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Post by dunsparceflinch on Dec 9, 2015 15:57:44 GMT -5
I noticed today while trying to complete the Specter Hero armor that the Specter camouflage no longer appears as a clear silhouette when seen; you're now a shimmering blue glowy and much easier to see. Kinda like Obi-Wan, but not as solid. Stealth nerf? It's always been that way since the main game came out. It was only particularly useful during the beta when it still didn't last long but made you pretty much invisible, as in I could literally go invisible right in front of an enemy, move around, then shotgun them Jaws style. If they nerfed the Shieva then they clearly aren't thinking things through. They should buff the Shieva to 300 RPM but make high caliber bump down the fire rate to its old RPM.
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Post by xFEARtheSHIELDx on Dec 9, 2015 16:59:38 GMT -5
I noticed today while trying to complete the Specter Hero armor that the Specter camouflage no longer appears as a clear silhouette when seen; you're now a shimmering blue glowy and much easier to see. Kinda like Obi-Wan, but not as solid. Stealth nerf? You're sure it wasn't right after you activated it? It has an ~1 second long activation look that dissappears...
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Post by GodMars on Dec 9, 2015 23:19:56 GMT -5
I noticed today while trying to complete the Specter Hero armor that the Specter camouflage no longer appears as a clear silhouette when seen; you're now a shimmering blue glowy and much easier to see. Kinda like Obi-Wan, but not as solid. Stealth nerf? You're sure it wasn't right after you activated it? It has an ~1 second long activation look that dissappears... No, it wasn't. It was weird. I haven't died using it since, so I haven't seen it again.
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Post by noscreenname on Dec 10, 2015 15:20:31 GMT -5
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Post by macnappa on Dec 10, 2015 15:57:07 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing this information. I am praying they buff the razorback!
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Post by lustindarkness on Dec 10, 2015 16:00:54 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing this information. I am praying they buff the razorback! Yes, I would also like the razorback not to suck. And the weevil. And the shotguns.
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Post by noscreenname on Dec 10, 2015 16:18:58 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing this information. I am praying they buff the razorback! Yes, I would also like the razorback not to suck. And the weevil. And the shotguns. No weevil buff confirmed. Not kidding, DJ Vahn twitter for source. Side note: I have yet to use a token on the weevil. lulz
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Post by dunsparceflinch on Dec 10, 2015 16:55:31 GMT -5
They better buff that razorback. For a "longer range SMG" it has worse 4HK range than the Kuda (Kuda has 25m 4HK range while the Razorback only has 22m 4HK range). It should have a 4HK range of 28-30m and a 3HK range that is more than 6m but less than 15m.
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Post by dunsparceflinch on Dec 10, 2015 17:42:15 GMT -5
Yes, I know, double post, but figured you all would like to see Vahn's hotfix summary thread:
https://www.reddit.com/r/blackops3/comments/3wadit/gameplay_tuning_changes_in_3525354_or/
Apparently the dredge fires slower now. Curious as to how drastic that firerate nerf was. If it still fires at 1000+ RPM then no big deal, but if it's 900RPM or lower that might become a problem because it would mean a much worse TTK.
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Post by noscreenname on Dec 10, 2015 18:04:30 GMT -5
What the hell is increased ability to control recoil?lol
M8 nerf and xr2 buff? Ok. Xr2 is best pony.
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Post by volgon on Dec 10, 2015 18:09:36 GMT -5
What the hell is increased ability to control recoil?lol M8 nerf and xr2 buff? Ok. Xr2 is best pony. XR-2 got its movement speed reduced not buffed. Probably from 96.5% to 95%.
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Post by noscreenname on Dec 10, 2015 18:16:52 GMT -5
Reading comprehension. What is that? Oh well. Still favorite gun.
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ookjawa
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Needs more shotgun.
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Post by ookjawa on Dec 10, 2015 18:17:32 GMT -5
They... They buffed the shotguns? Even the Brecci?
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Post by Aphoristic on Dec 10, 2015 18:24:01 GMT -5
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Post by lackingdamage on Dec 10, 2015 18:44:57 GMT -5
What was the point of nerfing the Haymaker and changing it later Curious what they done now to wait for Marvel....
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Post by lustindarkness on Dec 10, 2015 18:46:10 GMT -5
Well, well, well. Interesting.
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Post by UrbaneVirtuoso on Dec 10, 2015 18:47:27 GMT -5
Maybe the world wasn't as bleak after all.
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ookjawa
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Needs more shotgun.
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Post by ookjawa on Dec 10, 2015 19:05:47 GMT -5
What was the point of nerfing the Haymaker and changing it later Curious what they done now to wait for Marvel.... Considering the amount of wrecking it was doing on PC at launch (in the hands of good players, at least), I think they just overcompensated and hit it with the nerf bat a bit too hard. It's good to see that they're willing to readjust when necessary.
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Post by Usagi on Dec 11, 2015 3:04:20 GMT -5
What the hell is increased ability to control recoil? Reduced horizontal recoil but increased vertical is my guess. It doesn't explicitly say "recoil reduced." ookjawa do you still play on PC? You should join Kirby, Legit, Volgon, and I.
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Post by lackingdamage on Dec 11, 2015 3:48:18 GMT -5
What was the point of nerfing the Haymaker and changing it later Curious what they done now to wait for Marvel.... Considering the amount of wrecking it was doing on PC at launch (in the hands of good players, at least), I think they just overcompensated and hit it with the nerf bat a bit too hard. It's good to see that they're willing to readjust when necessary. Good players always poop on kids, based what I seen only good on two maps for PC.
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Post by RageHulkSmash on Dec 11, 2015 9:07:58 GMT -5
What the hell is increased ability to control recoil? Reduced horizontal recoil but increased vertical is my guess. It doesn't explicitly say "recoil reduced." I was thinking the first couple bullets get less kick maybe?
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ookjawa
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Needs more shotgun.
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Post by ookjawa on Dec 11, 2015 9:46:02 GMT -5
ookjawa do you still play on PC? You should join Kirby, Legit, Volgon, and I. I'm almost exclusively a PS4 peasant at this point. I do appreciate the invite, though.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Dec 11, 2015 9:46:40 GMT -5
He needs to maintain that 6KD on consoles.
I've been thinking about buying a PS4 as a CoD machine but eh. Not even for the easier lobbies, just so I can play game types other than TDM after 3 months.
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Post by lustindarkness on Dec 11, 2015 9:54:25 GMT -5
Reduced horizontal recoil but increased vertical is my guess. It doesn't explicitly say "recoil reduced." I was thinking the first couple bullets get less kick maybe? Horizontal/Vertical recoil makes sense. But in my mind "increased ability to control recoil" sounds like they changed the grip stats on the buffed guns.
Oh well, lets wait and see.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Dec 11, 2015 9:55:53 GMT -5
Yeah we never figured out what it meant in the 1st DIngo/HVK buff either. I don't think even Marvel knows.
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Post by banana on Dec 11, 2015 9:58:46 GMT -5
Apparently it's a new recoil mechanic in the code they added.
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Post by lustindarkness on Dec 11, 2015 10:15:03 GMT -5
BTW last night I had time for a few matches but it seems my interweb tubes were clogged with minecraft blocks and music streaming so I was skipping all over the place, but the Dingo sure felt great (maybe it was the Storm camo).
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ookjawa
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Needs more shotgun.
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Post by ookjawa on Dec 11, 2015 10:22:32 GMT -5
He needs to maintain that 6KD on consoles. Just a 6 K/D? Maybe while using a naked P-06 with Ante Up and no Scorestreaks.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Dec 11, 2015 10:29:25 GMT -5
Hey the naked P06 is still top tier (If you have a XIM).
Speaking of naked guns the naked Brecci is my new go to gun; doesn't need any attachments and lets me load up on perks/C4. If you ADS with it you can get a pretty good 2HK range and if you headshot it's a 2HK anywhere within it's reach.
I can't use the Haymaker anymore just because the Brecci has spoiled me too much. I hope DJ V has more Brecci buffs in the tube.
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Post by dunsparceflinch on Dec 11, 2015 11:52:47 GMT -5
So I tried testing out the dredge. Hard to tell because for whatever reason every single game I was in had me lag spiking (probably need to reset my console and router), but it definitely seems like it's now firing at 900 RPM, which is way too low for he damage it deals. I really don't see why they needed to nerf the fire rate of the M8 and Dredge. Their fire rates are fine. If you gotta nerf the M8, nerf the hipfire spread and slightly nerf the accuracy. Dredge should have instead had its hipfire spread and long range suppressed damage nerfed.
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