So, it should be awesome but I'm not getting the hang of it.
I'm struggling a bit with the irons - all other SMG's I've hardly ADS'd with at all but I can see that this has the real bonus of longer range use.
Spamming the trigger gives an almost insane fire rate but then the muzzle flash seems to draw my eye. So I'm thinking I need an RDS but hate using them, especially on an SMG.
How are you guys finding it and what sort of setups do you prefer?
Post by aidsaidsaids on Nov 18, 2012 11:06:05 GMT -5
It's a solid middle ground between the bullet hose (EVO) and laser (Vector). I found Silencer+Laser effective. I run it with the same perks as my other SMGs: Ghost, Lightweight, Cold Blooded, Dexterity, and Extreme Conditioning.
Anyway here is the footage: Recorded at 120 FPS. Slowed down 4 times. Macros firing every 10 ms. It would be nice if someone could measure the firerate, cuz i'm derp and dunno the formula.
Post by Megaqwerty on Nov 18, 2012 15:46:14 GMT -5
I think a lot of skill is needed to time the bursts perfectly: when I was just spamming the trigger, I was getting a very low overall rate of fire, which was highly detrimental in CQC with a four hit kill.
Sounds like it would be beast with a macro though.
Gun fires at 1250 RPM, Champ. Supposedly has no burst delay.
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Post by I Am Hollywood5 on Nov 19, 2012 1:57:35 GMT -5
sucks. Chicom sucks. Pointless gun. The Skorpion is the full-auto version of the gun with 9 meters less of 4HK range and 4 less bullets per mag. I think I'll take that trade.
everything said above plus more. Favorite SMG bar none.
because there's no burst delay, you pretty much fire near skorpion speed in CQB. I've found the burst function to be very helpful in long range engagements.
How are you guys finding it and what sort of setups do you prefer?
I don't want 4 smg classes with an MSMC on
The Vector and MP7 have some clear advantages to the MSMC, I wouldn't write them off (and this is coming from a guy who favors the MSMC immensely). I'm not saying they're better than the MSMC in the slightest, but I would say some maps and play styles can favor them more.
I like Rapid Fire + Quick Draw on the Chicom. I think Rapid Fire is amazing on the gun, insane DPS up close and still the best SMG from afar. Select Fire turns the gun into a quintessential Vector or MP7 at the cost of an attachment, making it useless to use in my experience. In theory, the CQB could be just about the strongest gun in the game, but it would take a very well-tuned trigger finger and staying at 100% skill while doing so to be that strong.
I agree, except for on the Chicom and possibly the Skorpion. You can't one-burst-kill regardless, so the range disadvantage is much less harsh, and it doesn't destroy its deadly long-range game. It feels reminiscent of the Type-95 with Rapid Fire from MW3.
Post by aidsaidsaids on Nov 23, 2012 0:10:27 GMT -5
You lose hipfire accuracy and range, which means a ttk reduction at a certain range as well as less consistency up close (the only range your rapid fire was going to help in the first place because of the range reduction). It's good if you're pre aimed in a headglitch, but that's the plan you're on you should be using an M8A1. For moving around and doing what SMGs do Rapid Fire is worse on the Chicom and extra worse on the Scorpion.
Post by Wonder Showzen on Nov 23, 2012 5:08:23 GMT -5
What does Rapidfire do to the Chicom? Does it make the burst into a "single mega-bullet" ala MW3's Type95+RF? If a single mega-bullet burst does not kill someone up close, and you still have to spam the trigger, why add RF?
Last Edit: Nov 23, 2012 5:13:12 GMT -5 by Wonder Showzen
Rapidfire on the Chicom is counterproductive. Being able to spit out more bullets faster is a dubious "advantage" when you're effectively increasing the average number of bursts it takes to kill an enemy due to Rapidfire destroying the gun's range when attached. It turns the gun into a six bullet kill far too quickly to be practical. According to the chart, a guy who would be a guaranteed four bullet i.e. two-burst kill without Rapidfire could already be in six bullet kill range with Rapidfire, which almost certainly means it's going to take at least one more burst to kill.
The Chicom and Type 95 have nothing in common outside of being burst-fire weapons.
Rapid fire is a killer in this game, really. If you feel you must use it, for whatever dumb reason you got, you sure as hell need Ext. Clip, Fast Hands and Scavenger.
I agree, except for on the Chicom and possibly the Skorpion. You can't one-burst-kill regardless, so the range disadvantage is much less harsh, and it doesn't destroy its deadly long-range game. It feels reminiscent of the Type-95 with Rapid Fire from MW3.
What? Rapid Fire destroys the range on the Chicom more than most SMGs. And if you can't just hold down the trigger to spray at unholy rates of fire, it just makes it even worse. I wouldn't recommend RF on ANY smg in this game, but the Chicom would be the last gun I'd recommend it for.
Dropping the Chicom into minimum damage range about halfway through what would normally be its max damage range is going to turn a lot of two burst kills into three or more bursts kills.
Anyone else not like the irons on this gun. They are just really distracting to me and i always have to use an optic if I am not going to be primarily hipfiring.
Fast Mags and Laser Sight dropping snipers across the map slapping Scorpion users in close range alla dey erry dey. Oh my word this gun is amazing, never have I had a more consistent high K/D with a weapon besides the AA12, M-14, M60, M16, and RPD and maybe a few others I forgot.
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