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Post by wittyscorpion on Oct 24, 2015 0:07:35 GMT -5
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Post by Pegasus Actual on Oct 27, 2015 0:39:40 GMT -5
My launch day experience trying to play Warzone was laaaaaag. Unplayable. Gave up. Seemed like Fatso wasn't having trouble, but for me it was no good. Will give it another try tomorrow. The REQ pack microtransactions are too in my face, I was one click away from spending $25 before I realized I wasn't looking at my preorder whatever bonus. I should probably just delete my payment information. Trying to charge me in the multiplayer setup menu. GTFO.
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Post by Pope Leo VII on Oct 27, 2015 8:31:35 GMT -5
Banking on amazon stepping their game up by laying down the game on my door step by the time I return from bball
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Post by wittyscorpion on Oct 27, 2015 10:40:39 GMT -5
My launch day experience trying to play Warzone was laaaaaag. Unplayable. Gave up. Seemed like Fatso wasn't having trouble, but for me it was no good. Will give it another try tomorrow. The REQ pack microtransactions are too in my face, I was one click away from spending $25 before I realized I wasn't looking at my preorder whatever bonus. I should probably just delete my payment information. Trying to charge me in the multiplayer setup menu. GTFO. These sound horrible. They need to fix it. Did a quick check on Reddit, seems to me players are trying hard to find negatives but not very successful, stark contrast to MCC. It is either a sign of successful launch, or Halo 5 did not have a good sale on first day. I'll play a bit of campaigns with wife today, won't be able to get into any of the MP stuff until late evening Wednesday.
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Post by blackbarney on Oct 27, 2015 11:00:51 GMT -5
what;s this stuff I'm hearing about cards you pick up and stuff? Is there somewhere that explains all this stuff?
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Post by wittyscorpion on Oct 27, 2015 11:10:36 GMT -5
what;s this stuff I'm hearing about cards you pick up and stuff? Is there somewhere that explains all this stuff? Very important stuff you need to know, especially now it is too easy to accidentally puchase them. Just created a dedicated thread: denkirson.proboards.com/thread/7978/req-discussion-thread
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Post by blackbarney on Oct 27, 2015 12:15:46 GMT -5
i love you
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Post by Pegasus Actual on Oct 27, 2015 12:31:04 GMT -5
I don't understand the Req stuff either. They're like burn cards from Titanfall, except you have to build up your super meter/titan meter to use them in game. Except for some which are just loadout items, kind of like how the Star Wars Battlefront beta seemed to work. I just do know that some packs when you highlighted them said 2.99, but then the one pack which I guess was a legendary edition thing didn't say anything, but when you click on it it's like "25 bucks!!! (CONFIRM HIGHLIGHTED WTF)". It definitely triggered the "this is not ok" part of my brain. More intrusive than say "shortcuts" in Battlefield which are also bullshit. Destiny is doing it better with the cosmetics only approach. Though this halloween festival thing in Destiny is a little confusing, you can buy the masks, and the masks help you finish quests but I guess it's not clear to me if the quests ultimately matter at all.
Anyway, will play more Halo tonight, hopefully it won't lag and I can be less cranky about it.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Oct 27, 2015 13:11:39 GMT -5
Metacritic.com screwed up and is still saying the game is not released yet, so no users can submit their ratings, which is the only rating that matters in my book.
Not saying the user ratings are more accurate than critic ratings, as it is absolutely the opposite, almost always the aggregation of I-am-a-fan-regardless-how-shitty-the-game-is crowd and I-hate-everything-that-is-hyped-regardless-how good-it-is crowd. However, it is pretty good as giving me an idea how disappointed I should expect to be after getting hyped to max levels.
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Post by blackbarney on Oct 27, 2015 13:21:57 GMT -5
/agree
user ratings are garbage. They are almost all either 0/10 or 10/10. Very binary and only the motivated vote. Whereas game critics have to have a say regardless if they want to or not.
Metacritic might be down, but gamerankings has an 86 going for this one so far, over 26 reviews or so. Not great.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Oct 27, 2015 13:51:38 GMT -5
/agree user ratings are garbage. They are almost all either 0/10 or 10/10. Very binary and only the motivated vote. Whereas game critics have to have a say regardless if they want to or not. Metacritic might be down, but gamerankings has an 86 going for this one so far, ov)er 26 reviews or so. Not great. I used to rely on critic reviews and look at gamerankings.com, until I came to full realization that the critics and I are on completely different wavelength: they hurry up thru the campaigns so they can mouth their opionions (and act like "it really matters" to the readers, which is always laughable), while I value the replayablity and social-ness of the MP experience, because once I buy a game, I want to play at least 6 months out of it. The binary nature of metacritic user ratings and reviews on the other hand, let me see the best possible and worst possible impressions, of which I can somewhat extapolate whether I will enjoy the gamr or not. Of couse, nothing beats free beta where I can just experience the game myself. For that I am grateful that more and more games are doing that.
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Post by Pegasus Actual on Oct 27, 2015 19:36:00 GMT -5
Critic reviews are completely useless for multiplayer focused games. Day 2 is off to a shit start for me as well. Game crashed while joining a game in a party. Then when I reopened the game I couldn't use REQ at all. I was locked into the default loadout. Now I'm sitting here waiting again while that game finishes because join in progress hasn't worked at all.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Oct 27, 2015 19:57:30 GMT -5
Critic reviews are completely useless for multiplayer focused games. Day 2 is off to a shit start for me as well. Game crashed while joining a game in a party. Then when I reopened the game I couldn't use REQ at all. I was locked into the default loadout. Now I'm sitting here waiting again while that game finishes because join in progress hasn't worked at all. Earlier I saw twitter chatter saying REQ system had issues then later claimed fixed. Still haven't had a chance to play the game yet, and unlikely to happen until tomorrow evening.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Oct 28, 2015 4:18:00 GMT -5
Quick glimpse into comments on metacritic and Reddit, and saw the following complaints about the game (spoiler free so don't worry):
1) "False advertisement"
"14 arena maps at launch" = 5 brand new, 2 remix, and 7 forge. - (not good, but not a big deal for me because I consider forge maps fine as long as the game play is good, since I am the kind of player who prefer game play >> visual. A map, no matter how pretty, will degenerate into sightlines and covers after playing through it 50+ times);
"6 Warzone maps at launch" = 3 maps in reality, the other 3 is just the same ones with blocked areas - (not cool)
2) Lackluster campaign
"too short", "poor plots", etc - (if true, it is disappointing. I would like to know how it compares with Halo 4, if better, then I am fine with it. Also curious how well the coop plays).
Other than the above I have not seen much else (other than constant screaming from players who want split-screen). I guess that is a good sign, indicating overall the game is solid, especially the MP (both Arena and Warzone).
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Post by Pegasus Actual on Oct 28, 2015 5:23:33 GMT -5
I have attempted to play many warzone games. I have only seen two maps. Last attempt worked ok for most of the match, and then started lagging when both teams had gotten around 900 points, when we were up 990 to 983 it just lagged out completely and I got disconnected. I have a feeling it's related to the preview dashboard having screwed up MTU.
The graphics aren't great in multiplayer. I do think going for 60fps is the right thing to do, but it's not a pretty game by any means.
Thne PVE portion of Warzone is not something I'm loving yet. I mean, it does feel like fighting Halo enemies but I don't think that's a good thing. There's little to no feedback when you hit an enemy. As opposed to Destiny where you can feel impact/stagger at work. The bullet spongy AIs do have health meters but without any damage feedback let alone damage numbers it's really hard to say what effect you're having on them. It's clear that you are supposed to REQ power weapons to take them down effectively, which I would love to do but with all the lag it's very hit and miss whether I'll actually spawn with the item that I tried to REQ.
Chances that I'm going to stick with Halo 5 as a multiplayer fix are looking pretty bad at the moment.
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Post by blackbarney on Oct 28, 2015 7:54:23 GMT -5
K, I plays a ton of multiplayer last night and don't really like it. It makes you appreciate Destiny Crucible much more, that's for sure. But even that I don't prefer to Call of Duty. Those guys really have the multiplayer experience down. I might pick up BOIII fat skipping AW.
Played Warzone once and the rest was standard multiplayer. TTK is pretty long and if you run into more than one guy, you're screwed. Can't figure out which weapons are best. Pistol seemed pretty good. Rail gun was really fun. Some maps were good, others terrible.
Not a fan.
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Post by hebbnh on Oct 28, 2015 9:10:41 GMT -5
Hmmmm. I was pretty sure I was going to pick this up, and now I'm strongly reconsidering. If Warzone isn't all that great, the appeal is pretty much gone for me.
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Post by blackbarney on Oct 28, 2015 9:37:41 GMT -5
To be fair, Warzone appeals to a very specific type of chaotic gamer. That's not me. I like having control and you need to be organized in Warzone. Did you play the Hoth mission in Battlefront's beta? It's a bit like that but much more nuts. The idea of saving up "mana" to be able to bring something big to the battle later gives a tactical edge to the whole thing that is difficult to manage (since ideally you would time this with others to make a blitzkrieg-type of impact to the momentum of the fight).
For instance, we were making a key push at one point so I bought a Warthog with turret. NO ONE would get on the gosh darn golly gee whiz turret. And we were making a push! It would have been perfect. In the end, an enemy spartan got on the turret and started wiping out our guys (who almost deserved it), I was trying to drive the Warthog off the side of the map to get rid of this threat but I can't drive those things for shit. At one point we came across a friendly Warthog with manned turret and our teammates didn't know what to do about our warthog, if they should shoot at it. It was funny.
In the end, Warzone feels a LOT like Battlefield. I ONLY like those games when playing with friends since you can coordinate assaults effectively. You can't lone-wolf Warzone at all. I was playing with a buddy but he's a slayer and does his own thing. Even when we wanted to coordinate our assaults, we were spawning so far from each other, it was impossible.
edit: also, the REQ cards a little overwhelming and intimidating. I have no idea what to do with them and I have TONS of them now. I imagine I should be selling most but I don't even know what I'm saving them for. I bought a Gold pack yesterday and got some weird stuff but I just don't know. Also, I don't understand how to use the Boost cards that well. They seem to last for more than one match.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Oct 28, 2015 9:57:14 GMT -5
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Post by wittyscorpion on Oct 28, 2015 11:00:38 GMT -5
Bugs and (minor) gripes list from reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/3qjmri/official_halo_5_bug_list_minor_gripes/
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Post by wittyscorpion on Oct 29, 2015 11:16:12 GMT -5
Only got 2 hours last night so played a bit of campaigns on legendary, impressions:
Like:
1) Love how the weapons feel. BR, DMR, Magnum all feel great, even the traditionally "gimpy" weapons (e.g.: PR) feel good; 2) Spartan abilities add interesting options into the flights; 3) Enemy AIs are pretty solid to fight against; 4) The squad and revival do provide richer options to the game play;
Dislike:
1) The friendly AIs are dumb. When I issue commands to them to go somewhere or focus fire on some enemy, my expectation for them is to stay alive first. But no, they follow the command blindly and often get themselves killed; 2) The chatters among the fireteam members are annoying;
Wish to have: Destiny style health bars and feedback-on-hit on enemies
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Post by wittyscorpion on Oct 30, 2015 12:07:50 GMT -5
Only got 2 hours last night so played a bit of campaigns on legendary, impressions: Like: 1) Love how the weapons feel. BR, DMR, Magnum all feel great, even the traditionally "gimpy" weapons (e.g.: PR) feel good; 2) Spartan abilities add interesting options into the flights; 3) Enemy AIs are pretty solid to fight against; 4) The squad and revival do provide richer options to the game play; Dislike: 1) The friendly AIs are dumb. When I issue commands to them to go somewhere or focus fire on some enemy, my expectation for them is to stay alive first. But no, they follow the command blindly and often get themselves killed; 2) The chatters among the fireteam members are annoying; Wish to have: Destiny style health bars and feedback-on-hit on enemies 5 hours into my solo legendary campaign run, more impressions: The WeaponsThe more I play, the more I love the weapons: 1) UNSC precision weapons are my most favorite: BR, DMR, Magnum, SR all feel pretty bad ass; 2) Light Rifle is OK, the audio makes it feel less powerful than it actually is; 3) Plasma Pistol (PP) and Needler are doing what they are supposed to do, great companions to precision weapons ; 4) Full auto weapons (AR, PR, etc) feel stronger than previous installments. Still won't use them if I can find a precision weapon, but usable when I can't; Feedback on HitsHalo 5 has a complete different hit-feedback system from Destiny. Destiny's feedback primarily comes from enemy's flinch (and the health bar of course), while Halo 5 mainly comes from hit markers. This does take some time to get used to, but once I do, I feel comfortable: 1) white hashmarks = hit; 2) red hashmarks = crit hit (I think); 30 red "x" = kill; Because the enemies don't flinch, combined with got-hit-while-ADS->De-scope, as well as no unlimited ammo and special abilities, the PvE encounters feel more fierce than Destiny. Friendly AIsWhen playing solo, you have to treat these guys like "babies" and you are the babysitter, because In their dictionary the word "self-preservation" does not exist. Once you have a grasp on that fact, you will be all right: DO 1) keep them close to you; 2) mindful about their current locations and constantly placing them at safe spots; 3) always position yourself in easy-to-revive places, so they can safely revive you; DO NOT 1) leave them attended and flank using an alternative route. It sounds like a fine and natural tactical thing to do, until a) they got themselves killed so fast before you can complete your flanking and/or going back to revive them, and b) if you die, there is no hope for them to revive you so it is basically a wipe; 2) try to revive them in dangerous locations. Keep yourself alive is the most important thing, wait a few seconds and they will respawn and join you like nothing happened; My take on the common complaintsLots of the negative reviews are poking at the campaigns. Some of them are legit, while other are not so much: 1) "The campaign is too short" Maybe so if the reviewer is playing on easy mode and/or playing with friends. Solo legendary = tough challenges; 2) AI sucks This is a legit complaint, but expected especially in legendary. If the AIs are god-like, then there is no challenge. Also: the AIs are merely place holders of human players, and I believe it is the co-op where the campaign really shines: because multiple routes can be fully taken advantage of. 3) Not enough "Chief" Also a legitimate complaint, but does not bear significance in actual game play, because "Team Osiris" plays identical to "Blue Team" (once you get past the longings of Chief's voice). This is different from Halo 2, in which the Arbiter's story track is way less fun than Master Chief's. TL;DR: a) I am enjoying my solo legendary campaign run; b) the more I play the more I like it; and c) co-op is going to be a lot more fun.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 3, 2015 18:13:43 GMT -5
As part of the launch, 343i announced today availability of Public API beta: www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/developersLook forward to 3rd party web sites to use these APIs and provide insights on player performance stats. HTR (http://www.halotracker.com) should already be using the API.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 4, 2015 12:02:17 GMT -5
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