumb piece of shit". Eat a dick, Randy.
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Post by ChloeB42 (Alexcalibur42) on Jun 18, 2015 22:23:16 GMT -5
I'm kind of apprehensive after hearing everything from E3. Seems like they're ignoring all the improvements and additions NV made. Seems very Fallout 3 oriented and focused on combat over other skills. I hope I can talk my way out of most quests but they were very "story" and "combat" oriented. Also I actually liked the faction system of NV and it seems that's gone too. :/
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Jun 18, 2015 23:23:39 GMT -5
As much as I like Fallout 3/Skyrim Bethesda does not know how to do DLC whatsoever. I disliked pretty much all of the Fallout 3/Skyrim DLC to be honest with the exception of Point Lookout(sort of). New Vegas DLC however made me wish the rest of the game was more like the DLC.
Outsource the DLC to Obsidian Brothesda, they know how to make a good expansion.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2015 0:02:35 GMT -5
I'd say Fallout 3 was mostly awful with DLC.
-Broken Steel was at least sensible and fixed the ending of the game, but it was more of the same. More of the same is okay by me; except that it was more of the same plus something I really didn't like. There was one part where Feral Ghoul Reavers infinitely spawned in one section, and it just killed my enjoyment of the DLC. They were spongy, deadly, and just annoying to deal with. Everything else was fine. Nothing special, but it was worth it. To be honest I could have lived without the level cap increase; by level 30 your guy can max out in almost everything under 10 INT. -The Pitt was stupid. You can't just design a game where you have unique items, cool gear, and expect your player not to get angry when you tell them to ditch it all because they're going on an infiltration mission. Why? Because infiltration mission, that's why. You could be done and over in 30 minutes with a plasma rifle and 1000 rounds, but no. Infiltration mission. Jerks. -Mothership Zeta was a major eye-roll. Again, you spend all this time collecting stuff in the wasteland only to leave it at the door of this DLC. Every enemy was spongy, even on really easy, and health was a very limited resource. I loathed this DLC, even if its flavour was well done. -I'll admit Point Lookout had its moments. By which I mean you get high and wander around at one point. That was fun. Getting a lobotomy? I have a feeling this is a joke gone terribly wrong. Redneck mutants in a gothic horror setting? Eh... it's a tough sell, honestly. It wasn't even a well-executed theme. It felt like the leftovers of other concepts mashed together.
At that point I couldn't be arsed to play Operation Anchorage. Look, the base game of Fallout 3 left me wanting more. Now I don't want anymore Fallout 3. You could tell me this DLC was secretly Half Life 3 with a different name, and I still wouldn't reinstall Fallout 3 for it.
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Post by Dumien on Jun 21, 2015 6:25:22 GMT -5
... since you pretty much have to sacrifice your own life Unless you have a radiation immune buddy. Then you are cool. One of the DLCs also takes place after the successful mass water purification with your character alive... so this ending is kindasorta cannon.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2015 13:55:08 GMT -5
... since you pretty much have to sacrifice your own life Unless you have a radiation immune buddy. Then you are cool. One of the DLCs also takes place after the successful mass water purification with your character alive... so this ending is kindasorta cannon. But Fawkes steals all my kills.
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