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Post by firestorm on Nov 15, 2012 16:07:24 GMT -5
uh, me and marvel are both online right now. Just tried dropping into a game and it worked fine. OK.... BO2 hates me...
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Post by Robospy on Nov 15, 2012 16:12:11 GMT -5
Might want to hold off on this, it's getting lots of patch now, steam is updating it as I type this. And from what I've seen Flak Jacket is already nerfed, since I unlocked in day 1 and it did wonder, hunter killer rarely killed me and RC-XD never, then on yesterday, I got kill by ever single hunter killer unless they miss completely(no damage to me at all because I ran around a cover/into building), RC-XD kills me half if the time... I don't doubt they would make balance change to guns too, and maybe testing after things settled down would be a better idea? Are you sure the patch is gametuning? I bet its more likely to just fix the servers. Could have sowrn I heard someone say that hunter killer does like a 1000 direct impact damage, and with flak jacket on, its 350, which is more than enough to kill a flak jacket user. That was megaqwerty who said that, in the threa about the Pre-release livestreams from IGN. He was being sarcastic when he said it though. In my opinion Flak Jacket is awesome, I just unlocked it and it tanks almost all explosives, including RC Cars and Hunter Killers
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Post by arcanine2009 on Nov 15, 2012 16:14:30 GMT -5
Ok, that's great to hear.
I wonder how Treyarch will handle the gametuning updates. I hope they release patch release notes..
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Post by asasa on Nov 15, 2012 16:38:57 GMT -5
I've got a bad feeling they are going to nerf the FAL... because they suck at balancing semi auto weapons.
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Post by firestorm on Nov 15, 2012 16:46:55 GMT -5
Mousey, can you play now? I still can't...
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Post by I Am Hollywood5 on Nov 15, 2012 22:56:31 GMT -5
pwnsweet's charts show the M27 and Type 25 having the same range. Your chart says the Type 25 has a shorter range than the M27. i dont know what to believe anymore!
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Post by asasa on Nov 15, 2012 23:03:23 GMT -5
So is the T25... which is better than the MTAR from my experience.
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Post by corpsecreate on Nov 15, 2012 23:37:06 GMT -5
pwnsweet's charts show the M27 and Type 25 having the same range. Your chart says the Type 25 has a shorter range than the M27. i dont know what to believe anymore! They both have a range of 125 units as of the most recent patch. We are still in the process of testing before we upload an updated chart. Some new information we have is the min/max damage of each pellet of the shotguns. We've fixed a few typos, one obvious one being the range of the skorpion and are considering including the select fire stats for all burst/semi-auto guns. Also, I should probly highlight this point again. Damage in this game does not drop off linearly. The chart posted in this thread gives the impression that SWAT with select fire will still kill in 3 bullets at a reasonable range - it doesnt.
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Post by I Am Hollywood5 on Nov 16, 2012 1:05:51 GMT -5
pwnsweet's charts show the M27 and Type 25 having the same range. Your chart says the Type 25 has a shorter range than the M27. i dont know what to believe anymore! They both have a range of 125 units as of the most recent patch. We are still in the process of testing before we upload an updated chart. Some new information we have is the min/max damage of each pellet of the shotguns. We've fixed a few typos, one obvious one being the range of the skorpion and are considering including the select fire stats for all burst/semi-auto guns. Also, I should probly highlight this point again. Damage in this game does not drop off linearly. The chart posted in this thread gives the impression that SWAT with select fire will still kill in 3 bullets at a reasonable range - it doesnt. Oh? The Type 25 and M27 both got range buffs? The Type 25 did feel a little better tonight... Thanks for the update. Please do include the select-fire versions of guns in the new chart - I think that's something we'd all like to know the hard facts about. If we have to wait a little longer for the chart, it's worth it =)
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Post by arcanine2009 on Nov 16, 2012 1:10:03 GMT -5
When was the most recent patch?
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Post by firestorm on Nov 16, 2012 4:41:52 GMT -5
This morning, there was some sever update, which stopped me from playing until now. Basically steam had problem pushing last little bit of info into my computer due to some conflict between steam and my ISP, which stopped me from playing any COD. I had no idea, so did lots of checking and waited 4 hour to chat with activation guy who confirmed there was change made to the sever, but he has no solution either. Then I was about to go to sleep 30 min ago, but decide to use my cell phone to connect to BO2, once I've done that, steam was able to send me the last bit of missing info I need, and while I only got online once with my phone, and only in BO2, now I can play MW3 with my home internet as well as BO2.
Foxtrotting dumbest update ever.
On the side note, it's more of my ISP's issue, that Foxtrotting modem had been having red light on for 2 months after they had me completely reset it.
BTW I asked if it's just a sever change, the guy did not know whether other patch was applied.
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Post by snakex on Nov 16, 2012 18:11:22 GMT -5
Update: added silencer, changed from meter to foot and make it smaller
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Post by asasa on Nov 16, 2012 18:25:42 GMT -5
So... is the dropoff instantaneous or linear?
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Post by snakex on Nov 16, 2012 18:49:49 GMT -5
I can't say it, i only test min and max range.
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Post by snakex on Nov 16, 2012 18:58:50 GMT -5
ok i will test this now.
EDIT: it's correct needed 2 stuns on 35 health on 1 foot more after damage drop
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Post by asasa on Nov 16, 2012 19:10:06 GMT -5
Huh? What's correct? Mousey?
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Post by snakex on Nov 16, 2012 19:25:23 GMT -5
my results today was a bit different from this chart. but it's like 1-2 foot lesser. SCAR-H example was on my testing 145 and on this it's 147.
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Post by snakex on Nov 17, 2012 11:14:44 GMT -5
UPDATE: I've done the correct style of damage drop. damage values will be tested tomorrow
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Post by mmacola on Nov 17, 2012 11:42:11 GMT -5
If it isn't too much trouble, is it possible to do a separate chart in meters? You know, for the countries that aren't USA
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Post by mmacola on Nov 17, 2012 11:48:05 GMT -5
I say we just translate it into mw3 units I thought of that, but there would be too many numbers. Meters would be much cleaner IMO.
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Post by Evan950 on Nov 17, 2012 12:03:51 GMT -5
its still hard for many players to assume distance in a game during singleplayer, the lift was like 10m wide from what it said in the objective counter
we need to do something like take a screenshot of a map, and have lines and shades drawn throughout it showing ranges
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Post by mmacola on Nov 17, 2012 12:10:35 GMT -5
its still hard for many players to assume distance in a game during singleplayer, the lift was like 10m wide from what it said in the objective counter we need to do something like take a screenshot of a map, and have lines and shades drawn throughout it showing ranges With time.
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Post by snakex on Nov 17, 2012 12:21:06 GMT -5
it's easier to do it in foot, because of the ingame testing results. and of course i will make a map with lines like in MW2.
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Post by Megaqwerty on Nov 17, 2012 15:33:18 GMT -5
Use units.
The game uses units.
All previous charts use units.
I know what a unit is.
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Post by mmacola on Nov 17, 2012 18:44:00 GMT -5
1 foot = 12 units, so yeah
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Post by Amirror on Nov 17, 2012 19:57:13 GMT -5
Shotgun tests next please!
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Post by xtx on Nov 17, 2012 23:31:17 GMT -5
Are you sure about the M8A1 range? Corpsreate's testing shows its 3-hit kill only extends to 22.
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Post by snakex on Nov 18, 2012 11:05:01 GMT -5
oh, it's about 20 i've made an mistake with the line.
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Post by Lexapro on Nov 18, 2012 11:57:13 GMT -5
I think the chart is very misleading. Your vertical scale isn't the same for each weapon. Visually, it looks like all the guns start and end at the same damage.
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Post by Evan950 on Nov 18, 2012 23:58:07 GMT -5
i used to use the m8a1, and i didnt notice the 22 range. how far is it?
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