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Post by iw5000 on Jul 6, 2012 14:20:14 GMT -5
The setup
I am a long time CoD player, very hard-core, like play it way to much. (not going to say how many days, more like weeks) Like it's pretty much the only game I play. I was thinking about amusing myself during the dog days of summer, by tinkering around with BF3. Have some non-CoD fun.
I played the Demo a decent amount back when it was out. So I know a little bit about the game. But not much. Could someone, anyone, provide some quick tips and intro things to help get me started, if i pick this game up used?
Some example questions.
1. Unlike CoD's class setups, one must choose between different pre-set classes in BF? Engineer, Assault, Recon, Support?
2. Each above has it's own unique guns?
3. One can level up each above class, to get better guns? Kind of like XP in CoD?
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Post by SheWolf on Jul 6, 2012 15:08:23 GMT -5
1: yes, but within the class you have a lot of variation. the engineer can ditch his repair tool for mines, the assault can lug arround a health pack or a grenade launcher. so the classes are not pre-set by any means, exept in some general roles.
2: yes, but there is guns that everyone can take. submachine guns, in general, as well as shotguns.
3: you unlock stuff with your general overall-level, as well as some class-specific stuff by playing the particular class.
all info taken from the pc version, but as far as i know it should be accurate for the gametoasters too.
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Post by tiesieman on Jul 6, 2012 15:12:15 GMT -5
1. Unlike CoD's class setups, one must choose between different pre-set classes in BF? Engineer, Assault, Recon, Support? 2. Each above has it's own unique guns? 3. One can level up each above class, to get better guns? Kind of like XP in CoD? 1. Yeah, basically. Each class has a specific role in mind (which can be slightly changes with different unlocks; instead of a medkit you can roll with a grenade launcher for offence) 2. Yes. Assault gets ARs, Engis get carbines, Support gets LMGs, and Recon gets Sniper rifles and semis. On top of that, every class has access to shotguns and pdws (smgs basically) 3. Yeah. You unlock class weapons by playing that specific class (if I want an AR, I play as medic). If you want all-kit weapons (shotguns & pdws) you just rank up There's also some assignments with the DLC. Basically it's just challenges that give you a weapon if you complete them (but like i said, you need DLC) Btw, higher rank weapons aren't necesarrily better. The m16 is widely regarded as the best AR, and it's the starting weapon for the US side (you can unlock it for the Russian side too)
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Post by didjeridu on Jul 6, 2012 15:33:42 GMT -5
Somewhat obvious things, but still helpful (hopefully): -Maps are a lot bigger. Expect to run around a bit more, or use transportation. -There are vehicles. Pretty obvious, but it completely changes the entire FPS rhythm you may be used to. In CoD, you can just sprint around the entire match and be reasonably prepared for anything you might encounter (bar killstreaks, of course). Something as simple as crossing the street can be an ordeal when there are tanks and helis about. -TTK is a little longer compared to CoD, but still fast. You won't notice it much on most weapons, but some things like silenced PDWs (SMGs) will be slower than you're used to. Also, sniper rifles only OHK to the chest at relatively close range. Don't expect free torso kills. -Aiming and shooting in general. As you may or may not be aware, CoD games have no recoil in comparison, and the guns are hitscan. In BF, your bullets have spread, drop, and travel time, on top of the higher recoil and suppression system. It might take getting used to, but you'll never realize how bad CoD feels until you do. -Snipers are very easy to spot, but not as easy to kill. Given suppression, the more complex shooting mechanics, and the general increase in distance, you won't be "counter-sniping" with your AR much, if at all. Don't tempt fate, and just assume that if they can see you and they're at sniping distance, they'll win (as a non-Recon). -No cooking frags. No commando knife, and the knife only insta-kills with the takedown animation. Doing so makes you vulnerable for a second or two. Melee fights are rare.
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Post by mrite on Jul 7, 2012 11:03:02 GMT -5
A couple things: - The HBAR is very good on every single weapon, as it makes your weapon nearly perfectly accurate, and extends the max damage range, all for the cost of a little vertical recoil, so basically, unless you really need silence, or hipfire accuracy (only on the F2K really), you should be using it.
- The bipod is amazing, as it basically removes recoil, and spread, with no drawback, and when you need it, the enemy is probably far enough away for you to have time to set it up
-The recon class is nigh useless unless you are in a coordinated squad, in which case it can guarantee a win in most games, with its spawn beacon and motion sensor, but beware, the only option you will have against a tank is running away
- You can jump over tank shells quite easily, if you time it right
-Jets are deathtraps, as your target will usually be other jets, conveniently the opponents who are best equipped to take you out, and until they are dead, you can't really attack anyone else, even then, you still suck against infantry
- K/D doesn't matter
-The most versatile class is Support, as it can do everything short of healing, but it also has the least mobility with its class weapons, use this if you like stuff like the ASVAL
-You will get the most score using the Assault and its insta-win paddles
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Post by tiesieman on Jul 7, 2012 15:47:42 GMT -5
A couple things: -Jets are deathtraps, as your target will usually be other jets, conveniently the opponents who are best equipped to take you out, and until they are dead, you can't really attack anyone else, even then, you still suck against infantry What? Jets are kind of hard to master, but when you do, not only will you kill anything that's in the air but also you'll hurt ground targets with your rocket pods (pretty much the only way to go, guided missiles very rarily). The main cannon is also pretty decent against infantry The only thing you need for killing infantry is a high resolution. Not only will you spot 'm more easily, but the actual spot dorito won't show up on low resos
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Post by didjeridu on Jul 7, 2012 17:31:18 GMT -5
I hereby petition Den to filter "triangle" to "dorito." Better yet, "nacho" into "nacho cheese," and "moldy nacho" into "cool ranch."
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Post by iw5000 on Jul 9, 2012 14:02:41 GMT -5
If i buy the game used...how much will i have to spend in buying map packs and other DLC?
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Post by rudybojangles on Jul 9, 2012 14:19:44 GMT -5
If i buy the game used...how much will i have to spend in buying map packs and other DLC? I think you may have to buy an online pass just to play it (assuming you are in fact buying it new). Then, it's $10 per dlc. Back to Karkand offers gigantic maps and epic vehicle gameplay, a huge difference versus COD. My personal favorite. Close Quarters offers more Call of Duty like experiences (the developers and the publisher have both stated that the pack is to take aim at Call of Duty), and is much more polised for console use (as the maps are smaller for the 24p limit). There is also Battlefield Premium, vaguely comparable to Call of Duty Elite, but with more savings and events on stuff like DLC, and less analytics than COD:E gives (those are in the base game, under Battlelog, the online social tool for Battlefield). Confused yet? Coming from a COD background myself, I started playing Bad Company 2 on the XBOX awhile ago. Initially, you will be frustrated, as vehicles, especially in the right hands, will wreck you. Over and over. Hide, roll engineer, or otherwise avoid. If you do get CQ DLC, you will be able to "ease" into the game, by getting used to the mechanics in a vehicle-free setting. Good luck if you so choose to buy it. I would look for discounts on new games instead of buying used. Check prices yourself. Use google (you are not new to the internet), and make a buy decision.
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Post by iw5000 on Jul 10, 2012 15:53:54 GMT -5
Yeah, I am confused. A little bit.
So i am going to have to buy the game, preferably new ($60). Then shell out for Battlefield Premium. That's another what? $40? $50?. Then buy two or three DLC's? Another $30?
So i'm out maybe $140......
...and then i am going to get my azz shelled continuously for a while, due to the fact everyone has had the maps for eight months.
Ughhh.
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Post by Marvel4 on Jul 10, 2012 16:01:45 GMT -5
No, you get all DLCs for free with Battlefield Premium.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Jul 13, 2012 0:45:37 GMT -5
Avoid the the Jackhammer
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Post by tiesieman on Jul 13, 2012 3:38:07 GMT -5
dont listen to this manperson jackhammer is bad, but the kind of affectionally bad. its cool to use plus it looks like a duck
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Post by didjeridu on Jul 13, 2012 14:50:15 GMT -5
Using the Jackhammer in GM made me want to cry.
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Post by tiesieman on Jul 14, 2012 4:25:31 GMT -5
That's because of frags
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