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Post by didjeridu on May 31, 2012 16:29:57 GMT -5
blogs.battlefield.com/2012/05/bf3-june-update-announce/Things of note: -M26 fixed.Finally. Even though it isn't as rampant as before, this is the biggest reason the game became unplayable. And now I can finally go back to using the M26 with HBAR and not feel bad. -Suppression slightly nerfed.The second biggest reason. I don't care if you like the suppression mechanic or not, but the amount of spread it adds currently is way out of line. It's bad for every weapon, but it makes things like sniper rifles and shotguns complete garbage. Infantry battles aren't won by who hits who first, but who misses who first. -Foregrip buffed overall.Good I guess. I like how they tweaked the spread for some guns rather than take the easy way out of buffing the recoil reduction across the board. SCAR didn't need the foregrip anyway. -All non-belt LMGs have extended.I don't know what they're smoking, but unless the mag sizes are small (aka not 200 round RPK) or they nerf reload speeds, I'll never go belt again. M27 is going to quickly become my favorite gun in the game. They better have extended models though. 200 rounds in a standard RPK magazine? Looks stupid and lazy. -All semi-auto shotguns at 220 RPM.I actually don't like this it all. Even though the differences weren't much, they made sense. SAIGA had the best reloads, so it got the worst speed. M1014 in the middle, and DAO at the extreme with reloads as a counterbalance. No big deal though. M1014 still got some loving below. -Shotguns have better aimed accuracy when moving, and are less gimped by suppression.Huge. Pellet shotguns were worthless under any kind of fire, and now there might even be a reason to aim the shotguns, or even use sights. Who am I kidding, irons all the way. -870 fire rate and empty reload speed slightly increased.A good, small buff, but it makes me worry a bit about the M1014. I don't know if the speed is worth it anymore, since the gap just got smaller. -M1014 fires 10 pellets, USAS 7, MK3 8.Great. M1014 has a reason to be used, and any kick in the crotch to the USAS is a good thing. I assume SAIGA and DAO remain at 9. Pretty balanced if you ask me. Well, that's all that interested me. I could whine about an SKS nerf, but eh. It was buffed for no reason whatsoever before, so this will counter that I think. Discuss anything notable to you.
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Post by Lexapro on May 31, 2012 16:51:39 GMT -5
I'm glad they increased recoil reduction for Foregrip on SG553 and the higher RPM assault rifles. Fixed L96 is pretty cool too.
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Post by ragnarok on May 31, 2012 19:48:03 GMT -5
-They should just buff the foregrip overall not only for individual weapons -Yay. Another attempt to fix input lag. -_- -I also learned that even devs can't tell the difference between clips and magazines.
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Post by gina on Jun 1, 2012 8:44:17 GMT -5
no input lag here on pc, playing with a 400dpi microsoft mouse disable vsync in catalyst and game, disable triple buffer ingame disable any mouse smooth/acc. ingame leave pre render frames to 0 in user .cfg enable triple buffer for bf3.exe with d3doverrider(kind of same effect if u set pre render frames to 1 in user.cfg, but better) enjoy also i wud recommend to cap the fps i user.cfg to 59(some guy over guru3d told me its smoother than 60) jumping fps online and in general suxx, fps cap is your friend if youre on console ok, just a small round up for pc guys here
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Jun 1, 2012 10:27:49 GMT -5
What's the point of triple and double buffering?
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Post by Keralastic on Jun 1, 2012 17:38:13 GMT -5
Weren't double and triple buffering a VSYNC related thing? Like, it improved performance with VSYNC on?
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Jun 1, 2012 19:13:04 GMT -5
Isn't just X2 and X3 buffering just make you game's FPS more 1 to 1 with your monitor's refresh rate?
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Post by tiesieman on Jun 2, 2012 9:05:49 GMT -5
Most interesting thing about this patch is gonna be the stats for the new weapons. You can pretty much garantuee those are in this
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Post by didjeridu on Jun 2, 2012 10:07:13 GMT -5
Yep. I reaallyy hope we don't suffer from cloneitis. Going by this list:
I can't really see any of them being different from what we already have. But here's hoping...
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Post by tiesieman on Jun 2, 2012 14:47:59 GMT -5
AUG Assault Rifle - Probably 700 RPM. Guess it will function a bit like an M416 with bullpup hipfire bonus SCAR Assault Rifle - Probably 600 RPM. AR with the least recoil, even less than the AK-74M? ACW-R Carbine - Probably 800 RPM. An M4A1 with a different skin, most likely MTAR-21 Carbine - Probably 850-900 RPM. The F2000 in carbine form (and fastest firing engineer weapon, most likely) M417 Sniper Rifle - A US SKS JNG-90 Sniper Rifle - A bolt action. Maybe like the SK98; 50 min damage, but longer max damage L86LSW Machine Gun - 650 RPM Probably QBZ-95ish since it's a bullpup too LSAT Machine Gun - 750 RPM belt machine gun MP5K Tactical Machine Pistol - this one is the most interesting to me. Probably 25-10 @ 750 RPM damage with 30 rounds, but maybe it's a 15 round mag? SPAS-12 Shotgun - An 870 with 8 rounds and slightly slower pump, methinks
Well I like some of the weapons cosmetically so that's cool. AUGs, TARs and SCARs are always welcome
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Post by didjeridu on Jun 2, 2012 16:58:01 GMT -5
Well I like some of the weapons cosmetically so that's cool. AUGs, TARs and SCARs are always welcome Yeah, I'll most likely love the AUG. I like the aesthetics of the SCAR, but I despise that sort of functionality. It's why I just can't touch the AK-74. Bolt action rifles are the absolute last thing necessary. Out of all the weapons in the game, they're the most unnecessary of clones. Although I wouldn't mind a really fast, weaker bolt-action to create a bolt/semi lovechild. MP5 is a PDW, right? If it was 15 rounds...damn, I'd just hate it. I'd feel forced into extended, and that loses one of the PDWs' only strengths: attachment combos.
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Post by kirbyderby on Jun 2, 2012 19:55:46 GMT -5
The SPAS looked like a semi-auto in the Donya Fortress trailer... so we basically get a M1014 clone or a 870 clone. I like the aesthetic variety, but I was really looking for something more unique instead of more copypasta.
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Post by SheWolf on Jun 3, 2012 4:01:56 GMT -5
not sure how i fee about the premium thingie..i do despise stuff like that, usually..but 50 bucks for all DLCs seems allright-ish, for todays standards (yes, i know, ten years ago those DLC thingies were called "patches", and they would bring new content to the game free of charge. but i suppose for nowadays practices we can be happy that we don't have to shell out 50 bucks for each DLC pack)
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Jun 3, 2012 10:18:55 GMT -5
Isn't it 80 dosh not 50?
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Post by SheWolf on Jun 3, 2012 11:26:43 GMT -5
50 euros over here, don't know what the price will be in the colonies.
i'm hoping to snatch a cheaper key from eastern europe, game keys usually go for about a quarter of the european price over there.
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Post by didjeridu on Jun 3, 2012 12:16:58 GMT -5
CQ is already floating around the Russian key sites. So you could probably go that route and save a few bucks.
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Post by SheWolf on Jun 3, 2012 12:48:34 GMT -5
yeah cq is, but i'll wait until tomorrow and see if i can't get that premium service thingie that way somehow. maybe via a russian VPN or something like that. i have no clue yet how that will be distributed, how i can pay it and so on.
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Post by tiesieman on Jun 4, 2012 1:00:41 GMT -5
If you find one, please tell me where so I can buy it too Edit: Here's the premium trailer
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Post by fatsix on Jun 4, 2012 9:53:30 GMT -5
Shit, I just upgraded Karkland yesterday.
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Post by SheWolf on Jun 4, 2012 10:55:09 GMT -5
aw really? crap..
if it makes you feel better, you are not the only one that's hosed.
Patrick Söderlund stated in an interview with a german gaming magazine that the premium service was going to be free for all owners of the limited edition, in december 2011. appearently that idea was thrown under the bus at some point, so yeah. this whole thing is basicly a giant money printing machine for the EA half of the deal, while the consumer half gets shafted.
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Post by didjeridu on Jun 4, 2012 16:37:11 GMT -5
It really upsets me that B2K owners don't get a discount. While I can't complain much personally, since like most people I got it free, there are those who actually paid for it and are getting the shaft with the Premium price. The only people who win out on this package are those who don't own B2K yet. And honestly, how many of those people are there really? Limited Edition was so easy to get a hold of, and I bet there are still stores selling boxed copies. And even if you didn't, there's been plenty of time to buy it, and most BF veterans wanted the older maps back. I guess only the late joiners, and people jumping the CoD ship will benefit. Is the patch here yet? I've been avoiding the game completely since I heard about the FAMAS bug. I hope it wasn't delayed until tomorrow because of consoles. Stupid Tuesdays... Edit: Patch is here, stupid me. Here are all the CQ assignments. Ties, your guesses on the stats were pretty much spot on. Shepard10 Squad revives 30 kills with ARs AUG-A3 700 RPM 30 rounds --- Set Us Up The Bomb20 kills with grenade launcher 15 kills with hand grenades SCAR-L 620 RPM 30 rounds --- No Shortage20 Squad resupplies 20 kills with LMGs L86A2 750 RPM 45 rounds --- Point Blank10 kills with C4 10 kills with knife (takedowns, no swipes) LSAT 650 RPM 100 rounds --- Done Fixing20 kills with AT rockets 30 kills with Carbines ACW-R 850 RPM 30 rounds --- My Own Terminator1 kill with EOD bot 100 kills with Carbines MTAR-21 900 RPM 30 rounds --- Team Player10 assists with TUGS 20 flag captures M417 ?? RPM (semi) 20 rounds --- Bullet Point50 kills with Sniper Rifles 3 wins in CQ Domination JNG-90 ?? RPM (bolt) 10 rounds --- These Hurt Too20 kills with Pistols 20 kills with Shotguns SPAS-12 ?? RPM (pump) 5 rounds --- Hold The Trigger1 top 5 finish in Gun Master 100 kills with SMGs (PDWs?) M5K 900 RPM 25 rounds
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Post by SheWolf on Jun 4, 2012 17:45:36 GMT -5
since it doesn't have a key, premium will sadly probably not be avaiable in keystores.
however, i'm currently fiddeling with the russian origin store, where it costs just 23 bucks, i'll let you guys know what comes of it.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Jun 4, 2012 19:41:42 GMT -5
Is this the 2000 MB patch I'm downloading right now?
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Post by didjeridu on Jun 4, 2012 21:03:29 GMT -5
Yep. Fun fact: you can unlock the guns right now. I'm not sure if that's old news or not, but I had no idea until I started playing. I got my shiny AUG, although I haven't touched it yet. On a side note, I was cycling through all my ARs for fun, and the AK-74 is a monster. With the new HBAR and the reduced suppression, it's absolute murder, and very easy to use. Seeing how the AUG is barely faster, I'm hoping it has balanced recoil. Then it'll definitely my go-to AR whenever I'm not using the G3. Although it looks pretty silly with the M26 mounted. Edit: rejoice in numbers docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuOojvNLMApVdHotTkJqbm4tV0dRbXptamZIZm5vMFE#gid=0Well...nevermind about the AUG then. 3x first recoil and unbalanced? Why does it exist? It's like the AEK, but without the firepower. Look at that SCAR-L...holy balls. It's a CoD weapon, but in BF. MTAR isn't looking too hot. ACW-R is a reverse M4A1. L85 is meh, LSAT looks okay, basically what the T88 dreams it could be. M417 seems to be a lower recoil, slightly slower SKS, and the JNG-90 just looks awful. I think I'd rather have the M40. MP5 looks sexy, but 20 rounds worries me. I know the Battlelog stats are usually wrong, but I hope it's really 25. SPAS is 11 pellets, and slightly faster than the 870. Dunno, not sure it's worth it. I'd have to see the first person model to decide.
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Post by tiesieman on Jun 5, 2012 0:01:17 GMT -5
AUG seems like the T88 lmg of the ARs and I was looking forward too it too
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Post by SheWolf on Jun 5, 2012 1:59:53 GMT -5
ok guys, found the way!
1: go to EA.com 2: login with origin/battlelog credentials 3: in the "about me" tab change country to russian federation 4: login at battlelog, click at "buy premium" 5: rejoice and praise the weak eastern european economy, for now you can enter your credit card details and proceed as normal 6: enjoy your significantly cheaper premium stuff
it's mainly interesting for the eurobros, since premium costs 50 euros here and the russian price is significantly better than that. for the u.s. bros the difference is a lot smaller, but still there.
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Post by tiesieman on Jun 5, 2012 2:30:58 GMT -5
Yeah that's how I bought it
Also, you can already unlock the cq weapons if you have premium, which is awesome.
I love the SPAS-12. It's basically a faster-firing 870, but it fires 1 less pellet. It's the middle ground between the 870 and the m1014. Plus, it looks pretty cool even though the stock is down (it isn't huge too; it's the same size as the 870)
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Post by fatsix on Jun 5, 2012 5:52:38 GMT -5
Trying to get the Spas unlocked was some of the most fun I've had at this game. 32-32 TDM at the canal and mostly everyone was trying to unlock it. So it was all shotguns and pistols, no snipers and a few guys with mp7's. Only took two rounds. I think the spas handles the fletchets pretty good 30 rocket kills is gonna be hard for me. I was also able to get my 1 tool kill to unlock the g53. It feels pretty good.
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Post by tiesieman on Jun 5, 2012 6:11:01 GMT -5
What's your battlelog name? Can't have enough bros!
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Post by Marvel4 on Jun 5, 2012 7:42:37 GMT -5
@shewolf: Does this really work? Can EA disable my key?
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