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Post by iw5000 on Nov 16, 2012 11:45:58 GMT -5
Ok, i'm putting up this thread so everyone can help each other play better. How i would like for this to work is in the following manner. Go to Elite. Find your Gun stats. On the far right, is your Scorestreaks. Elite will show the number of times you have got a streak...and then how many total kills you have with this. Post up your totals and from time to time, come back and update them.
How can this help? It can help us all, but letting us see just how effective these ScoreStreaks are, in terms of getting extra kills for us. And then allow us ALL to better judge the cost benefit/value of each. If you know a certain streak at 900 pts is only netting 1.70 kills per use, ...you might use something else
Sharing information helps people play better....and win.
So just put up one post that lists any and all the killstreaks you have used, and how many kills with them. Then from time to time, come back to the thread and update your results.This information takes about 20 seconds to get, it's right on Elite. I'll start with myself. if you have a calculator handy, you can add in the pct.
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Updated 11-16-12
750 Lightning Strike 27-50.........1.85 kills per use
650 Guardian 19-14.....................0.73
700 Hellstorm Missile 6-8...........0.75
for fun, i have my equipment totals in too. If you have time to put that in, go ahead.
Semtex 126 - 17....13.4%
Frag 69 - 13 ...........18.8%
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Post by Dumien on Nov 16, 2012 11:52:54 GMT -5
Guardian really isn't a killer though...it is a visible deterrent.
It is difficult to judge its value based on kills.
I will add some stats soon.
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Post by iw5000 on Nov 16, 2012 11:55:28 GMT -5
Guardian really isn't a killer though...it is a visible deterrent. It is difficult to judge its value based on kills. I will add some stats soon. Well, yeah. There's no need to add in things like UAV, C-UAV and such...as they don't get kills. But I included the Guardian because it did get me some kills. I think everyone on this board will be able to differentiate things, pull out the differences and judge them accordingly. |
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Post by Dumien on Nov 16, 2012 12:03:59 GMT -5
Aye
Use - Kill
Lightning strike 19-20
Hellstorm 4-5
Not enough on anything else yet.
It seems that carepackage killstreaks don't count towards their respective usage/kill stat on elite.
Btw I would have to give the care package 9/10 rating. It is far better than other versions of the care package because it sticks the landing and won't take a massive bad hop to kill you. There are also so many good things that can come from the care package. If you have the time to use them...I would.
Also engineer is already such a good perk...rocking care package as one of your scorestreaks just makes it better. You are almost garunteed to get something worth more than the investment you put in.
Edit: I guess I'l continue. I am rolling all lowish killstreaks right now because UAV not only is amazing right now, but the sooner you can flow right into another one...the better. It is one of those killstreaks that really helps you level up. Atm I run UAV/hunter/care
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Post by UrbaneVirtuoso on Nov 16, 2012 12:11:03 GMT -5
Btw I would have to give the care package 9/10 rating. It is far better than other versions of the care package because it sticks the landing and won't take a massive bad hop to kill you.
Not sure if I can share the same sentiment. 
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Post by Dumien on Nov 16, 2012 12:12:05 GMT -5
What is this. I don't even....
Seriously that hasn't happened yet...
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Post by iamthehater on Nov 16, 2012 12:13:13 GMT -5
I also found UAV/Hunter?Care Package to be the best set up to start with.
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Post by UrbaneVirtuoso on Nov 16, 2012 12:19:04 GMT -5
Nothing's fool-proof in the CoDfish world. :3
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2012 16:07:43 GMT -5
Uses-Kills
Lighting Strike 51-96
Haven't used other offensive ones yet.
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Post by brutalonslaught on Nov 16, 2012 17:25:18 GMT -5
I've used quite a few now although Elite looks to be wrong for me, it's not tracking my games properly either so I'll have to just give you my thoughts:
Lightning Strike - pretty brutal actually, very easy to get and I've got multiple triples and a few 4/5 and even a 6 on Ground War Domination.
RC-XD - good chance of getting one kill, lucky if you get more
Hunter Killer - see RCXD above although the bigger explosion probably means a better chance of a double.
Guardian - very good for objective gameplay
Hellstorm Missile - should be getting a double each time given the openness of the maps
Sentry Gun - very good, hard to blow up, shoots through walls , good placement = 4/5 kills
Death Machine - pretty shit but looks badass
War Machine - likewise
Dragonfire - very easy to take down with a gun but manoeuvrable at least
A.G.R. - harder to take down, slow to move around
Stealth Chopper - should get 5 kills at least unless you are playing someone very proactive against AA
Orbital VSAT - god mode
Warthog - IT ACTUALLY SOUNDS LIKE A WARTHOG ON LSD. 10/10 for fear, sadly thats about it from my experience. I've only set it as a killstreak once and got it that game, I was playing a team so bad it really didn't matter.
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Post by RageHulkSmash on Nov 17, 2012 3:40:17 GMT -5
I just started using the sentry gun today and it is AMAZING in this game. Not only does knife not kill it anymore, you don't have to call it in like a care package. Those were my top two reasons for avoiding it in other CoD games. It feels like it stays up until it's destroyed, or has a really long duration (like a couple minutes). And as brutalonslaught said, it pretty much has wallhacks. My stats for it right now are:
Sentry Gun 45-135
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Post by sh58 on Nov 17, 2012 7:41:11 GMT -5
Guys, as well as kills per streak we should look at points per streak as some kill streaks give you 25 and some 15 per kill and some kill streaks give you assist points. So to be worthwhile in points, a 15 point kill streak has to do tonnes more damage then a 25 point score streak. Also we can almost directly compare support steaks with offensive streaks. Just a shame that afaik the amount of assists/suppress ions etc aren't listed  |
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Post by iw5000 on Dec 11, 2012 0:03:24 GMT -5
I'm going to add some of my updated numbers.
Games played. 320 (283-37, 17 dashboard losses)
UAV's - 854 called in, ...2,824 assists.
....averaging around 2,66 to 3.00 UAV's a game when I equip it.
....UAV's, at least for me, are getting me 3.30 assists a use, so 33 pts per use.
Hellstorm.................135 called in, 200 kills. = 1.48 kills per use.
Lightning Strike.....110 called in, 155 kills = 1.41 kills per use.
Hunter Killer...........0.61 kills per use
CUAV......................35.1 pts per use.
Sentry Gun..............1.92 kills per use
Dragon Fire.............2.30 kills per use.
thoughts?
- I not really getting a lot of bang for my buck with the UAV's, in terms of gathering assist points to build to other killstreaks. When this game started, I sort of figured one might get around 60 to 90 pts per UAV, depending on game mode. I am only getting 33. Waaaaaay lower than i thought. With the new 425 point value...I'm not sure UAV's are quite a sure thing, in terms of value.
- Hellstorm continues to have value.
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Post by Dumien on Dec 11, 2012 0:10:41 GMT -5
Since I have had more time... I'l just throw some quick facts your way.
HK gets a little over half as many kills as its useage
RC Car gets half as many kills as usage, but I get far more defends with it than anything barring LS. It is now a major contributing factor to my Blops2 playstyle. I'm never going back.
LS remains my highest Kills/Usage lower KS.
I am considering dropping UAV for CP on my low KS loadout.
Here I talked about everything Ls and below...since higher killstreaks are not as common...especially vs good players. All these I mentioned are practical to get in a tight game.
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Post by asasa on Dec 11, 2012 0:19:10 GMT -5
USED|KILLS|K/U
Lightning Stk: 104| 167 |1.60
Hunter Killer: 101| 62 |0.61
Guardian: 81| 33 |0.41
Hellstorm: 65| 76 |1.17
RC-XD: 36| 27 |0.75
Sentry Gun: 15| 19 |1.27
Dragonfire: 13| 39 |3.00
Warthog: 10| 34 |3.40
AGR: 9| 30 |3.33
Lodestar: 7| 61 |8.71
VTOL: 6| 40 |6.67 |
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Post by I Am Hollywood5 on Dec 11, 2012 1:28:59 GMT -5
Can't look mine up right now but do people honestly think the Lightning Strike is OP when it's consistently under 2 kills per use with almost all players?
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Post by ElysMustache on Dec 11, 2012 1:36:47 GMT -5
USED | KILLS | Kills or Assists per Use
UAV: 4202 | 13107 | 3.12
RC-XD: 4 | 3 | 0.75
Hunter Killer: 526 | 326 | 0.55
Care Package: 580 | 4 | 0.01
CUAV: 2011 | 7933 | 3.94
Guardian: 97 | 21 | 0.22
Hellstorm: 292 | 400 | 1.37
Lightning Strike: 688 | 1106 | 1.61
Sentry Gun: 21 | 27 | 1.29
Dragonfire: 16 | 40 | 2.50
AGR: 131 | 318 | 2.43
Stealth Chopper: 35 | 115 | 3.29
Orbital VSAT: 174 | 1085 | 6.24
Escort Drone: 11 | 38 | 3.45
EMP: 25 | 176 | 7.04
Warthog: 33 | 156 | 4.73
Lodestar: 5 | 29 | 5.80
VTOL: 1 | 8 | 8.00
K9: 12 | 70 | 5.83
Swarm: 3 | 19 | 6.33
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Post by bm01 on Dec 11, 2012 2:30:48 GMT -5
Here's mine! Note this is on PC. I'll try to keep it updated. USED | KILLS | RATIO
UAV: 900 | 2097 | 2.33
Lightning Strike: 285 | 493 | 1.73
Hellstorm: 105 | 132 | 1.26
Hunter Killer: 83 | 58 | 0.70
Guardian: 52 | 23 | 0.44
C-UAV: 28 | 57 | 2.00
Dragonfire: 23 | 98 | 4.26
Stealth Chopper: 15 | 28 | 1.87
AGR: 6 | 15 | 2.50
Sentry: 5 | 13 | 2.60 |
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Post by asasa on Dec 11, 2012 3:27:42 GMT -5
Can't look mine up right now but do people honestly think the Lightning Strike is OP when it's consistently under 2 kills per use with almost all players? Because there was no reaction time. It was announced after the fact you were killed lol. |
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Post by RageHulkSmash on Dec 11, 2012 3:44:54 GMT -5
USED | KILLS| K/U
Care Package: 349 | 2 | 0.01
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Post by Dumien on Dec 11, 2012 3:50:43 GMT -5
lol I have 4 kills with them so far.
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Post by ChloeB42 (Alexcalibur42) on Dec 11, 2012 6:03:20 GMT -5
the LS HS AGR combo is my fav so far in dom / dem anywho
Hunter killer.......323/197...0.61
Care Package......257/2 (both were me lol)
Lightning Strike...151/237...1.57
Hellstorm.............50/71...1.42
Guardian...............48/25...0.52
Dragonfire............14/62...4.43
AGR........................8/55...6.88
Anything else was from a care package and doesn't count.
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Post by ewilly on Dec 12, 2012 1:46:37 GMT -5
UAV 205-510
Counter-UAV 41-129
Hellstorm Missle 31-37
Hunter Killer 28-19
Lightning Strike 6-9
Care Package 2-0
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Post by GoHarvard on Dec 12, 2012 2:09:48 GMT -5
Uses - Kills or Assists
UAV 1974 - 5108
Hunter Killer 833 - 503
CUAV 306- 944
Lightning Strike 219 - 274
Sentry Gun 181 - 351
Hellstorm Missle 147 - 166
Dragon Fire 11 - 22
Updated: 12/18/12
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Post by iw5000 on Dec 12, 2012 9:18:59 GMT -5
It's amazing how calculated and balanced these killstreaks are. Streaks that require a bit more in points, seem to be delivering more kills.
I mentioned this above....but the initial hoopla with using UAV to rack up points to get more streaks....I think is turning out to be overrated.
2.4, 2.8, 3.3.....
Those numbers above are the number of 'assists' people are getting per use. Yes, it is helping teammates, but people are only getting 2 to 3 kills (from other people) for the 30 seconds it's up, on average (this average includes the UAV's being shot down, which lowers the number). That's only a 24 to 33pt boost to the streak total. At 450 pts required, ....uhhh....not so good now.
Before this started, i thought one would easily get 6 to 8 assists kills per use.
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Post by pharq on Dec 12, 2012 9:36:25 GMT -5
streak - used - unit - k/u
UAV - 901 - 2280 - 2.53
lightning strike - 171 - 265 - 1.55
CUAV - 159 - 52--3.27
Hellstorm - 128 - 157 - 1.22
Dragon fire - 113 - 414 - 3.66
Hunter Killer - 112 - 66 - 0.59
AGR - 33 -85- 2.58
Stealth chopper - 16- 59 - 3.69
RCXD - 14 - 10 - 0.714
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Post by corpsecreate on Dec 12, 2012 19:16:44 GMT -5
USED | KILLS| K/U
UAV: 2304 | 4421 | 1.92
RC-XD: 0 | 0 | 0
Hunter Killer: 131 | 77 | 0.59
Care Package: 215 | 2 | 0.01
Counter-UAV: 125 | 383 | 3.06
Guardian: 0 | 0 | 0
Hellstorm Missile: 1 | 1 | 1
Lightning Strike: 32 | 45 | 1.41
Sentry Gun: 26 | 55 | 2.12
Death Machine: 0 | 0 | 0
War Machine: 4 | 14 | 3.5
Dragonfire: 8 | 11 | 1.38
AGR: 43 | 120 | 2.79
Stealth Chopper: 50 | 170 | 3.4
Orbital VSAT: 144 | 526 | 3.65
Escort Drone: 3 | 10 | 3.33
EMP Systems: 8 | 31 | 3.88
Warthog: 31 | 137 | 4.42
Lodestar: 1 | 0 | 0
VTOL Warship: 3 | 14 | 4.67
K9 Unit: 12 | 65 | 5.42
Swarm: 15 | 96 | 6.4
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Post by I Am Hollywood5 on Dec 13, 2012 12:47:38 GMT -5
Can't look mine up right now but do people honestly think the Lightning Strike is OP when it's consistently under 2 kills per use with almost all players? Because there was no reaction time. It was announced after the fact you were killed lol. But then we are stuck with the BO1 mortar strike and airstrikes from MW2 and 3. The time to evade it should be minimal, or else it isn't worth 750 points. They should have just given Flak Jacket a huge boost against it. |
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Post by jagerllbomb on Dec 13, 2012 13:12:00 GMT -5
Here are my usage and Kills Stats: | Score Streak | Usage | Kills | K/U | | Care Package | 34 | 1 | 0.03 | | Gaurdian | 30 | 8 | 0.27 | | Hunter Killer | 230 | 118 | 0.51 | | RC-XD | 1 | 1 | 1.00 | | Hellstorm | 71 | 83 | 1.17 | | Klightning Strike | 201 | 258 | 1.28 | | Escort Drone | 2 | 3 | 1.50 | | Sentry Gun | 257 | 512 | 1.99 | | AGR | 30 | 63 | 2.10 | | Dragonfire | 18 | 41 | 2.28 | | Death Machine | 11 | 29 | 2.64 | | Stealth Chopper | 120 | 415 | 3.46 | | Warthog | 3 | 14 | 4.67 | | VTOL Warship | 1 | 5 | 5.00 | | Swarm | 2 | 12 | 6.00 | | Loadestar | 19 | 122 | 6.42 | | K9 Unit | 2 | 21 | 10.50 |
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Post by iw5000 on Dec 13, 2012 13:17:49 GMT -5
NOTE TO EVERYONE
When you put down the UAV and C-UAV stats, disregard how many kills you get with it. It's irrelevant. What is more important is how many assists you get with it. This is the figure we need to know.
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