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Post by GodMars on May 29, 2019 14:03:44 GMT -5
“Modern Warfare” is the only title we have for the new game for far. Official reveal is 5/30. Drift0r is creaming his jeans over this, and he’s seen what they’re working on with his own eyes. And before you guys get all weird about him, he’s been shitting on CoD and Activision for a while now. I’m going to take it as a positive sign until I shouldn’t.
Will Activision Foxtrot this up? Probably, but for now it definitely has my interest.
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Post by Pegasus Actual on May 30, 2019 1:29:55 GMT -5
Lol, the preemptive Drifty defense force. That's a good one. Just glancing at his recent videos, looks like he's got... a fake dognapping video... and a really weird low-testosterone dollar shave club promotion. Yeah if I was that dude I'd be pretty hyped for a new COD too, sweet jesus.
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Post by GodMars on May 30, 2019 12:12:20 GMT -5
October 25th
Price and the boys are back. Been waiting to get back to this style of Call of Duty for a very long time.
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Post by GodMars on May 30, 2019 12:23:08 GMT -5
-This is a reboot with no connection to the existing MW trilogy. It will feature characters (like Price) from that trilogy, however. They've worked to make the game feel grounded and current. -There's no season pass, and they plan to add free post-launch maps and content. -Apparently there is going to be some form of console and PC cross play. -And, HOLY SHIT, Modern Warfare is making use of a new game engine. -Three game editions coming in at $59, $79, and $99 -CoD points are returning -Co-op is back, and it sounds like it may be for more than just two players. -All game modes are connected. For instance, weapon progress in one carries over to the other.
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Post by Pegasus Actual on May 30, 2019 13:17:47 GMT -5
The story trailer looks good, and I do like the modern warfare 'realistic' tone. But rebooting like this is still kind of goofy.
I wonder what the PC/console cross-play is... if it's just co-op then it's barely a selling point. If it's 'for real' crossplay it's going to be a fucking mess, with PC players complaining about console players having aim assist and console players complaining about m+k. If it's the PC player drags console party members into PC lobbies like Fortnite... I don't think there's enough of a PC player base for it to accomplish anything.
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Post by GodMars on May 30, 2019 15:41:14 GMT -5
Sony still has some exclusivity when it comes to content. No word on what that content is.
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Post by scubasteven on May 30, 2019 23:16:00 GMT -5
-This is a reboot with no connection to the existing MW trilogy. It will feature characters (like Price) from that trilogy, however. They've worked to make the game feel grounded and current. -There's no season pass, and they plan to add free post-launch maps and content. -Apparently there is going to be some form of console and PC cross play. -And, HOLY SHIT, Modern Warfare is making use of a new game engine. -Three game editions coming in at $59, $79, and $99 -CoD points are returning -Co-op is back, and it sounds like it may be for more than just two players. -All game modes are connected. For instance, weapon progress in one carries over to the other.
Highlights:
- "The engine has been radically retooled with an eye for real-life accuracy, kicking off with a move to a state-of-the-art physically-based rendering system built on exploiting photogrammetry - the science of scanning objects directly, replicating not just their shape but material properties such as their roughness and reflectivity, essential for integration into a brand new lighting solution."
- "Helped by the integration of an advanced culling algorithm, Modern Warfare is capable of delivering over five times the geometry of prior series entries"
- Every single light source within the game is volumetric in nature, with the developers able to adjust the density of the atmosphere to the point of including dust motes, simulating humidity or introducing ground-level fog. You may catch crepuscular rays (god rays if you like) but these are not post-process additions, but rather the actual results of accurately rendered volumetric lights beaming through geometry. ... it's an example of a rendering feature baked in at the lowest level (you can't disable it on PC)"
- Also impressive is the inclusion of what's described as 'spectral rendering' - a system that sees Call of Duty render everything in real-time beyond the visible light spectrum, encompassing infrared and thermal heat radiation. The objective here is very straightforward: lighting is extremely important in Modern Warfare
- "Not only are target and environment temperatures accurately rendered, the game even simulates the low resolution sensors of the various thermal equipment in use throughout, even using a reverse-JPEG algorithm to accurately render compression artefacts."
- "Prior Call of Duty campaigns have delivered some extensive maps, but the new addition to the COD engine takes this on to the next level, allocating a grid of 'tiles' around the player's current position, loading and decompressing the data as required, prioritising streaming depending on where the player is looking and the direction they are moving in."
- One of the key objectives with the latest engine is to help lay the foundation for the future of the Call of Duty series, with initial work starting on the revamp as long as five years ago. Going forward, Infinity Ward's work will be shared across studios such as Sledgehammer and Raven Games"
- "I went hands on with the alpha Modern Warfare single-player content seen in the trailer and performance was already at 60 frames per second, even before the optimisation push had begun. Current performance is bolstered by dynamic resolution scaling, variations of which have proven themselves adept at sustaining target frame-rates in prior COD titles including Infinite Warfare and WWII. Infinity Ward's aim is to optimise to the point where DRS is more of a fallback position, with the aim being to deliver the game at as close to target resolution as possible, while still delivering Call of Duty's signature 60Hz update."
If there's no Season Pass then I'm wondering what the different versions are. Will all game modes be available in the $60 dollar version or do you have to get one of the more expensive versions? CoD points returning is disappointing but expected.
Cross play with PC and Consoles could be nice. Might get to play something other than TDM or 24/7 of the smallest map in the game. Pegasus Actual brings up some good points. If console can opt out then there's no point. How many people would want to play against someone with an unfair advantage. The only thing I can think of them doing is allow PC players to use controllers and console players to use KB+M. Pool players by controller input (parties are the exception) regardless of platform. It kind of boggles my mind that there isn't much KB+M support for consoles when some of the biggest modern games have been shooters. They've pushed microphones, fake musical instruments, cameras, waggle remotes, dance pads, headphones and VR headsets but one the most ubiquitous set of input devices used in computers, with decades of development and refinement, nope. Consoles are closer to PCs than they've ever been. I thought these people like money. Might even revive dead genres too.
Did Driftor seriously fake his dog being stolen? I heard 8thoughts joke about it, but I just assumed it was, you know, a joke. Could of swore a family member went missing a while back.
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Post by Pegasus Actual on May 30, 2019 23:44:23 GMT -5
Did Driftor seriously fake his dog being stolen? I heard 8thoughts joke about it, but I just assumed it was, you know, a joke. I mean, I'm joking too, I don't know one way or the other. The videos are seriously stupid though. His dog goes missing and his instinct is to go 'radio silence' and assume it was a dognapping. Huh? Put up some lost dog posters like a Foxtroting normal person. Or you know, put a collar with a tag with your contact information if you're letting your dog outside unsupervised. I hate irresponsible dog owners. The other day this little Foxtroting thing was running around the street, I nabbed him, found the phone number on the collar... called the guy and he was like "He got out AGAIN??! That collar is the only thing that keeps him alive." Yeah, just barely you useless bitch.
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Post by Slick on May 31, 2019 1:56:35 GMT -5
Damn, that was an awesome trailer. I haven't felt that interested and hyped by a cod for a long time. I want this to be good now.
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Post by illram on May 31, 2019 14:32:26 GMT -5
I'm glad they seem to be backing off all the terrible consumer practices they have engaged in for years, but I'll wait and see what other terrible consumer practices they may be replacing them with.
I'm sad they are not doing a BR. I want an IW Battle Royale, since Treyarch's old IW engine (IW3? 4? I forget, but they use an older one than Infinity Ward, all of which are variants of the iD engine) is so dated. Which dovetails to....why do they exclude Treyarch from the other devs who they are sharing their engine. Is there some special reason Treyarch seems compelled to trot out the same old iD engine-variant for years? Their titles consistently look like ass on console compared to IW's, because of their bad optimization. I don't know if that's because they refuse to optimize their games to the extent IW does, or because they use an older IW engine than Infinity Ward, or both, but I don't understand why these devs don't share more. (Or why Activision doesn't make them)
Also disappointed there is no word on whether they are finally updating the audio engine to bring it into modern times. E.g. using Dolby Atmos or some other object based audio renderer, vs. the ancient 7.1 channel audio they have been using since 2005.
Also I guess this means the "secret source" (driftor?!?!?!) was wrong when he said IW could never release another Modern Warfare...
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Post by GodMars on May 31, 2019 18:00:39 GMT -5
Whatever the terms of the deal were they have obviously expired.
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Post by GodMars on May 31, 2019 20:44:11 GMT -5
Xclusive Ace is reporting that the sound engine has been completely overhauled. He’s also reporting that there will be no specialists in multiplayer, and that multiplayer will support 2 to 20 players.
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Post by scubasteven on Jun 1, 2019 0:06:31 GMT -5
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Post by Broadband on Jun 1, 2019 0:29:40 GMT -5
Not sure I like the Operators. With the promise of no season pass (which will probably be broken a week before the game's release), I feel like Activision will get carried away with the Operators. I mean, they have to make money somehow right? I feel like they'll eventually have special abilities and the game will basically become a poor man's Rainbow Six Siege. I like the idea of no mini-map though, if it's true. I always thought something needed to be done about UAVs & stealth perks so it's a step in the right direction. And lol if Last Stand really is in multiplayer.
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Post by GodMars on Jun 1, 2019 6:51:05 GMT -5
No minimap is s rumor and not something that was shown. Rumor also says it will still be there with UAVs. I doubt we’ll be without a minimap, as it’ll almost make it mandatory for everyone to use up a streak slot on UAV. That’s poor game design.
Giving Operators special abilities of some sort, and then making some exclusive and/or purchasable, means pay-to-win. They’d lose a lot of game sales. There’s a gajillion dollars to be made on cosmetics, and they specifically said no specialists.
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Post by GodMars on Jun 1, 2019 8:58:07 GMT -5
Getting our hopes up just so they can shit down our throats later? They even brought back a lot of the original MW dev team to do it.
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Post by Marvel4 on Jun 1, 2019 11:08:02 GMT -5
I want an IW Battle Royale, since Treyarch's old IW engine (IW3? 4? I forget, but they use an older one than Infinity Ward, all of which are variants of the iD engine) is so dated. Which dovetails to....why do they exclude Treyarch from the other devs who they are sharing their engine. Is there some special reason Treyarch seems compelled to trot out the same old iD engine-variant for years? Their titles consistently look like as s on console compared to IW's, because of their bad optimization. I don't know if that's because they refuse to optimize their games to the extent IW does, or because they use an older IW engine than Infinity Ward, or both, but I don't understand why these devs don't share more. (Or why Activision doesn't make them) That's very misleading and wrong. First of all, they don't even name their engine. We're not trying to market our engine. We don't even, you know, name it. It doesn't even have a name. It's just called IW6 because it's the sixth engine we made, so we just call it IW6. The same is true for Treyarch. For example, Black Ops is T5. They don't use an "older" engine than Infinity Ward, everything is based on IW3 (Modern Warfare). Also, they do share some of their work. IW3 -> IW4 -> IW5 -> IW6 -> IW7 IW3 -> T4 -> T5 -> T6 -> T7 -> T8
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Post by GodMars on Jun 1, 2019 16:20:10 GMT -5
Drift0r is repotting that PS4, Xbox, and PC players will all be in the same lobbies. Which, no thanks, I’m not going up against mouse and keyboard users.
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Post by bradman on Jun 1, 2019 17:01:21 GMT -5
Yeah, that would need some strict filtering. Would that even be possible?
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Post by GodMars on Jun 1, 2019 17:12:27 GMT -5
Yeah, that would need some strict filtering. Would that even be possible? I could see it for Spec Ops, but for MP? That’s a terrible idea. Unless they’re going to put a handicap in place for PC users. Edit: Xclusive Ace is speaking up on this saying that there isn’t any official information on what cross play will actually entail, and that anyone saying otherwise is basically full of shit.
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Post by kylet357 on Jun 1, 2019 17:44:23 GMT -5
Same way that Fortnite is, apparently.
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Post by GodMars on Jun 1, 2019 17:52:23 GMT -5
Same way that Fortnite is, apparently. No apparently, no one outside of IW actually knows. Reports to the contrary are wrong. All that is known is that some form of cross play between console and PC will exist. This doesn’t even mean cross play between Xbox and PS4. Or what game mode it will be available for.
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Post by Usagi on Jun 2, 2019 19:44:01 GMT -5
An official source from IW confirmed a Forbes article about it saying it works like Fortnite. I'd like to finally get to play with people from the forums after a decade if any of you are willing to brave the PC players.
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Post by illram on Jun 2, 2019 20:26:25 GMT -5
I want an IW Battle Royale, since Treyarch's old IW engine (IW3? 4? I forget, but they use an older one than Infinity Ward, all of which are variants of the iD engine) is so dated. Which dovetails to....why do they exclude Treyarch from the other devs who they are sharing their engine. Is there some special reason Treyarch seems compelled to trot out the same old iD engine-variant for years? Their titles consistently look like as s on console compared to IW's, because of their bad optimization. I don't know if that's because they refuse to optimize their games to the extent IW does, or because they use an older IW engine than Infinity Ward, or both, but I don't understand why these devs don't share more. (Or why Activision doesn't make them) That's very misleading and wrong. First of all, they don't even name their engine. We're not trying to market our engine. We don't even, you know, name it. It doesn't even have a name. It's just called IW6 because it's the sixth engine we made, so we just call it IW6. The same is true for Treyarch. For example, Black Ops is T5. They don't use an "older" engine than Infinity Ward, everything is based on IW3 (Modern Warfare). Also, they do share some of their work. IW3 -> IW4 -> IW5 -> IW6 -> IW7 IW3 -> T4 -> T5 -> T6 -> T7 -> T8 I mean....they're called something. I am not saying they market it. But that bit doesn't matter really, I just thought I remembered reading that Treyarch uses an older one than IW on the wikipedia article. They do use a different variant, maybe "older" is wrong. But my assumption/guess is that is why Treyarch's games all look worse. Like they're at a lower resolution. There's something they're not doing that IW is.
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Post by Pegasus Actual on Jun 3, 2019 2:53:46 GMT -5
An official source from IW confirmed a Forbes article about it saying it works like Fortnite. I'd like to finally get to play with people from the forums after a decade if any of you are willing to brave the PC players. Really no reason why they shouldn't. There are so many complete potatoes on PC. At least when you're a console potato if you happen to get a shot on target the aim assist will often track long enough for you to get a kill. The real question is if my Xbox COD friends will be so dismayed by my PC k/d vs my XIM k/d that they demand I get the Xbox version.
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Post by TheHawkNY on Jun 3, 2019 8:47:37 GMT -5
No COD points at launch. Wouldn't want people knowing the brutal loot box system before they make their purchase. Never mind the fact that they think they'll make more money giving away the DLC for free. It's the most insulting thinly-veiled slight of hand imaginable.
I'm so sick of loot boxes, man. I can't even get excited about this game, knowing that two months after it launches, every time I sit down to play it I'm going to be confronted with how they're trying to get me to spend hundreds of dollars on their digital slot machine.
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Post by GodMars on Jun 3, 2019 10:32:31 GMT -5
An official source from IW confirmed a Forbes article about it saying it works like Fortnite. I'd like to finally get to play with people from the forums after a decade if any of you are willing to brave the PC players. How does Fortnite work, Rabbit?
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Post by GodMars on Jun 3, 2019 10:43:33 GMT -5
No COD points at launch. Wouldn't want people knowing the brutal loot box system before they make their purchase. Never mind the fact that they think they'll make more money giving away the DLC for free. It's the most insulting thinly-veiled slight of hand imaginable. I'm so sick of loot boxes, man. I can't even get excited about this game, knowing that two months after it launches, every time I sit down to play it I'm going to be confronted with how they're trying to get me to spend hundreds of dollars on their digital slot machine. For me, if I get a good campaign, a few months of MP, and many hours of Spec Op fun, it would be worth the purchase. I won’t spend a dime on anything that doesn’t come with the game.
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Post by Usagi on Jun 3, 2019 13:34:38 GMT -5
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Post by GodMars on Jun 3, 2019 15:31:33 GMT -5
Keen, thanks!
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