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Post by markopolo on Jan 16, 2018 15:11:12 GMT -5
First encounter for Leviathan is Pools, Challenge is on Pools.
Order is Pools (Challenge) > Dogs > Gauntlet> Calus
Challenge for Pools: Someone must stand in middle room pool at all times (NO JUMPING AND KILL THOSE PSIONS!)
Preferred Method -> Assign 1 person for Challenge role to always stay in middle and kill Adds. Other 5 Fireteam Members rotate in a Clockwise fashion (TL>TR>BR>BL) while always grabbing a new Psionic Protection buff in the middle in between rotations. Challenge person can refresh buff as needed after person rotates.
Alternative Method with slower rotations -> Assign 1 person for Challenge role to always stay in middle and kill Adds. 1 Team Member will volunteer to Self Rotate themselves out (When stacks get to 0, run to middle, refresh buff and run back to their plate), Other 4 Members will rotate in a Triangle (TL>TR>BR>TL) while skipping the BL (self rotator) and always grabbing a new Psionic Protection buff in the middle in between rotations. Challenge person can refresh buff as needed after person rotates.
Underbelly Routes:
Entrance to Pools -> Staff Plate Entrance (Stand on all 4 buttons in order BL>BR>TL>TR) -> Left through door up Ramp -> Bottom of ramp take a left to Aqueduct -> Follow halls to Pools
Entrance to Pools 2 -> Waterfall Entrance (Hit all 6 levers at same time in Maintenance Room) -> Jump up Pipes -> Hallway to Aqueduct -> Halls to Pools
Pools to Dogs -> Hit levers on Right side of room (TL>BL>BR>TR) -> Drop down near Top Right -> Follow hall to Drain -> Run across to Drain Pipe -> Follow Pipe to Dogs
Dogs to Gauntlet -> Gold Button near L3 (Tree-3) Flower in back corner -> Bottom door to Irrigation -> Across to Axes Symbol -> Through Hanging Garden -> Follow hallway and jump up to Gauntlet
Gauntlet to Calus -> Activate Levers (BL>TR>TL>BR) -> Drop down (do not go out side door) -> Through Hanging Gardens -> Through Irrigation across to Cup Symbol -> Through Conduit -> Activate Lift -> Through Spark Room -> Drop down to red pipe -> Follow to Throne Room
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Post by markopolo on Jan 16, 2018 15:11:31 GMT -5
Nightfall is pyramidion with torrent and time warp...again.
Anyway, here's how to casually solo this nightfall cause LUL PULSE GRENADES.
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Post by markopolo on Jan 16, 2018 15:18:22 GMT -5
The hotfix was to allow players who do not own Curse of Osiris to earn Season 2 rewards within Faction Rallies and Iron Banner
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Post by hebbnh on Jan 16, 2018 19:19:31 GMT -5
To the surprise of absolutely nobody, Bungo strikes again! Lost Sector chests are now subject to faction token throttling if you open too many too quickly. Too many being 2 and too quickly being within 10 minutes, at which point no lost sector chest will drop faction tokens for a further 10 minutes. Just...why? Let people fucking play the game how they want. The best part? The throttling can be bypassed by quitting out and restarting your game. Literally the fastest way to accomplish something in D2 is to quit playing D2. Unbelievable.
I actually thought about jumping on for the faction rally too, then took a quick glance at reddit and lol nope. I’m not sure why I even bother keeping my hopes up for this game anymore. This company clearly has no idea what they’re doing.
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Post by bradman on Jan 16, 2018 20:10:36 GMT -5
It's actually an F U to players, I believe it is an intentional "sending a message" type thing. Screw you, use real money to get the stuff you really want. That's the hill they've chosen to die on.
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Post by hebbnh on Jan 16, 2018 20:28:35 GMT -5
Tess is selling the six-shooter exotic emote from season 1. After they told people on stream that exotic emotes were season-exclusive and it was their last chance to get season 1 stuff. That’s EA level anti-consumer bullshit right there.
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Post by wings on Jan 17, 2018 3:22:35 GMT -5
Looks like the lack of competition in the loot shooter market has resulted in Bungie doing this stuff. Only reason why I've probably not totally abandoned Destiny 2 is because I have a close knit raid group and we raid each week even when some of us don't need anything from it. We even went back to Wrath of the Machine to see if anyone could get Nanophoenix to drop. I'm convinced that the D1 Crucible was left the way it was partly to "encourage" players to drop D1 and buy D2.
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Post by hebbnh on Jan 17, 2018 9:57:56 GMT -5
Oh, by the way, the only weapons dropping from the faction rally are the season 1 versions. Apparently the "fix" to allow all players, regardless of DLC ownership, to join in the faction rally was to remove any potential CoO rewards.
Current top post on r/DTG? Destiny 2 - Killed by the Architects. Yup, that pretty much says it all.
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Post by markopolo on Jan 17, 2018 10:16:29 GMT -5
Yea.... I found all of this weird too... First of all, I was able to double dip the Wastes? chest (the one that everyone did from the last FR) twice before it stopped giving me stuff... so I got 9 tokens from it instead of the single 3.... but then I some PE's with TheHawkNY and there were times that I didn't get any faction tokens. And it wasn't just the EDZ, it was Mercury too. And when I completed the FWC milestone for looting enemy suppies in lost sectors of the EDZ, I got something like 3 tokens? That's a lot for so little Then when I did turn in my 100 to get 5 ranks for the ornament, the only weapon it gave me was the fusion rifle. Even I can't be devils advocate on this one.... I'm pretty much a 30% PSN store sale on the Division from jumping ship... bullet sponges be damned.
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Post by markopolo on Jan 17, 2018 10:18:57 GMT -5
Honestly.... I think the only way to satisfy the masses is to fire people... and I hate saying things like that because so many people jump to that on r/DtG and I hate it when they do that.
But right now, it can't really be an accident; it has to be some form of incompetence or deception
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Post by markopolo on Jan 17, 2018 12:43:48 GMT -5
Well... they explained it on the Bungo website
"We're aware of player reports about Lost Sectors not granting rewards. There was a throttle added to address an issue in the previous Faction Rallies where players were earning 500 tokens per hour. The patchnote concerning this change has been updated to correctly state that all Lost Sector chests are subject to this throttle.
Right now, if a player opens more than 2 chests in a 10 minute period, they will not receive additional rewards from Lost Sector Chests for 10 minutes. This does not prevent players from completing milestones related to Lost Sector chests."
First of all..... 500 per hour? Those are basic numbers... YOU GOTTA GET THOSE ROOKIE NUMBERS UP BABY!!!!!
Second of all... 2 chests in 10 minutes is hellaf$$king easy. Even if you are a filthy 306 level causal who plays the game for 2 hours a week, you can 2 of those LS chests in 5 minutes.
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Post by markopolo on Jan 17, 2018 13:40:25 GMT -5
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Post by hebbnh on Jan 17, 2018 13:45:06 GMT -5
That's my understanding as well. Utter stupidity.
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Post by wings on Jan 17, 2018 13:56:47 GMT -5
Honestly.... I think the only way to satisfy the masses is to fire people... and I hate saying things like that because so many people jump to that on r/DtG and I hate it when they do that. But right now, it can't really be an accident; it has to be some form of incompetence or deception I doubt it is accidental. I feel like Bungie are throwing a tantrum because they didn't get away with their anti-consumer/gamer nonsense in the recent months. Diablo 3 had a bad launch and staff got fired/reshuffled and it was turned into a great game. Unfortunately, it seems the best staff Bungie could turn to were the ones that have or were fired. And all those content creators that are ditching Destiny 2 must be in the hundreds now.
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Post by markopolo on Jan 17, 2018 15:01:10 GMT -5
I sorta agree Wings.... as much as people are loving Christopher Barrett's tweets and hoping for the best...
I think he's doing a fantastic job of distancing himself from the rest of the studio, making himself more marketable as a saviour, rather than the reason, why D2 failed.
But then again, there could be a silent majority who 1) likes, or 2) doesn't care what is going on and just plays and enjoys the game and buys it.
A student made a "parallel" to D2 and Trump getting elected; how everyone thought he had no chance to win, and yet he did.... that as people rant and rail about D2, yet there is a silent majority who plays and enjoys the game and doesn't give a $hit and genuinely enjoys the game and is more than willing to play and buy silver to support it
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Post by bradman on Jan 17, 2018 23:31:33 GMT -5
That's unbelievably dumb. Like I posted upthread, it almost seems like hostility at this point.
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Post by wings on Jan 18, 2018 5:40:54 GMT -5
But then again, there could be a silent majority who 1) likes, or 2) doesn't care what is going on and just plays and enjoys the game and buys it. This is my instinct that their target audience are what you described and probably why some players have considered Destiny 2 to be a minimum viable product. Some reasons I guess would be: 1. Going from a raid and a strike integrated into the story with The Dark Below to a raid lair with one true encounter and two strikes that are copy pasted story missions. The armour on the raid lair is pretty dire aesthetically and, while it's subjective to an extent, it doesn't matter if you earn it or not because we don't have perks etc beyond the mobility/resilience/recovery stat nodes. The grenade launcher is bad and the shotgun is okay but that's because it is full auto and in void. You're still better off with swords for close range kills if you wish to use power ammo for that. Argos, the boss for the raid lair, is probably the best raid encounter Bungie ever made and it will never be fully appreciated because of the direction Bungie has taken the game. Bungie say they don't want to force us to feel we have to wear specific items but they did a good job at ignoring that with how important the recovery stat is. Meanwhile games like World of Warcraft have been using transmog for years. Were the removal of raid perks etc to help incentivise the Eververse armour? Even the prestige raid isn't usually worth doing as it doesn't give us a double roll for drops like Vault of Glass did, nor do we have guaranteed weapon cores from it either. The challenges on the prestige version of the Leviathan raid offers players the two most difficult raid encounters Bungie has designed in my opinion (Royal Pools and the Throne Room) but there's no need to do them. In D1 if you did the challenge on hard difficulty, you got emblems as a reward for that specific encounter and these eventually counted towards record book progress. 2. The restriction of three meditations per week upon subsequent DLC being added. Give us one or two extra meditiations per week if we have the DLC. 3. Crucible being exclusive to 4v4 just to try and hide latency issues and queue times rather than give players choice in which game modes they want to play and have a better matchmaking system so you won't penalise players for their skill (assuming SBMM is in the game). Bungie just removes the red bar indicators rather than remove the horrifically lagging players like Rainbow Six: Siege does. I've heard we're getting Crucible game mode additions but I'm guessing this will be released close to or on the day when a new game is released. Like this is supposed to be content when it is just stuff we had in D1 removed. Also, why not make Mayhem in rotation longer or permanent? It would probably be more popular than Trials of the Nine. This is probably the best way to feel the power fantasy that loot shooters all give (except D2) but Bungie catered towards crybabies and stubborn players who wanted it to be Halo/COD and we've had raid encounters changed because of Crucible-centric nerfs, like the range to shotguns. 4. Making exotics have minor gameplay changes. Even the most sought after exotics like Twilight Garrison, Nothing Monacles, and Bones of Eao pale in comparison to some gear in other looters. The players who feel most attached to these exotics are likely the ones most invested in the game and not the target audience Bungie is after. Also, why make those kind of exotics when you can grant a Warlock helmet to give reduced cooldown on abilities instead? So much easier. 5. Going out of their way to make Dawning shaders dismantle into shards instead of Bright Dust while the no respawn bug still plagues the raid won't help Eververse being considered the endgame/spendgame. 6. Tried making vanilla content like Iron Banner and Faction Rally as DLC by associating all content with a new level cap rather than by new content itself. Since light level is basically a gate to doing specific content, it doesn't matter if non-DLC owners reach the new cap from a gameplay perspective. Bungie could easily have new guns drop from these events and either allow non-DLC to equip them, like The Division, or require players needing the approriate DLC license if they do drop, like Borderlands. And all of the new guns I've seen are just reskins of what we already have anyway. The fact that I've seen people take issue with players without DLC trying to get the reskinned faction rally weapons is probably an indictment of the value of money that the DLC gave. 7. The removal of the depth of exotic quests we had in D1. We've gone from OG Thorn, Outbreak Prime and Black Spindle to MIDA. 8. Grinding XP takes too long without the x3 buff so there's not much to playing once you've used them up. 9. The vault being limited to 200 items, which is smaller than we had for D1 that was on previous generation consoles who were, supposedly, "holding the game back". The target audience probably won't care to collect as much stuff as the more invested ones.
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Post by TheHawkNY on Jan 18, 2018 10:10:52 GMT -5
Video games are supposed to be an escape, but between Bungie and Trump, it feels like I'm under constant assault by incompetence.
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Post by markopolo on Jan 18, 2018 10:53:47 GMT -5
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Post by markopolo on Jan 18, 2018 11:07:21 GMT -5
Video games are supposed to be an escape, but between Bungie and Trump, it feels like I'm under constant assault by incompetence. wanna jump to the Divison with me when it goes on sale? I'm missing a grind and being showered with loot
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Post by bradman on Jan 18, 2018 11:11:28 GMT -5
Even I can't be devils advocate on this one.... I'm pretty much a 30% PSN store sale on the Division from jumping ship... bullet sponges be gosh darn golly gee whized. Do it, you need hot loot and a place to grind. I have over 1100 hours played, ready to help new agents. I'm on almost every day.
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Post by markopolo on Jan 18, 2018 11:23:53 GMT -5
Even I can't be devils advocate on this one.... I'm pretty much a 30% PSN store sale on the Division from jumping ship... bullet sponges be gosh darn golly gee whized. Do it, you need hot loot and a place to grind. I have over 1100 hours played, ready to help new agents. I'm on almost every day. All set.... but I'm not paying $120 to do so. I still have a bit to do in Destiny... get PMP3 to level 25 and open up mercury.... I'll still play DLC2 because I paid for it. But yea.... DLC #3 isn't looking so good for D2 right now
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Post by TheHawkNY on Jan 18, 2018 11:26:51 GMT -5
Video games are supposed to be an escape, but between Bungie and Trump, it feels like I'm under constant assault by incompetence. wanna jump to the Divison with me when it goes on sale? I'm missing a grind and being showered with loot Honestly, I was already thinking about it. I've been swapping back and forth between D2 (where there literally isn't anything I can earn) and BO3 (where there's plenty I can earn, but it never gives it to me). GameStop has it for $18 used. bradman What are we missing out on if we don't have the DLC? Will we be locked out of a lot of things?
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Post by bradman on Jan 18, 2018 11:27:04 GMT -5
Yeah, it goes on sale all the time. You just missed a sale on the season pass as well. A disc copy would be dirt cheap at this point, it goes for like $10 here.
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Post by bradman on Jan 18, 2018 11:29:51 GMT -5
wanna jump to the Divison with me when it goes on sale? I'm missing a grind and being showered with loot Honestly, I was already thinking about it. I've been swapping back and forth between D2 (where there literally isn't anything I can earn) and BO3 (where there's plenty I can earn, but it never gives it to me). GameStop has it for $18 used. bradman What are we missing out on if we don't have the DLC? Will we be locked out of a lot of things? There's plenty of stuff to do without it, the three modes are standalone, they build up your dude, but not necessary to do so. That being said, it comes highly recommended. You could get the cheapo disc version, see if it tickles your jibblies, and go from there. Every activity is rewarding, yet none of them are necessary, if that makes sense. No loot is exclusive to a mode. No gear is behind a loot box, either, just beanie caps and dances, which you earn through playin, anyway. Just tweaking your build can be absorbing, there are so many variations, yet nothing is OP or meta. Play your way, bruh.
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Post by markopolo on Jan 18, 2018 11:54:25 GMT -5
Buying a disc? What is this? 2010? Am I back playing CoD Ghosts? Next you're going to tell me that I need to pay for porn? Buying a piece of plastic.... Bradley Montcalm George Francis Montgomery Phillip Maximilian Man XVIII..... never change
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Post by markopolo on Jan 18, 2018 11:56:41 GMT -5
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Post by wings on Jan 18, 2018 13:06:05 GMT -5
Damn. How many Community managers does Bungie need?
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Post by markopolo on Jan 18, 2018 13:25:03 GMT -5
gosh darn golly gee whiz. How many Community managers does Bungie need? If I had to take a guess, I think DeeJ's getting tired of this, and they're advertising the position to give Cosmo the job, with Dmg taking over for Cosmo
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Post by bradman on Jan 18, 2018 13:44:00 GMT -5
Buying a disc? What is this? 2010? Am I back playing CoD Ghosts? Next you're going to tell me that I need to pay for porn? Buying a piece of plastic.... Bradley Montcalm George Francis Montgomery Phillip Maximilian Man XVIII..... never change I have nearly 50 games and all are digital. I was giving you the cheapest option. If you hated the game you could get a couple bucks back out of it.
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