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Post by arcanine2009 on Aug 15, 2012 14:08:46 GMT -5
Feel free to discuss any weapons from BO2 here in detail. Any info you have on them, like game mechanics/weapon stats from videos/inside information,. as well as your personal opinions!
Weapons confirmed so far for multiplayer. Please post any new ones, so I can update.:
PRIMARIES
Assault rifles:
Type 25 - fast rate of fire, and moderate recoil.
M8A1 - 4 burst assault rifle
SA-58 - Semi auto american version of FAL.
SIG556 - 3 burst rifle with high damage like the M16/Type 95 from previous games.
SCAR-H - supposed to have above average damage and range
AN-94 - A variant of the AK47. First 2 bullets, fire at a very fast rate.
SMR - semi auto. Highest damage of ARs. Probably like M14.
TAR21 - recently confirmed
Shotguns:
M1216
Saiga-12 -russian shotgun that looks like an ak47 lol
R-870 MCS
LMGs:
LSAT
QBB LSW
Mk 48
Sniper Rifles:
DSR 50 - german bolt action sniper rifle. OSOKs stomach and below, mag size of 5.
SVU-AS - bullpup version of SVD w/ mag size of 12. Low recoil+ acog zoom. Damage unknown. Could be like the M21 in power (OSOK to head and neck).
Ballista - iron sights is a separate attachment. In game description says it OSOKS to the chest and up
SMGs:
MP7
Chicom CQB
PDW-57 - variant of the p90. Has 50 rounds like the original.
Skorpion EVO III - newer version of Skorpion?
MSMC - indian variant of the uzi
Vector - recently confirmed
Primary Attachments:
Reflex sight
ACOG sight
Target Finder -Paints red squares around hostiles.
Hybrid Optic
Suppressor
Fast Mag -Faster reloading of mags.sleight of hand.
Fore Grip - decrease recoil on primary weapons
Laser Sight - tightens hip fire. Works like Steady Aim
Adjustable Stock - increase movement speed while adsing. aka Stalker from MW3.?
Quickdraw -faster ADS?
Millimetre Scanner -see through some solid surfaces + smoke
Ballistic UAV - reduces idle sway
long barrel- for shotguns only.. Gives more range
Grenade Launcher
Select Fire Mode - switch fire between auto, burst, and semi. Via wildcard.
FMJ Rounds - Deep impact/aka better penet through surfaces and increases damage to vehicles(and possibly kill streaks)
Extended Clip
Rapid Fire
Specials:
Assault Shield (Metal riot shield that can be planted into the ground as makeshift cover)
Cross bow?
SECONDARIES:
Launchers:
FHJ-18 AA (Vehicle lock-on, two rockets)
RPG
SMAW
Pistols:
KAP-40
Tac-45
Executioner
B23R
Lethal Slot:
Grenade
Semtex
Combat axe
Claymore
C4
Bouncing Betty
Tactical slot:
Black Hat PDA (Get close to enemy equipment and point this data pad at it to hack it and turn it against enemies. Takes ages to hack though!)
Smoke grenade
Sensor grenade
Flashbang
Concussion grenade
Sensor grenade
Shock charge (a throwable stick that emits an electric shock across a surface, rooting targets to the spot)
Tactical Insertion
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Post by asasa on Aug 15, 2012 14:12:47 GMT -5
I didnt see one. If we do, its probably mixed into a thread. Other info: Type 25 has idle sway, no buildup Errrrr... thats it  |
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Post by arcanine2009 on Aug 15, 2012 14:14:27 GMT -5
wait...don't we have this one already? Do we? I know we have the weapons list posted somewhere. Just wanted a thread that's just for discussing BO2 weapons, since I don't see any so far. Anyway, I noticed the SVU sniper rifle in this game, has a 12 mag size, and very little recoil(still goes up and to the right) and sway. Also seems to have a WA2000 from BO or AS50 from MW3 ACOG zoom. Don't know about its OSOK areas, though I'm hoping it's like a WA2000+Drag from BO1 hybrid, and has a OSOK to the chest at least w/out a silencer. |
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Post by Broadband on Aug 15, 2012 14:28:24 GMT -5
Still don't know why they insist on calling extended mags "extended clip" in Black Ops II. Irks me to no end.
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Post by UrbaneVirtuoso on Aug 15, 2012 14:31:05 GMT -5
If the Assault Shield is equipable as a secondary, then I'll be in heaven.
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Post by Broadband on Aug 15, 2012 14:33:12 GMT -5
If the Assault Shield is equipable as a secondary, then I'll be in heaven. Do you really have over 10,000 posts? |
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Post by arcanine2009 on Aug 15, 2012 14:33:53 GMT -5
The 5 default custom classes (from this video at least):
Mercenary -(fills 9/10 points)
M8A1 w/ Target Finder,Select Fire, and Laser Sight
FHJ-18 AA (secondary)
Flak Jacket(p1) and Hard Wired(p2)
1 Lethal Frag Grenade
Wildcard: Primary Gunfighter( allows 3 attachments for primary)
Operative
Skorpion Evo III w/ millemeter scanner, fast mag, and suppressor
No secondary
Ghost, Coldblooded, Dead Silence
semtex
smoke grenade
Wildcard: Primary gunfighter
Heavy Gunner(fills 10/10 of slots)
Mk 48 with Hybrid Optic, Rapid Fire, and Quickdraw
RPG launcher for secondary
Hardline perk (perk 1 slot)
1 Bouncing Betty
2 Sensor Grenades
Wildcard: Primary Gunfighter
Specialist (fills 10/10 slots)
M1216 with extended clip, long barrel, and laser sight
No secondary
Lightweight(p1), Extreme Conditioning(p3), and Dexterity(p3)
No lethal
Tactical Insertion
Wildcards: Primary Gunfighter, & Perk 3 Greed
Recon Sniper(fills 10/10 points)
DSR50 w/ FMJ
Executioner pistol with laser sight
Lightweight, Fast Hands, Extreme Conditioning
1 C4
1 Shock Charge
Wildcard: Danger Close
Not sure what Operative and Heavy Gunner have, but they're bound to be an smg and lmg class.
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Post by arcanine2009 on Aug 15, 2012 14:36:57 GMT -5
If the Assault Shield is equipable as a secondary, then I'll be in heaven. I don't think so. At least in the video I just posted, 24 seconds into the video Shows the 6 separate classes, including Specials. And the Assault Shield would be in Specials category. You'd have to get the Primary gunfighter wldcard to use 2 primaries... |
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Post by arcanine2009 on Aug 15, 2012 15:01:40 GMT -5
OH GOD... Just image screened the in game stats of the 3 sniper rifles. Of course, we don't have to take the in game block stats seriously(I typed in the red font), but read the description guys... Looks like.. The SVU-AS could be the new M21, low recoil and high rate of fire The Ballista could be the new old Dragunov, deadly at chest and up The DSR-50 could be the regular bolt action that OSOKS to stomach  Ballista has fast handling speeds? Wonder if that means fast ADS or fast reload times or both? |
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Post by danoski666 on Aug 15, 2012 15:09:56 GMT -5
OH GOD... Just image screened the in game stats of the 3 sniper rifles. Of course, we don't have to take the in game block stats seriously(I typed in the red font), but read the description guys... Looks like.. The SVU-AS could be the new M21, low recoil and high rate of fire The Ballista could be the new old Dragunov, deadly at chest and up The DSR-50 could be the regular bolt action that OSOKS to stomach Ballista has fast handling speeds? Wonder if that means fast ADS or fast reload times or both? swap times maybe :CCCCCCCCCCC |
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Post by arcanine2009 on Aug 15, 2012 15:10:42 GMT -5
A bolt action that only OSOKS to the chest? That's really like WaW sniper rifles with iron sights.. Pretty crappy.
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Post by arcanine2009 on Aug 15, 2012 15:14:58 GMT -5
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Post by arcanine2009 on Aug 15, 2012 15:55:48 GMT -5
Copy+pasting the in game bar stats and descriptions for each AR now from
We don't have to take the in game bar stats to heart.. But perhaps no more clone guns?
AN-94: Fully auto, but the first 2 rounds of each burst, are at a faster fire rate.
Mobility: 14
Damage: 12
Range: 13
Accuracy: 10
SMR: Semi auto. Highest damage per round class.
Mobility: 14
Damage: 16
Range: 16
Accuracy: 15
M8A1: 4 burst AR, can be fired in quick succession.
Mobility: 14
Damage: 9
Range: 11
Accuracy: 13
Type 25: Automatic with a high RoF and moderate recoil.
Mobility: 14
Damage: 9
Range: 9
Accuracy: 11
SA-58: Semi-auto AR. Light recoil with moderate damage.
Mobility: 15
Damage: 14
Range: 14
Accuracy: 16
Sig556: 3 burst assault rifle. High damage output in each burst.
Mobility: 14
Damage: 13
Range: 15
Accuracy: 16
Scar-H: Fully Automatic. Increased Damage and Range.
Mobility: 14
Damage: 13
Range: 15
Accuracy: 12
In short..
-AN94, fully auto, but first two rounds of every burst are faster than the ones after.
-SMR, semi auto, and highest damage of the class. looks like it could be the new M14.
-M8A1 is a 4 burst round rifle. I'm guessing each bullet is 30 damage.
-Type25 is a auto with a fast rof. I'm guessing 3-4 hit kill gun ot sure how fast or the damage. If it's 3 hit kill, I'm guessing 35 damage.
-SA-58 looks like it could be the FAL or the SVT40/Geweher/ etc and does at least 40 damage I think. Maybe 50, but no 1.4 headshot multiplier, but more accurate than SMR.
-Sig556 is a 3 burst. At least 40 damage.. Maybe even up to 50 max damage, like the type 95 in MW3.
-Scar-H is a fully automatic with "increase damage and range." All I'm thinking now is the BO2 version of the ACR from MW3.
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Post by arcanine2009 on Aug 15, 2012 17:40:42 GMT -5
Vondeharr confirms that ballistics CPU reduces sway.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Aug 15, 2012 17:43:48 GMT -5
I dont get the thing w/ the AN94.
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Post by Marvel4 on Aug 15, 2012 17:44:38 GMT -5
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Post by arcanine2009 on Aug 15, 2012 17:51:50 GMT -5
I dont get the thing w/ the AN94. Every time you fire from the AN94, the first 2 bullets will faster than normal (IRL AN94 fires up to 1800RPM). |
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Aug 15, 2012 17:52:39 GMT -5
I mean I don't get how it works in game. Does that mean it will only get the 2 round b'oh-ness w/ the select fire attachment on burst mode?
Or does it mean every time shoot the AN94 the 1st two shoots are at a higher RPM?
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Post by Marvel4 on Aug 15, 2012 17:58:40 GMT -5
Yes.
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Post by arcanine2009 on Aug 15, 2012 17:59:38 GMT -5
I mean I don't get how it works in game. Does that mean it will only get the 2 round b'oh-ness w/ the select fire attachment on burst mode? Or does it mean every time shoot the AN94 the 1st two shoots are at a higher RPM? I think it's the latter. |
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Aug 15, 2012 18:00:34 GMT -5
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Post by snakex on Aug 15, 2012 18:00:57 GMT -5
-SMR, semi auto, and highest damage of the class. looks like it could be the new M14. -SA-58 looks like it could be the FAL or the SVT40/Geweher/ etc and does at least 40 damage I think. Maybe 50, but no 1.4 headshot multiplier, but more accurate than SMR. both have at least a max dmg of 50 and with the SA58 i got a 1HK on the neck and i think the SA58 is the stronger gun. I played both and i got more 2HK with the SA58. |
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Aug 15, 2012 18:05:06 GMT -5
^How where the shoguns? Use the Saiga by any chance?
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Post by Lexapro on Aug 15, 2012 18:05:46 GMT -5
I imagine that it would work as thus:
By default, it fires full auto. When you pull the trigger, the first two shoots come out extremely quickly, then the RoF slows down. This happens every single time you pull the trigger.
If you have Select Fire, you can switch the gun to Burst Fire, which probably shoots 2 rd bursts at the same increased fire rate. You can most likely replicate this by shooting in very quick bursts on full auto as well.
BTW, the SA58 in the game is actually a US made FN FAL variant. You're looking at the wrong SA-58 =P
Also, the AN-94 is not at all a modern AK47. It bears passing resemblance to the AK-47 in terms of general shape, but has almost nothing in common with any weapon of the AK series.
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Post by snakex on Aug 15, 2012 18:11:10 GMT -5
^How where the shoguns? Use the Saiga by any chance? only found a M1216 and it was weak? got hitmarkers like hell.(I'm not the typical shotgunner) |
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Aug 15, 2012 18:18:01 GMT -5
^How where the shoguns? Use the Saiga by any chance? only found a M1216 and it was weak? got hitmarkers like hell.(I'm not the typical shotgunner) VONDERHAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR  |
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Post by arcanine2009 on Aug 15, 2012 18:34:32 GMT -5
at 1:50, I see 2 consistent OSOKs with this shR-870 MCS (I don't see the enemy getting shot at).
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Post by arcanine2009 on Aug 15, 2012 18:35:47 GMT -5
Yes. That's what I'm thinking at least. -SMR, semi auto, and highest damage of the class. looks like it could be the new M14. -SA-58 looks like it could be the FAL or the SVT40/Geweher/ etc and does at least 40 damage I think. Maybe 50, but no 1.4 headshot multiplier, but more accurate than SMR. both have at least a max dmg of 50 and with the SA58 i got a 1HK on the neck and i think the SA58 is the stronger gun. I played both and i got more 2HK with the SA58. Do you mean the SMR is the stronger gun? So SA-58 is BO FAL then? I imagine that it would work as thus: By default, it fires full auto. When you pull the trigger, the first two shoots come out extremely quickly, then the RoF slows down. This happens every single time you pull the trigger. If you have Select Fire, you can switch the gun to Burst Fire, which probably shoots 2 rd bursts at the same increased fire rate. You can most likely replicate this by shooting in very quick bursts on full auto as well. BTW, the SA58 in the game is actually a US made FN FAL variant. You're looking at the wrong SA-58 =P Also, the AN-94 is not at all a modern AK47. It bears passing resemblance to the AK-47 in terms of general shape, but has almost nothing in common with any weapon of the AK series. Got it. Edited my original post now. |
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Post by Lexapro on Aug 15, 2012 18:56:02 GMT -5
R870 looks badass.
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Post by -3055- on Aug 15, 2012 20:16:55 GMT -5
Skorpion EVO III - newer version of Skorpion
that sounds so unbelievably sexy.
and did he actually say "you have to keep moving for ghost to work?"
does he not realize he broke the game? not only is this extremely easy to counter, but this is just going to annoy everyone who is sitting in a corner to reload or to heal or to do literally anything because "dammit they'll see me"
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