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Post by rubionubio on Mar 12, 2012 8:34:53 GMT -5
I'm in full on derail mode now. I don't get the whole "Tali fan club" thing that I see a lot on the interwebs. Why do people get so attached to her? I couldn't stand her voice from the get-go with that awful fake Persian accent thing she has going on, but maybe that's just me. What are you referring to exactly Didjeridu? I personally loved the game right up until the end, but that seems to be a very popular sentiment at the moment, so we'll see if that gets "fixed" by some DLC or something. And seeing some of my favorite characters die was really tough All to get shit on by the awful, awful ending. To anyone who has yet to beat the game: DON'T. Just enjoy it up to the end and then shut it off and play multiplayer or something, because if you're anything like the rest of us, it will ruin the amazing experience and story that took you five years to develop.
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Post by tiesieman on Mar 12, 2012 8:39:02 GMT -5
The ending is just hilarious.
semi-spoilerish: I read that the in-game files for the ending cutscenes describe the simplicity and retardness of the ending perfectly. londonred.bik , londonblue.bik and londongreen.bik.
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Post by rubionubio on Mar 12, 2012 8:41:39 GMT -5
Damn, that is so fitting.
Seriously, it's as though the five years of choices and stories devolve into three different choices, which all give the SAME EXACT ENDING regardless. All that changes is the color palette.
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Post by didjeridu on Mar 12, 2012 15:07:24 GMT -5
I'm in full on derail mode now. I don't get the whole "Tali fan club" thing that I see a lot on the interwebs. Why do people get so attached to her? I couldn't stand her voice from the get-go with that awful fake Persian accent thing she has going on, but maybe that's just me. What are you referring to exactly Didjeridu? I personally loved the game right up until the end, but that seems to be a very popular sentiment at the moment, so we'll see if that gets "fixed" by some DLC or something. And seeing some of my favorite characters die was really tough All to get doo-doo on by the awful, awful ending. To anyone who has yet to beat the game: DON'T. Just enjoy it up to the end and then shut it off and play multiplayer or something, because if you're anything like the rest of us, it will ruin the amazing experience and story that took you five years to develop. I wouldn't say I'm in the Tali fanclub (those people are really, really creepy), but what they did to her extends to all Quarians. They literally took a stock photo and removed three of her fingers. Quarians = humans with less fingers/toes and funny legs. That is so pathetic it's beyond comprehension. The very least they could have done was change the skin color. If they really wanted to be lazy, there are tons of decent to good concepts of Quarians made by the fans that they could have copied/stolen. People have said it long ago, but it still holds true: Quarians would have been better off a mystery. And as for Tali herself... *spoiler?* Apparently Garrus and Tali hook up if you don't romance either, which is so cute and hilarious at the same time. I'd never want to ruin that now. *spoiler* But yeah, overall the game was good (gameplay-wise). It started off slow, but it took a lot of good things from ME and ME2 and combined them into awesome. If it wasn't for the fact that you earn enough points to basically max out your character completely, the power/skill leveling is great. There's a good variety of weapons, and the weight system is fantastic for power-heavy classes. Adepts don't suck anymore, and I really missed grenades. On the flip side, the endings are a travesty and the final ending scene is a slap in the face (depending on interpretation). Sentinels are crap now because not only is Tech Armor way worse than before, but there are 3 Tech Armor clones available as bonus powers. And I don't care for the squadmates. Garrus, Liara, and Tali are the only ones I care about. James is just a crappy Krogan replacement, spoilergreedycashgrabDLC is meh, and kindasortaspoilerAndroid is just so...forced. Kaiden/Ash are okay, but I never liked either much.
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Post by tiesieman on Mar 12, 2012 16:28:41 GMT -5
wait wait wait
You're saying that even though Wrex is in-game, you can't have him as a squadmate? And what about that-other-replacement-krogan-who-never-reached-the-awesomeness-which-is-Wrex, Grunt?
You can't have any krogan squad member?
Combined with the ending, I don't feel so bad for not buying this anymore
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Post by didjeridu on Mar 12, 2012 18:25:34 GMT -5
wait wait wait You're saying that even though Wrex is in-game, you can't have him as a squadmate? And what about that-other-replacement-krogan-who-never-reached-the-awesomeness-which-is-Wrex, Grunt? You can't have any krogan squad member? Combined with the ending, I don't feel so bad for not buying this anymore No Krogans, at all. I was never a huge fan of Grunt, but the short time he's in ME3 he's not bad. The "final" cutscene with him is pretty boss (based on a certain ME1 choice). I'm not sure how I feel about Wrex. They changed him from a gruff badass, into a goofball. Although as somewhat of a tradeoff, you can play a Krogan in multiplayer. It's just as awesome as it sounds. Krogan Sentinel is especially fun: shotgun, melee, shotgun, melee, explode armor, melee, shotgun, melee some more. Just beat the crap out of everything.
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Post by rubionubio on Mar 12, 2012 19:56:01 GMT -5
Wait, they reveal what the Quarian's look like? I guess I missed that part or something.
And I've recently discovered multi-player in earnest, and I love it. It's fantastic from what I've played so far. I love that even on Bronze difficulty it's still challenging, and downright hard on some waves (Reaper wave 10 and 11 I'm looking at you... Ravagers are OP as hell). I played MP a bit in the demo but didn't play enough of it to really get a feel for it... But man, I love it now.
Seriously, to all of you who are currently playing ME3... Continue playing and having a blast enjoying all the wonderful improvements they made to the game (Combat fluidity - the roll is just... such a small thing and it makes such a huge difference - and power development, weight restrictions v. weapon restrictions, etc.) and as soon as you get the option to attack the... Uh... "enemy" base (I guess there's really no point in worrying about spoilers since I've already said worse lol) just save the game and quit single player and just play multi-player until they come up with a better way to end the game.
Yes, it truly is THAT bad. I have not met or even heard of a single person who liked it or even thought it was "ok".
Anyway, going to make an ME3 MP thread in the "other games" section of the forums so hopefully people can hook up and play some Co-Op, which would be a blast to play with you dudes!
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Post by tiesieman on Mar 13, 2012 5:38:22 GMT -5
Map looks okay, but waay to small.
Now, for what actually matters:
Confirmed weapon
- Spas 12 (killfeed and you see a guy holding it; it's pump-action) - ACW-R (what is this? A carbine ACR?) probably engi - L86A1 for support - AUG (no designation, it's in the killfeed) - SCAR-L (is in the killfeed) - MTAR-21 (is in the killfeed) - LSAT lmg (is in the killfeed)
that leaves 3 weapons. Pretty nice list, hope there's another shotgun.
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Post by kirbyderby on Mar 13, 2012 10:58:22 GMT -5
The magic of Google/Wiki.
PDW-R is apparently Magpul's PDR weapon system.
The ACW-R would make sense as a re-name for the ACR, especially considering the original design was developed by Magpul as well.
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Post by tiesieman on Mar 13, 2012 11:16:53 GMT -5
The magic of Google/Wiki. PDW-R is apparently Magpul's PDR weapon system. The ACW-R would make sense as a re-name for the ACR, especially considering the original design was developed by Magpul as well. Yeah, and I think it's an engi weapon since we already have 2 ARs: the AUG and the SCAR-L. At least, if they go by karkands system of giving 2 weapons per kit + 2 all-kit weapons
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Post by rudybojangles on Mar 13, 2012 13:35:18 GMT -5
The magic of Google/Wiki. PDW-R is apparently Magpul's PDR weapon system. The ACW-R would make sense as a re-name for the ACR, especially considering the original design was developed by Magpul as well. Yeah, and I think it's an engi weapon since we already have 2 ARs: the AUG and the SCAR-L. At least, if they go by karkands system of giving 2 weapons per kit + 2 all-kit weapons If the SCAR-H is a carbine, I am guessing the SCAR-L would be one too, or maybe a PDW. I am looking forward to whatever PDW comes out of this, as the PP-19 as it currently stands isn't super attractive.
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Post by kirbyderby on Mar 13, 2012 13:42:18 GMT -5
Yeah, and I think it's an engi weapon since we already have 2 ARs: the AUG and the SCAR-L. At least, if they go by karkands system of giving 2 weapons per kit + 2 all-kit weapons If the SCAR-H is a carbine, I am guessing the SCAR-L would be one too, or maybe a PDW. I am looking forward to whatever PDW comes out of this, as the PP-19 as it currently stands isn't super attractive. It's possible the "ACW-R" is an all-kit instead of an Engi gun (or the Engi just picked up a different kit), but I doubt it. I'm guessing the MTAR-21, presuming the M stands for something like 'mini' and not another re-name. Maybe that pistol that someone supposedly found with that other sniper rifle? Speaking of which, I wonder how they'll handle Recon weapons for "close quarters" since the bolt and semi snipers don't really fit and we have like 4 clones of each already
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Post by mrite on Mar 13, 2012 13:56:32 GMT -5
If the SCAR-H is a carbine, I am guessing the SCAR-L would be one too, or maybe a PDW. I am looking forward to whatever PDW comes out of this, as the PP-19 as it currently stands isn't super attractive. It's possible the "ACW-R" is an all-kit instead of an Engi gun (or the Engi just picked up a different kit), but I doubt it. I'm guessing the MTAR-21, presuming the M stands for something like 'mini' and not another re-name. Maybe that pistol that someone supposedly found with that other sniper rifle? Speaking of which, I wonder how they'll handle Recon weapons for "close quarters" since the bolt and semi snipers don't really fit and we have like 4 clones of each already well the Mtar-21 was, according to wikipedia, recently adopted as the assualt rifle of the israeli army, and it stands for the Micro Tavor
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Post by didjeridu on Mar 13, 2012 14:51:07 GMT -5
L86, mmm...lets just hope the new assignments don't suck. I still don't have my L85 or Jackhammer. And things like FAMAS were practically free. I don't really want anymore PDWs. We have plenty already, and I'd rather see them make the UMP not useless. If they're going to add more all-kit weapons, I still want some DMRs or something. And what's up with the SCAR anyway? You'd think being a carbine, it'd be the SCAR-L. If they actually implemented a SCAR-L, I'd be interested in how it'd perform. I don't know what it is, but it's one of the few modernish weapons I like the look of. If the MTAR is just a smaller TAR, I really hope it doesn't come with that ugly red dot...thing.
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Post by tiesieman on Mar 13, 2012 15:14:02 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure SCAR-L is confirmed to be assault
We don't have to speculate anyway; one of the guys at Symthic's contacted Demize99 and he's gonna send all the new weapon files to them (how awesome is that?)
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Post by SheWolf on Mar 13, 2012 15:55:46 GMT -5
scar h for engineers, scar l for assaults...
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Post by I Am Hollywood5 on Mar 13, 2012 17:38:12 GMT -5
Alright. So I absolutely HATE Operation Metro. With an intense passion. It's honestly an embarrassment to the Battlefield name that it even exists. It has no business in BF3 it's the worst designed map I've ever seen.
That being said, my favorite maps in the game are Grand Bazaar and Seine Crossing. Playing on console those maps feel MUCH better than the wide-open vehicular maps, whereas when I play on PC Caspian and Kharg feel amazing. I like Grand Bazaar and Seine Crossing because they are close-quarters and urban, yet they are open enough for many alternative routes and flanking. Op Metro is just 1 straight line without any possible way to flank and only 1 single linear route to the objective. Not to mention it's just one big RPG/Noob tube/USAS frag round fest. In other words, I like urban CQC, but I dislike indoors. So when I first heard that Close Quarters was indoor maps, I was very skeptical. I also hate TDM and SQDM with a passion. Those modes do not fit in Battlefield, they simply don't work. I'm assuming they designed these maps for TDM.
HOWEVER, I'm surprised by Ziba Tower. Honestly, I actually think it looks really cool. It doesn't look nearly as linear as Operation Metro, and I'm not nearly as skeptical as I was before. I'm not entirely convinced it's going to work, but it will be interesting to see how this works out. I'm still a bit worried about explosive spam, but if the patch actually weakens rockets, noob tubes, and frag rounds like it's supposed to, maybe it wont be so bad. As long as these maps aren't linear and there are many flanking routes, I might be happy.
One thing I cannot reconcile is TDM/SQDM. I really hope these maps were designed around Rush. It's hard to imagine Conquest on these maps, but Rush seems to be a good medium, hopefully DICE haven't completely sold out to the COD crowd and still realize that Rush WORKS, and TDM DOESN'T. I think it's safe to say that this expansion pack is catered more for consoles, and that Armored Kill will be catered to PC. On console, CQC maps work well and wide open maps are too slow. On PC, CQC maps are just clusterf*cks and wide open maps work great.
One last thing - I'm not thrilled to see the ACR's lazor beams making their way into Battlefield. Leave that sh*t for COD please...
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Post by tiesieman on Mar 13, 2012 18:24:30 GMT -5
meh, the ACW-R's gonna be a carbine so it'll probably suck at range. Screw that thing anyways; you've got the way superior TAR-21 but yeah I agree, as long as there's gonna be little flanking routes the maps might turn out okay. They will suck if deathmatches are the only thing you can play on them.
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Post by SheWolf on Mar 13, 2012 19:31:54 GMT -5
they chose the micro-tar. wich is a carbine, and a comicly short one at that. that thing would make the most sense in that category anyway.
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Post by I Am Hollywood5 on Mar 14, 2012 0:38:10 GMT -5
TAR, ACR, AUG, SPAS-12, SCAR-L combined with CQC indoor infantry-focused maps, and a price tag of $15 for 4 maps. Maybe it's just me, but I can't get an OVERWHELMING call of duty feel to this DLC... =/
Oh well. At least Ziba Tower looked really cool style-wise. It's definitely going to be a break-away from the traditional Battlefield formula. And hey, if it doesn't work out, we know Armored Kill will be a true Battlefield DLC.
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Post by didjeridu on Mar 14, 2012 14:35:23 GMT -5
AUG? Tasty, as long as it's AUG-A3 or higher. SPAS? It better have the stock folded down. And isn't it both pump/semi? They could easily implement fire modes for it, but I don't see why anyone would choose pump without a real bonus. And yeah, SCAR-L for Assault and SCAR-H for Engi is just so...wrong.
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Post by tiesieman on Mar 15, 2012 17:55:29 GMT -5
AUG? Tasty, as long as it's AUG-A3 or higher. SPAS? It better have the stock folded down. And isn't it both pump/semi? They could easily implement fire modes for it, but I don't see why anyone would choose pump without a real bonus. And yeah, SCAR-L for Assault and SCAR-H for Engi is just so...wrong. pretty sure it's the A3 (a dude at symthics posted a pic of a soldier holding it) and yeah, spas has its stock folded down. No more 1/2 of your screen is SPAS!
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Post by novanleon on Mar 28, 2012 8:50:04 GMT -5
I loved the BC2 maps and would pay good money for a "Best of BC2" map pack for BF3. Grand Bazaar, Seine Crossing and Operation Metro are my favorite BF3 Vanilla maps, the rest are just okay. As far as game modes, IMHO Rush is far superior to Conquest, and it wasn't until Rush was introduced in BC1 that I was even able to get into the Battlefield games on any serious level. Conquest has always felt like a rather pointless "sandbox" type gamemode. New maps and new weapons are fine and dandy, but what I'd really like to see in upcoming DLC are some new, well-thought-out game modes. For example: - Linear Conquest Variation - Conquest flags that can only be captured in a specific orders, forcing everyone into a single front-line game of "tug-of-war". The game ends when one team holds all the flags and all opposing players have been killed and can no longer spawn.
- Conquest / Rush Hybrid Variation - Conquest, but instead of capturing flags, you capture zones by blowing that zone's MCOM station. This would give the opposing team heads-up when an MCOM is planted and give them opportunity to counter and defuse before the bomb is planted. Each MCOM that is blown awards the team a specified number of points (instead of points incrementing gradually over time). The game ends when your team achieves the required number of points, or you capture all zones and all opposing players have been killed and can no longer spawn.
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Post by mrite on Mar 28, 2012 13:20:32 GMT -5
AUG? Tasty, as long as it's AUG-A3 or higher. SPAS? It better have the stock folded down. And isn't it both pump/semi? They could easily implement fire modes for it, but I don't see why anyone would choose pump without a real bonus. And yeah, SCAR-L for Assault and SCAR-H for Engi is just so...wrong. pretty sure it's the A3 (a dude at symthics posted a pic of a soldier holding it) and yeah, spas has its stock folded down. No more 1/2 of your screen is SPAS! but the half screen SPAZ has style points more than any other gun in the game, but it will be folded down, as there is no way i can think of to put any of the many sights on the big SPAZ
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Post by ragnarok on Apr 2, 2012 2:55:30 GMT -5
SPAS with the stock folded is smexy.
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Post by gina on Jun 1, 2012 8:55:44 GMT -5
mmmhh... tar......ratartartartar..
but the micro version, suxxers, id like to have atleast the C arbine version
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