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Post by RainbowCrash on Nov 8, 2015 10:54:22 GMT -5
from my experience on PC the Brecci and they Haymaker absolutely tear me apart, i swear every time i see someone using the Haymaker they have at least a 2 k/d for the match
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Post by illram on Nov 8, 2015 11:49:59 GMT -5
How are people unlocking diamond already??
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Nov 8, 2015 12:37:18 GMT -5
How are people unlocking diamond already?? Consoles. Edito: Also having no obligations IRL.
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Post by cat on Nov 8, 2015 16:45:50 GMT -5
Dunno, man. Gaymaker-12 is my #1 weapon to hate in this game. I see more and more people using it. Y U NO S-12, Treyarch?
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Post by Disgruntled Jigglypuff on Nov 8, 2015 21:44:27 GMT -5
The suppressed haymaker = sex on safeguard n00btown. In other news, the argus is quite good... for a treyarc shotgun.
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Post by -3055- on Nov 9, 2015 4:02:08 GMT -5
The only guns i see are gorgon and man of war. Edpecially on nuketown dom.
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Post by Pope Leo VII on Nov 9, 2015 10:23:37 GMT -5
Balling my eyes out in the office reading such sad things about my beloveds!!
Outside the apparent suckyness, hard to find more then a few maps that the shotguns are even usable.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Nov 9, 2015 10:29:05 GMT -5
B3arc's nurf list: Gorgon Judge Dredge 48 All shotguns but Haymaker and 1887 especially.
Am I missing anything?
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Post by lackingdamage on Nov 9, 2015 14:06:53 GMT -5
Road to diamond shotguns has started....lets start with the KRM
First thing I noticed boy does this thing give you hit markers. However doing about the same with shotgun as AR/SMG sooo im terrible at this game. Sliding is rather useful for shotguns
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Post by banana on Nov 9, 2015 15:00:42 GMT -5
B3arc's nurf list: Gorgon Judge Dredge 48 All shotguns but Haymaker and 1887 especially. Am I missing anything? I don't think anything should be nerfed, the Kuda needs a small 3hk range boost and the Weevil, Razorwhack, and Dingo need something So do the shotguns that aren't the Haymaker and Argus
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Post by UrbaneVirtuoso on Nov 9, 2015 16:39:01 GMT -5
I must reiterate that the Argus is fucking awesome to use, even naked -- it's like 3arc had change of heart. A token spend, for sure.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Nov 9, 2015 19:14:58 GMT -5
I bring terrible news.
Straight from the mare's mouth.
1887 Stock 1HK0 Range - 700 Units - Reach 700 units 1887 Long Barrel 1HK0 Range - 594.6 Units - Reach 791 units.
Edito: Patched. Should be the same now.
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Post by kylet357 on Nov 9, 2015 21:37:16 GMT -5
I bring terrible news. Straight from the mare's mouth. 1887 Stock 1HK0 Range - 700 Units - Reach 700 units 1887 Long Barrel 1HK0 Range - 594.6 Units - Reach 791 units. It...it dropped the one hit kill range with long barrel on it?
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Nov 9, 2015 21:41:11 GMT -5
Yep. Test it yourself. A stock 1887 will always 1HK0 (ADS'd OFC) within its reach. A long barrel one will not. Tested on PC.
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Post by ChloeB42 (Alexcalibur42) on Nov 9, 2015 22:08:55 GMT -5
Honestly I felt that in the beta. Shotguns seemed weaker with LB, nice to know I wasn't just going insane
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Post by UrbaneVirtuoso on Nov 10, 2015 2:12:47 GMT -5
Just unlocked gold for the KRM and holy flying fuck not only am I fucking grateful all I can say is fuck this fucking shitty ass R870 reject that I had to use a fucking suppressor for completing that fucking 6-attachment challenge. Fuck this stupid fucking gun so fucking hard.
I mean, fuck.
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Post by lackingdamage on Nov 10, 2015 8:28:35 GMT -5
Official I give up with KRM. Tried to get it gold but just so bad. Can't do it Don't enjoy sadomasochism Gun is too random with too much random bullshit to make it worth using.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Nov 10, 2015 8:30:13 GMT -5
Official I give up with KRM. Tried to get it gold but just so bad. Can't do it Don't enjoy sadomasochism Gun is too random with too much random bullshit to make it worth using. Thats because the KRM is a full 8/8 pellet kill after 200 units. Remember in the Beta when DJ said they where buffing it within 200 units but nerfing it outside of? Yeah. That was it.
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Post by lackingdamage on Nov 10, 2015 9:18:16 GMT -5
Official I give up with KRM. Tried to get it gold but just so bad. Can't do it Don't enjoy sadomasochism Gun is too random with too much random bullshit to make it worth using. Thats because the KRM is a full 8/8 pellet kill after 200 units. Remember in the Beta when DJ said they where buffing it within 200 units but nerfing it outside of? Yeah. That was it. One hit kill range is 2 metres? Oh sad times.... Did the Executioner not have longer one hit kill range?
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Post by banana on Nov 10, 2015 11:11:43 GMT -5
That's 5m not 2. Same as the Kuda and Bal's 3hk i.e. trash range
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Nov 10, 2015 11:35:43 GMT -5
You can still 1KO after 200 units, you just have to hit 8/8 pellets.
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Post by lackingdamage on Nov 10, 2015 11:41:14 GMT -5
I bring terrible news. Straight from the mare's mouth. 1887 Stock 1HK0 Range - 700 Units - Reach 700 units 1887 Long Barrel 1HK0 Range - 594.6 Units - Reach 791 units. Wonder if that same on SMGs reduces the max damage range but increase min damage range would make sense
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Post by dunsparceflinch on Nov 10, 2015 13:54:47 GMT -5
Official I give up with KRM. Tried to get it gold but just so bad. Can't do it Don't enjoy sadomasochism Gun is too random with too much random bullshit to make it worth using. Thats because the KRM is a full 8/8 pellet kill after 200 units. Remember in the Beta when DJ said they where buffing it within 200 units but nerfing it outside of? Yeah. That was it. If it's 8 pellets to kill past 200 then either DJ lied about the beta patches when he said incapable of a non-lethal hit up to 250 or his team nerfed it even more between Beta and Release. My guess is the latter because I was getting much more consistency with the silenced KRM during the beta than I have been getting right now. BTW, I think that Argus long barrel issue is just for the argus, because KRM with silencer and long barrel definitely has more 1HK range/consistency than KRM with just silencer. There has to be a point where Treyarch realizes that there is no appeasing SMG/AR users when it comes to shotguns.
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Post by Disgruntled Jigglypuff on Nov 10, 2015 14:50:33 GMT -5
There has to be a point where Treyarch realizes that there is no appeasing SMG/AR users when it comes to shotguns. CoD devs haven't figured it out by now. I have no faith in the man who graced us with the thermal RPK. Look at what they did to the sniper rifles. LOOK AT IT!!
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 10, 2015 15:11:55 GMT -5
IMHO, Sniper Rifles and Shotties, if designed properly, are OP by nature.
I like how Halo treat them, they are considered "Power Weapons" and have to be earned, not everybody can equip one as in CoD. Otherwise, the devs will ALWAYS choose to keep them UP, because the advocates of such weapon classes are minority, just way of life.
(Destiny made it even more ridiculous by having them as "secondaries". Personally don't mind though because that offers me a playground to practice using them).
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Nov 10, 2015 15:15:45 GMT -5
MW2 big ammo AA-12 as Specialist weapon when?
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 10, 2015 15:18:00 GMT -5
MW2 big ammo AA-12 as Specialist weapon when? Isn't Annihilator kinda beefed up Shotty? Imagine it as: 1) shoot one single "slug"; 2) bullet has travel time (?); 3) infinite range;
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Nov 10, 2015 15:20:54 GMT -5
MW2 big ammo AA-12 as Specialist weapon when? Isn't Annihilator kinda beefed up Shotty? Imagine it as: 1) shoot one single "slug"; 2) bullet has travel time (?); 3) infinite range; Annihilator doesn't have BIG AMMOOOO.
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Post by dunsparceflinch on Nov 10, 2015 22:25:46 GMT -5
There has to be a point where Treyarch realizes that there is no appeasing SMG/AR users when it comes to shotguns. CoD devs haven't figured it out by now. I have no faith in the man who graced us with the thermal RPK. Look at what they did to the sniper rifles. LOOK AT IT!! That's the thing that baffles me. They clearly learned to never make LMGs as underpowered as they were in BO1 (excluding the M60), they learned not to make secondaries as useless as they were in BO1 and WaW, they learned how to balance perks much better, they even learned things that the original IW never learned like how to make ACOG useful (make it remove sway instead of adding it). Yet when it comes to snipers and shotguns they haven't really learned when even SHG and the new IW learned. Freaking SHG, worst CoD developer there is, learned to ignore the people complaining about dying to shotguns and snipers.
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Post by lackingdamage on Nov 11, 2015 6:11:26 GMT -5
Bring terrible news the problem child known as the KRM is now gold don't ask me how I done it You can still 1KO after 200 units, you just have to hit 8/8 pellets. Not from my experience Also feel like the aim assist on shotguns has been toned down, hipfire and ADS on console. Yet every other weapon has serious amount of aim assist.
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