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Post by fuzzybunny on Dec 17, 2011 18:08:31 GMT -5
I noticed that Den and Symthic's charts have different damage values for the PP-19 and P-90. Which is the correct chart? I usually take whatever Den puts up as truth, but I haven't been able to test for myself.
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Post by Den on Dec 17, 2011 18:15:03 GMT -5
I haven't updated everything on the chart from the latest patch. Symthic's is probably up to date.
The P-90's 5.7x28mm is up to 20-10 damage.
...But wait. His says the PP-19 does 16.7 - 9.1? Where's that from? I don't see that.
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Post by fuzzybunny on Dec 18, 2011 0:16:04 GMT -5
Alright, I appreciate the honesty pal.
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Post by tiesieman on Dec 18, 2011 4:04:23 GMT -5
Symthic had damage listed as 25-10 before too, but it was changed after some guy on his board mentioned it.
Without having a clue how the files are organized; did you look at 9x19mm round the PP2000 uses? Because the PP-19 is listed as using the 9x18 makarov round; maybe there's a different file for that one?
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Post by Den on Dec 18, 2011 5:18:11 GMT -5
Symthic had damage listed as 25-10 before too, but it was changed after some guy on his board mentioned it. Without having a clue how the files are organized; did you look at 9x19mm round the PP2000 uses? Because the PP-19 is listed as using the 9x18 makarov round; maybe there's a different file for that one? The PP-19 reads as having a 9x19. Even though there is a 9x18 Makarov projectile, I don't see anything that uses that WeaponClass. |
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Post by tiesieman on Dec 18, 2011 5:49:34 GMT -5
Then maybe the easiest way is to just test it in-game. I would,but kinda busy right now..
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Post by frankelstner on Dec 18, 2011 6:36:23 GMT -5
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Post by doctorbrain on Dec 19, 2011 11:41:15 GMT -5
While we're on the subject of differences between Den and Symthic's charts, I notice that Den's chart lists the G36C as having equalized recoil values (0.3 left/0.3 right/0.3 vertical). However. Symthic's chart shows uneven recoil values (0.5 left/0.3 right/0.3 vertical). Does anyone know which of these are true?
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Post by SheWolf on Jan 23, 2012 11:38:43 GMT -5
so, is there any news about the truth behind the PP-19? 9.1 - 16.7, or 10-25?
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Post by tiesieman on Jan 25, 2012 4:51:09 GMT -5
I think it has the lowest damage, but still gotta test it in-game
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Post by Serval on Jan 25, 2012 9:43:02 GMT -5
I did a quick test about that a few weeks ago in-game the PP-19 did do ~9 damage at range (I don't remember the exact value but it was less than 10 and thus less than the P90, which was all I was testing).
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Post by tiesieman on Jan 25, 2012 14:08:43 GMT -5
So then we can all agree that the PP-19 pretty much sucks in the face of the P90. Too bad, thing looks pretty awesome (like most russian weapons in this game)
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Post by baron on Feb 1, 2012 8:37:14 GMT -5
It is pretty great if you're going for suppression assists. The huge wall of weak bullets means if you run with teammates you should see the +50s popping up like crazy.
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Post by Keralastic on Feb 1, 2012 9:00:55 GMT -5
I always liked the PP-19 in BF2, so I'd probably just use it regardless of its actual quality.
Does it still have a firing sound as cool as it did in BF2?
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Post by yhzh on Feb 19, 2012 2:15:11 GMT -5
I always liked the PP-19 in BF2, so I'd probably just use it regardless of its actual quality. Does it still have a firing sound as cool as it did in BF2? Wow, the pp-19 was straight up terrible in BF2, along with the MP5 and type 85. The P90 was slightly less lame, but everyone used the DAO-12, since the smgs were only effective to about 10m anyways. |
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Post by Keralastic on Feb 19, 2012 14:30:28 GMT -5
Wow, the pp-19 was straight up terrible in BF2, along with the MP5 and type 85. The P90 was slightly less lame, but everyone used the DAO-12, since the smgs were only effective to about 10m anyways. Well, I said I liked it, I didn't say it was any good. (Hence, "use it regardless of quality.") |
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Post by yhzh on Feb 19, 2012 19:40:06 GMT -5
Yeah I wasn't knocking on you.
It was the best default anti tank gun, although I found the gun sounds from BF2 lacking in general...
Only reason to play anti tank was the Eryx and sraw, shitty as they were.
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