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Post by asasa on Nov 17, 2012 20:28:20 GMT -5
I didnt know anyone tested to reveal if it did or not. I mean, it should. But I didnt think it did.
But for a gun like the FAL with no select fire drawbacks... its always the best option - no sense in turning it off.
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Post by corpsecreate on Nov 17, 2012 20:31:09 GMT -5
You're assuming that using burst brings back the original range. And either way the SWAT sucks dick full auto. Switching back does return the original range.
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Post by PassiveVengance on Nov 17, 2012 23:48:38 GMT -5
^^ I second the above post. The SWAT (at least in local bot matches) most definitely takes less bullets to kill when in burst with select fire than in full auto
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Post by I Am Hollywood5 on Nov 18, 2012 1:22:51 GMT -5
Yes, switching back to burst DOES set the range back to normal levels. The damage/range switches on the fly. But I do agree with asasa, it might as well be called "full-auto" instead of select fire. What he's saying is that even though burst is more accurate than full auto, firing just 1 or 2 shots is always even more accurate (and there's no awkward delay during which you can't fire) than a 3 round burst. So just leave it in full-auto, because you can't fire just 1 bullet in burst mode...
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Post by I Am Hollywood5 on Dec 2, 2012 19:49:36 GMT -5
updated with some new info
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Post by Lexapro on Dec 2, 2012 21:36:09 GMT -5
Select fire on full auto weapons increases centerspeed and has no burst delay right? In that case, switching back and forth seems like the best way to use the attachment.
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Post by Marvel4 on Dec 3, 2012 3:15:15 GMT -5
There is a delay between bursts.
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Post by air139 on Dec 3, 2012 5:37:23 GMT -5
Vector, FAL, and AN are all worth trying with select fire.
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Post by air139 on Dec 3, 2012 5:38:54 GMT -5
Nothing complicated about it. Burst fire is less accurate than single firing. Your argument is atrocious. It has two modes, therefore you must use both. THE Foxtrotting ATTACHMENT MAY AS WELL BE CALLED "FULL AUTO". On high controller sensitivity a auto rifle has less recoil than me mashing on the controller. So the auto FAL is beasty.
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Post by aidsaidsaids on Dec 3, 2012 7:20:26 GMT -5
Nothing complicated about it. Burst fire is less accurate than single firing. Your argument is atrocious. It has two modes, therefore you must use both. THE Foxtrotting ATTACHMENT MAY AS WELL BE CALLED "FULL AUTO". On high controller sensitivity a auto rifle has less recoil than me mashing on the controller. So the auto FAL is beasty. Do you suffer from Parkinson's or just Internet Hyperbole Disease?
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Post by I Am Hollywood5 on Dec 3, 2012 12:18:45 GMT -5
Vector, FAL, and AN are all worth trying with select fire. Particularly Vector. Vector with SF = 1200 rpm 2 round bursts. Vector with SF + RF = 1800 rpm 2 round bursts, although it seems the delay is extended. Still, even with the massive range nerf, it's basically the same as turning the Vector into a semi-auto that shoots mega-bullets that deal 36 damage minimum (3 shot kill), 18 round mag, SMG mobility, and very low recoil orrrrrrr macro...
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Post by Megaqwerty on Dec 3, 2012 13:41:05 GMT -5
...but what advantage does that have over a naked Chicom or a RF Chicom?
(Looks like the RF Vector has far better range than the RF Chicom...but both are still pretty shit.)
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Post by Lexapro on Dec 3, 2012 14:21:18 GMT -5
What is the burst delay introduced on full auto weapons with select fire?
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Post by I Am Hollywood5 on Dec 3, 2012 18:44:30 GMT -5
...but what advantage does that have over a naked Chicom or a RF Chicom? (Looks like the RF Vector has far better range than the RF Chicom...but both are still pretty doo-doo.) Yes one thing is the range, although it's not all that significant. More importantly it's the shorter burst. You have a better chance of hitting 2 out of 2 than 3 out of 3. If you are confident you will land all 3 shots from the Chicom, than it's better. But if you only hit 2 out of the 3, you will have to wait just slightly longer to start your second burst, compared to the Vector. In practicality there's no tangible advantage to using the Vector instead. It has to fit your playstyle to be worth it.
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Post by Megaqwerty on Dec 4, 2012 0:59:30 GMT -5
I see your point: in theory, there's less waste with a 2 round burst with a 4 hit kill. Too bad I don't have 100% accuracy.
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Post by Evan950 on Dec 5, 2012 7:52:24 GMT -5
either way, the chic will always use extra 2 bullets even if the other 4 hit. vector is more ammo efficient u can say.
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Post by ewilly on Dec 5, 2012 16:50:08 GMT -5
im curious, allthough the rate of fire is slower making a burst fire fully auto. would a four shot kill be faster full auto because there is no delay?
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Post by Megaqwerty on Dec 5, 2012 17:22:15 GMT -5
The Chicom has no burst delay so, in theory, no.
In practice, the answer is yes, however. Unless you're really good at timing your bursts or using a macro.
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Post by arcanine2009 on Dec 11, 2012 14:06:15 GMT -5
What about auto guns w/ select fire? Anyone test their RPM within their burst? Is it 900 RPM for most guns?
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Post by Robospy on Dec 11, 2012 14:32:13 GMT -5
Most just stay the same
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Post by I Am Hollywood5 on Dec 11, 2012 15:07:10 GMT -5
What about auto guns w/ select fire? Anyone test their RPM within their burst? Is it 900 RPM for most guns? Every gun stays the same, except the Vector which increases to 1200 rpm.
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Post by ewilly on Dec 11, 2012 23:26:08 GMT -5
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Post by hyperion on Dec 12, 2012 17:29:35 GMT -5
I was messing around last night with setups and realized you can select fire + rapid fire any smg. Does this make the actual bursts a faster rof when rf + sf is combined? Or does it only effect the fully auto part of the weapon?
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Post by I Am Hollywood5 on Dec 12, 2012 22:25:28 GMT -5
yes it affects RoF within bursts as well.
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