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Post by mannon on Apr 14, 2017 10:14:48 GMT -5
Anybody tried these games? I'm kind of tempted to try them out even though they are quirky and H1Z1 doesn't look that good. Still, I'm kind of drawn to the idea of a multiplayer game that's more about survival than kills or rushing objectives.
Of course I've never played Arma or DayZ so the combat style would be very new to me, but I could probably adapt.
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Post by tiesieman on Apr 24, 2017 19:16:55 GMT -5
this games so good how is nobody else playing it
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 5:46:29 GMT -5
Because there were so many crummy half-baked games in this exact genre that never left alpha because the money and streamers stopped rolling in or the microtransaction shop jewed everyone into a Pay to Win situation, thus leading in a mass dent in consumer confidence where there was no point bothering with it anymore? Yeah... there were a lot of those a couple years ago. Though if this is worth posting about I guess not all hope is lost.
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Post by Pegasus Actual on Apr 25, 2017 6:28:26 GMT -5
I didn't play any of the older versions of the concept. PUBG has been pretty fun, but I haven't played that many rounds. I can't speak to it being any good for anyone burnt out on the genre.
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Post by tiesieman on Apr 25, 2017 6:55:26 GMT -5
the concept has always been amazing and this is the most competent attempt at it by far. 20 tick servers, great fast matchmaking, good loot distribution and it strikes the perfect balance between clumsy realism and game mechanics
its biggest issues atm is some desyncs (particularly at the start of games when everyone is picking up loot) but overall the game is in a good state already
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 7:15:43 GMT -5
Okay, but if a month ticks by and you guys are raving about a completely different zombie survival open-world FFA game by then I would have proven my point.
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Post by tiesieman on Apr 25, 2017 8:32:48 GMT -5
nah this is the first one that hooked me too dude the rest of m were complete ass
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Post by mannon on Apr 25, 2017 8:58:28 GMT -5
Actually this is not a zombie survival open-world FFA. This is actually something of a new genre that began as a Day-Z mod, moved on to an Arma III mod, and then has had several commercial games built on the premise. In fact both of the original mods were by PlayerUnknown and he not only worked with the devs to create this version he also consulted on H1Z1:King of the Kill.
The difference between this and the survival-them-ups is there's no zambonies, no food or any actual survival mechanics. It's just everybody parachutes down, gathers loot, and kills each other until there's only one person or team left as the winner. To force confrontation there's basically a randomized circle that shrinks periodically and if you don't get inside it you die. My understanding is that the Arma III mod is the most tactical and realistic, H1Z1:KotK is the most arcadey and Battlegrounds is trying to find the sweet spot in the middle.
Still pretty early and there are definitely some desync issues, but the game looks fun. I was kinda tempted to try the H1Z1 version, but it didn't totally appeal to me. This one's got much nicer looking graphics and I like that it's a little bit more tactical and realistic, but without going full Arma.
Unfortunately I can't actually afford this game right now even though it's only $30. Maybe later. I wouldn't mind if they fixed some more bugs and improved the netcode a bit before I really got involved too.
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Post by Aphoristic on Apr 25, 2017 13:31:28 GMT -5
Let me know when a AAA dev makes one.
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Post by mannon on Apr 25, 2017 15:51:36 GMT -5
Bluehole Inc developed Tera. I suppose that's not a long history and I think they are Korean, but still pretty major game.
Daybreak Game Company has a long list of things they were behind as they were formerly SOE which was formerly Verant Interactive. They created Everquest in particular, but also Planetside 1 & 2, Star Wars Galaxies, The Matrix Online, and DC Universe Online among others.
Granted neither of them are Blizzard or Valve, but where exactly do you draw the line at what is and isn't triple A? Given Daybreak's past I would have to say that they definitely have been AAA in the past at least. But that begs the question what counts? Is it once AAA always AAA or can a company lose AAA status and if so by what measure? *shrug*
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Apr 25, 2017 23:32:59 GMT -5
Well to be fair so do you.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 8:42:37 GMT -5
Only The Avatar can bring balance to this thread.
Or Jerry. Whoever's available.
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Post by mannon on Apr 26, 2017 10:13:02 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 4:01:30 GMT -5
Some guy infiltrates a group of Chinese players playing together.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2017 0:16:17 GMT -5
There was a Player Unkown's Battlegrounds event a short while ago, and roughly 80 people from all frags of life came together for an ultimate showdown. There were pro CoD players, pro Battlefield players, definitely some CS:GO pros along with many streamers and youtubers like Muselk and Driftor joining the fight. The matches were utter chaos, great entertainment all-around.
There's actually a highlight where on Day 1 game 3 Drift0r makes it in the top 50% among all the sweaty tryhards, which was pretty neat to see.
Day 1 also featured a korean guy who got in 9th one match because he hoarded first aid materials, stayed outside the circle, and constantly healed himself as he automatically took damage.
Also because the circle in the late game doesn't account for distribution of players you can end up in situations where it's the final two teams squaring off in a tiny circle, and most of the time RNGesus screws over the guys who are suddenly stuck with the offensive disadvantage.
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Post by Wonder Showzen on Sept 3, 2017 12:13:35 GMT -5
I would definitely be I interested in getting some tips and tricks for PUBG collected and posted here, in hopes for an eventual sticky-post. I will post some of my tips when I am not on smartphone.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 5:13:40 GMT -5
I guess I sat through a load of god-tier FPS players play this game about a dozen times- I think I can dissect a few general things that are probably obvious to most people.
RNGESUS RULES THIS LAND. Don't lose your cool if you get pimp-slapped by him. This is very important because I have seen a ridiculous number of deaths caused by this. The circle will be on the other side of the map, placing everyone else between you and a remote chance of surviving the next circle collapse. The drop crate will land far away from you. You might somehow get the drop crate, get a super powerful Chinese bullpup, then die 100 yards away riding an ATV. All because you hit a small bump, flew off the vehicle, and died on impact. Happened Day 1 match 2 really early on, it was hilarious. Being far from the white circle is a huge killer, though.
THE KIT MAKES THE WINNER -If there's 90 people left on the server an UZI is all you need to stay alive. If there's 30 or fewer left you have a pebble launcher. Know what stage of the game you're at and gauge how assertive you should be based on your kit. -You can see around corners, above shorter walls- so can everyone else. If you see an outhouse or a tower at any distance you can bet a sniper will be there. Likewise any building in the mid-late game will almost always have a lurker if the area is important enough -Assault rifles with 4x/8x scopes seem to dominate. Sniper rifles and shotguns have their uses, but since a lot of firefights happen in rifle range don't take both at once -I wouldn't recommend this, but it has worked before. It won't get you first place, and it's not as fun, but the Korean team that tried it against all the sweaty smart players sure got pretty far doing this. A surplus of medical supplies means you can cheese and outlive everyone else on the server, which can be very useful for staying outside the blue zone for a while in an attempt to outlive everyone.
WITHOUT MOVEMENT THERE IS NO COMBAT -Vehicles are a godsend for getting to the circle without having to spend all your scavenging time running. Just be sure to avoid straight or wide open areas like beaches or bridges since you're a lot more likely to get pot-shotted to death out there. Likewise you want to constantly be on the move in a vehicle when going through dangerous territory. If someone does shoot at you- never retread that position -You can strafe a little while looting- very useful if you're very exposed while doing so -If you're in the white circle early and it's mid to late game you have a combat advantage against anyone trying to get past the border of the circle. Camp away! -Keep in mind many other players are probably doing the same- always check your flanks in this situation -If you're not aiming to take on a lot of firefights the closest point between the blue and white circle is less heated -If you have time and you're on offense the least heated spot is generally where you want to be getting into the white circle
Haven't seen all the matchups with teams. I guess not reviving people mid-combat is a bit of a must. Will be updating this later.
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Post by Broadband on Sept 4, 2017 6:44:20 GMT -5
Tried PUBG for about 1.5 hours (was able to refund it, thank god) and I did not have fun. There is literally no reason to not camp, just land in the southwest portion of the map and camp - the play area tends to shrink to here so it makes the most sense. I made it to the last 10 in the three matches I played. Kill times are very fast, almost CoD levels of fast. I can imagine this game is fun with friends, but that should never be a valid defense for a game since any multiplayer game that is at least somewhat functional is fun with friends. Hell, cleaning up roadkill is fun with friends. To me though the real kicker for this game is that they're asking $30.00 for an Early Access title that is filled to the brim with bugs & glitches, not to mention it runs like crap. I could almost tolerate this were it not for the fact that not only was this being sold for $30.00, but if they didn't already put microtransactions in an Early Access title! At least PUBG will bite the dust once another fad, FOTM Battle Royale game comes out.
By the way I'm pretty sure >50% of the people playing this game are Chinese & Koreans.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2017 0:41:44 GMT -5
I don't blame you. I just came for the people playing- not the game itself. Imagine a professional basketball team squaring off against a professional baseball team in a game of ice hockey- that's what this event is.
EDIT: Also the more of this event I watch the less sure I am about the camera work. The cameraman really whiffs a lot of important battles- eighty people can be hard to keep track of but holy hell how do you miss out on the final firefight?
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Post by Will on Sept 6, 2017 11:11:29 GMT -5
I own both. H1Z1 is shit. PUBG is well-executed. Both are only fun if you have a team of friends - can be a ton of fun if done together in person at a LAN party
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2017 3:43:27 GMT -5
Or if your name is Tecnosh
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Post by Pegasus Actual on Nov 21, 2017 16:29:27 GMT -5
I guess we can add Fortnite to the list, seeing as it's super popular cartoon PUBG for Minecraft and console babbies. Since I play with a lot of Xbox babbies I've played way too much of it. The fort building crap really ruins the end game for me. Aside from that it's ok. The weapons are too RNG spready. But otherwise it's a reasonably fun faster paced PUBG knockoff. But the way it plays just makes it feel much less intense or satisfying.
Meanwhile I've finally gotten going a bit on PUBG. But I've hit a bit of a wall. The SBMM keeps putting me in tougher lobbies.. during my first 50-100 games I got into 5 final 2s, and whiffed them all. And now closer to 200 games I'm not getting better than 5th most of the time. My 'skill' rank keeps going up despite never getting a win, and despite my k/d being in the 0.80 range. I'm all for competition in general, but I don't know if a 100 player game mode really needs skill based matchmaking. On the bright side I guess the leaderboards reset monthly so I'll have a better chance to get a win in another 10 days. I'm starving. I need that chicken dinner.
I switched to random squads, and despite getting nothing but Chinese over the mic from my randoms, I clutched out a 1v2 to win that quarter-chicken meal in TWO games.
I've been doing mostly 3rd person but kind of feel like maybe I should switch to first person. That feels more sweaty. But then again it kind of sucks getting ambushed by the 3rd person invisipeeks. Also I am INCREDIBLY lazy... and just the fact that the search always defaults to 3rd person makes me far more likely to stick with it.
Xbox launch in a few weeks. Vaulting and new bullet travel physics coming soon as well. So between that and the chicken starvation I just haven't really played in the last week or so after going really hard at it for like 10 days.
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Post by Pegasus Actual on Feb 17, 2018 2:46:22 GMT -5
Yeah, Xbox version is ass for many many reasons. Though at least on X it mostly loads in assets. Mostly. It helps if you have a fast external drive. Somehow it has gotten worse and worse with the more recent patches.
PC version is pretty great in 1.0. Performance is solid. First person mode is definitely my go-to these days. The PC meta is far more agreeable as well. Not as much vehicles as weapons bullshit. Though that has died down on Xbox a bit as they gradually have made the vehicles into bigger and bigger deathtraps. Also nobody really fights early on and that leads to way too many players for the circle sizes. Some would argue that the PC has the opposite problem, with too many dying at School and the like leading to a slow mid-game but it's just about right for me. I like doing long drops with relatively low risk and then positioning myself into lower population parts of the circle, though I will aggressively defend/clear those areas so I'm not quite a scumbag corner camper. The replay feature on PC is also great for figuring out what was going on around you, what you missed that you shouldn't have, and ultimately why you died.
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Post by iw5000 on Feb 20, 2018 10:46:26 GMT -5
Good post. I have been looking into this game.
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Post by iw5000 on Apr 2, 2018 13:20:03 GMT -5
I am playing PUBG and really liking it. It's fun.
Yes, I know everyone is currently playing the shiny new fun game Fortnite. Don't care.
Anyways...
I'm not getting a lot of kills (my KD sucks), but I don't really give a shit. I like the hiding and tactical aspects. Getting a kill feels more meaningful in this game, than the ridiculous one feels in COD where you play on these small cramped maps and everyone just mows down everyone else. I like the hiding and sneaking around. I like everything about this game. I can just jump in and play. There seems to be no leveling. No pay to win. No annoying prestige options or having to play thousands of hours to get certain guns (Destiny). There are loot crates, but whatever, haven't come across one yet. There's also a separation of solo players from group players...so no more of that annoying playing against other squads if you are solo. I hear people complaining about draw distances and some other graphical things, but it seems fine enough to me. The game doesn't even seem to have that many glitches.
What's not to like about this game? I have played about ten hours so far and have not gotten annoyed once.
The only frustrating thing so far (in a good way) is I have finished 2nd twice and in the top five a few other times. If I could somehow learn to aim, I might have won one of those final finishes. In the second, I had a clear shot on the other person remaining, his back to me, and I just missed my 3rd, 4th plus shots with my pistol. My fault.
What's amusing is in one of my 2nd place finishes, I didn't even kill a single person. I played the map perfectly in sneaking around. I thought that was fun.
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Post by Pegasus Actual on Apr 2, 2018 18:45:59 GMT -5
The game doesn't even seem to have that many glitches. That's usually not the first thought to pop into a PUBG player's mind. Especially on Xbox these days! I think some of the glitches are less apparent in solo. The game can really struggle with say a squads match where three squads come together in a giant death cloud. I'm kind of surprised the game got as huge as it did. It is relatively slow paced and has a lot of mil-sim-y aspects that you usually find in very niche products. Anyway, the game is very unforgiving as it has zero aim assist. Between this and Siege... it's almost a trend on console! If you were in a final 2 and you felt the need to switch to your pistol, then you were definitely under-geared. I think it's helpful to play for gunfight experience before you start focusing too much on getting wins. That means dropping on School, Pochinki, and Military Base. Getting good at getting to the ground first, or vaguely tied for first. Figuring where to land to get some loot quickly. The thing about stealthing around and playing to get to the end game is you just won't generate enough fights to get a feel for the combat. I'm not sure if you are playing first person or third person. First person is probably a bit sweatier but I think it's a better game that way. I recommend you try them both out a bit and decide which way you want to go, because third person peeking fundamentally affects the way the game plays. Best YouTuber for tips and guides: www.youtube.com/channel/UCfK7qpS954pk14YvDCsWCuw/videos -- but it's a PC player, so not everything applies, console has reduced vertical recoil for instance, and is way behind on maps. But the weapon guides, ranging guides, building push, circle management and mythbusters stuff should all be reasonably relevant. And the videos are nice and short, zero fat. Anyway, if you have any questions I've put in ~500 hours on the Xbox version (yikes). The short version is, try to get a 5.56 AR. M416, SCAR, M16 in general order of preference. Try to get at least level 2 helmet/armor/backpack. It makes a huge difference. Don't carry that many bandages. First aid kits are good to have (though keeping more than 4 is starting to push it depending on what kind of backpack and vest you have). Boosters (energy drinks and painkillers) are probably way more important than you might think just starting out. They're usually the first thing I will grab when looting a corpse. In solos Kar98k is good as it will one shot someone in the head unless they have the level 3 helmet. Don't try to Kar people who are running around, but if you find someone sitting behind a tree, or prone in a field, take out your Kar and pop the head off. Oh yeah, 4x and 8x scopes are gold as well. Don't pass them up.
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Post by iw5000 on Apr 2, 2018 19:47:27 GMT -5
Thanks for all the tips.
Good advice about deliberately getting into some fights. Very true. Take some early exits....but getting the shooting down will ultimately make me better. Good point.
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Post by iw5000 on Apr 2, 2018 20:14:37 GMT -5
Oh year...I’ve been playing almost all TPP. I have no real background with that style of play, almost everything before being FPP (CoD, Doom, UnrealT, Destiny, etc)
I like how one can cheat corners and ledges with TPP. Of course, others can do it to me too.
Do you find it easier to shoot in FPP?
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Post by qupie on Apr 3, 2018 7:03:58 GMT -5
Thanks for all the tips. Good advice about deliberately getting into some fights. Very true. Take some early exits....but getting the shooting down will ultimately make me better. Good point. This right here is the single most important thing to learn in these kind of games imho. I play fortnite, and won't go into that further. But the things that made me a significantly better player are: Learn to fight (drop early in busy area's. I don't like to go into the most crowded one (the only city in fortnite), as it plays differently from about every single other part of the map. But dropping in somewhat busy places (towns) lets you learn how to loot fast, how to fight fast, and when to take the battle and when to avoid it. Keep dropping in the same, semi busy place, and you learn that town down to perfection. Learn when to take the fight, and when not to. Evaluate every death. Would I have died if I did x? Learn from your mistakes. Don't blame the game. Sure RNG is a bitch, doesn't mean that is the only reason you died. Learn which weapons you want and stick with it. I know it works slightly different in other battle royale games. But in fortnite, you only have 5 inventory slots. I know in advance which weapon I will give up if I need to grab healing in a hurry (my 2nd shotgun). Might not always be the absolute best decision, but often it is more important to commit to a decision, than to stay in a weird in between state. Loot fast and stick to the plan. That point is really really important in Fortnite at least. Commit. Don't go chasing a guy, only to go hide when you are close. Either push or don't. Either camp or don't. Master weapons you like, this is extremely useful when playing squads later. At the beginning I mastered the explosives and scoped AR, while another friend mastered the sniper. When I had the choice in a solo game, I always picked the explosives. Learn your personal strengths, and play accordingly. Sure sniping is cool, but if you suck at it, acknowledge it and focus on other things, at least in the beginning. Once you get the hang of that and have a few wins, you can go back and try and focus on other factors. Always build (JK). Good luck! P.s. Fortnite is the better game
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