So after finally getting everything except pistols, USAS, and a few sniper rifles to 100 kills, I finally feel free to use whatever weapons I want. It's pretty funny how good the M4A1 is after using crap like the Q-whatever and SG553. Anyway, I decided to make a theoretically good setup for Assault with AN-94 and MASS. So I have medium and long covered, and a shotgun for those up close and personal engagements. And dammit, I've spent my time healing these idiot teammates, I'm going to use a shotgun because I want to (and I had 0 kills with it)! So I figured I'd mount it, even if mounting supposedly doesn't do much. Good news is, the MASS is more powerful than I expected; very reliable OHKs, and I almost feel like it's better than the 870. Bad news, it won't mount.
So I have the AN-94, underbarrel rail, and MASS equipped. I hit 3. My guy puts away the AN-94 and whips out the MASS. It's not terribly slow, but slower than it needs to be. And I'm wasting my slot by not using the foregrip. How do I get these things to attach? I just can't figure it out, and it's making me feel stupid like I'm missing something.
I think the AN-94 is one of those weirdos that doesn't attach the MASS. Probably has something to do with it being a Russian weapon while the MASS being an Amereican weapon. I'm not really sure though.
Which is sort of bizzare just because they can't simply say "it's meant to mount on an M16/Picatinny rail system, so it won't work on the Russian guns" because they chose to ignore that distinction in regards to the scopes; Western sights use a totally different mounting system for theirs and would absolutely not work without some serious gunsmithing, and vice versa.
So, they chose to ignore it in one case, and not in another. Weird. But good idea though D, i bet that setup would rock, especially when they buff the HBar!
rubio, nowadays all eastern block weapons use the 22mm picatinny-weaver rail. eastern block scopes usually work with mounts for russian PU systems as well as western weaver mounts alike. back in the 'nam era soviet paratroopers would often mount high quality german zeiss ikon scopes into their russian PU sidemounts. it's just a ring system too, after all.
they should have implemented some weird russian version of the mass, similar to what they did to the grenade launcher with the GP25
does the grenade launcher mount properly under the AN-94?
Last Edit: Jan 17, 2012 10:51:47 GMT -5 by SheWolf
Post by rubionubio on Jan 17, 2012 11:11:55 GMT -5
Cool, didn't know that! I just never see those weapons with the rail installed, and always see the scope mounted in that weird sidemount set-up. I guess the rail mounts in that side spot and then extends to the top? Hmm, I'll have to check it out!
in some cases that is true, in some cases, especially true for the ak 74 m family, there is a rail directly on top of the machinery cover.
but even if you would use that sidemount thingie, you could easily install western scopes. scopes don't come with fixed mounts, you just get the scope tube and can fit it in whatever ring mount you wish
<== *former czech military, wich is notorious for creating frankensteinesque bastard weapons out of eastern and western parts*
Well, that's stupid and I hate it. With the grenade launcher, equip speed isn't that necessary. Sure, it's nice to switch fast, but it's not that often that your life will depend on a fraction of a second. If you're in a situation where you need your shotgun however, it's most likely life or death. The only other AR I'd put the MASS on is the G3, especially considering the damage nerf makes it pretty crappy up close. I think I'll go with that, unless they've ruined my dreams there too.
And yeah, even with the HB the way it is now, I was rocking with it on the AN-94. It's a death laser at range, and pretty good at headshots. Only problem I had was dealing with the Russian 4x scope. I want my ACOG, or maybe the US 3.4x (Canadian, whatever). And I've seen plenty of enemies use the AN-94 with the GP-thingy attached.
On the subject of underbarrels, does the laser sight work on the MASS when mounted? If so, I think I may start drooling.
Good news and bad news. The G3 can use MASS mounted, however the laser has no effect on the MASS's spread. I must say, even if it's just placebo, I swear equipping the MASS is a lot faster with underbarrel. And the G3 looks pretty decent with it attached, although I haven't seen it in third person yet, so who knows.
And I thought the plain old MASS was great, but flechette is even nicer. I wish I knew what the stats were for the MASS, because it just feels like it's better than any of the other shotguns (at least as far as OHKs are concerned). And now I have the urge to slap the slugs on something like the FAMAS for the complete opposite effect. Super close range weapon, but with a mini sniper rifle attached. I swear this thing is spoiling me. I may never go back to med kits at this rate.
I 100% am with you Didjeridu! I just started using the MASS and I love it. I LOVE being able tot take a gun that I'm comfortable with at range and know that I'm not cutting any corners at close range. I haven't tried the flechettes though, I'll have to give them a shot next.
The one thing that I really don't like about it is the firing sound. It sounds like I'm letting the cork out of a champagne bottle, not firing a short-barreled shotgun. That mother should be LOUD.
Yeah, it sounds terrible. But I suppose that's part of the charm. Imagine an enemy hearing you fire and thinking, "That sounds wimpy, I can take this guy." Then as he enters your room or rounds the corner, and your MASS says, "lolnope."
Frags are very useful with a silenced AR to get you enemy suppressed before you run in to kill them. Slugs are only useful if you have to try to snipe from long range for fun. Flecettes have a bit more damage per pellet at long range, but are overall outclassed. And finally, Buckshot is about as good as a M1014 fired at pump action speed