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Post by Usagi on Jun 26, 2013 20:27:07 GMT -5
The Cap was my favorite character until Wolf came in. I'm hearing rumors that they're gonna take him out. If that happens I'm sure they'll add Bluetits McFurrydream just to add insult to injury.
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Post by jaedrik on Jun 28, 2013 22:11:58 GMT -5
It is very unlikely they will take the Captain out, but seeing as Miyamoto said he couldn't think of any new direction to take F-Zero in, as such there's no new one in the works, it's unlikely they will get a second rep (RIP, Goroh and Black Shadow), in my opinion of course. And wolf? I hope they don't take him out, he had a very unique and cool moveset for Brawl, StarFox doesn't deserve another rep, again in my opinion, this time. Sakurai updates the official Smashbros.com site every weekday at around 3 A.M. Central time (woo, Japan time returns!). Every time I see a picture of Link I get more and more mad, his chainmail looks like frayed linen and his legs clip through his skirt constantly.
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Post by Aphoristic on Jun 28, 2013 22:52:06 GMT -5
It shouldn't be too hard to figure out what characters have little chance of returning. Dr. Mario didn't make it to Brawl. There's a chance they could make him into an actual alternate costume for Mario, but almost none of him returning. Lucario has a good chance of dropping in favor of Mewtwo (with his new form). Pichu, Roy, Young Link all should have almost zero chance of reappearing. Personally, I'm doubting Sheik will reappear. Maybe, because she was in OoT 3D, she might reappear. Other than that, she hasn't been in any game since OoT which came out what, 15 years ago now? She also had her model that was made for Twilight Princess that was never used. I suppose if she is being considered for the next console Zelda, maybe she would make it. Snake is probably out. I mean, there is a chance he could return if Kojima begs again for him to stay, and technically they had the 3DS version of Snake Eater, but that would mean he is Big Boss. Actually, that would be pretty cool, do that please. Wolf won't be gone. Falco has a higher chance of leaving before Wolf does. Toon Link is another who could easily get booted out for any potentially better character. Other than these guys, maybe Pokemon Trainer's Pokemon will get changed or even him to a different trainer. Hes definitely a difficult character to have made in the first place though, so he could just get cut entirely. Everyone else is fairly safe. As for new characters I want to see, Ridley... please? Given how Nintendo just hates Metroid right now, it's not likely, but come on. Hell, just copy Charizard's moves over and cut Pokemon Trainer for him
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Post by Usagi on Jul 3, 2013 10:45:18 GMT -5
I forget where I read it but there was an article somewhere that quoted Sakurai as stating that he's going to "trim the fat" of the roster even though it's very hard for him to do so because he loves them. Based on that, Dr. Mario is absolutely not coming back, and if they're going to take out a Star Fox character it will most definitely be Falco (man the pros will be pissed about that). Hopefully they leave Ganondorf in the game but dramatically change him like they did with Bowser so that he not a kinda-sorta clone of the Cap. Lucas will most definitely be taken out, and will hopefully be replaced by another Mother character that's very different from Ness. I also doubt that they'll add more Kirby characters.
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Post by Zero IX on Jul 3, 2013 11:30:19 GMT -5
ridleys too big
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Post by Aphoristic on Jul 3, 2013 12:50:12 GMT -5
Bowser is absolutely enormous, bigger than Ridley is.
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Post by jaedrik on Jul 3, 2013 19:47:26 GMT -5
www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/03/creating-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u-and-3ds?page=1There's been tons of interviews like this. There's a good man I know named Oasis here on the internets, he has many Ridley size comparisons, and backed by stuff like Mousey said with Bowser's constant size changes (not to mention NES Ridley wasn't big) and it's pretty much accepted that Ridley is not too big. Ridley is #1. Namco Bandai has the opportunity to get a character in Smash. Personally I want Yoshimitsu, he would represent Soul Calibur, Tekken, he's been in Street Fighter and a number of other things. He's practically a mascot. Certainly the most heated debates here and overseas are about Fire Emblem representatives. I would want Anna, I even wrote a small essay about her, she is the mascot of the series being in every game except Gaiden, much like my reasons for favoring Yoshimitsu. When asked about the roster, Sakurai usually always says one thing that sticks out in particular, what can the character bring to Smash? What is their potential and uniqueness? It's why I want Anna so bad, she's got so much potential. But as has been noted, the roster is already decided, so we can only guess. Likelihood is not something anyone can claim now anyways, because Wii Fit Trainer, and also Villager being stated pre-brawl to never make it in Smash because he's not really a fighting character. Sakurai's inner machinations truly come from that enigmatic mind.
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Post by Dumien on Jul 4, 2013 1:53:52 GMT -5
For a while I was thinking the Bayonetta lady would appear.
I have a feeling on the pokemon side of things they are going to have mewtwo with a zelda/sheik style transform ....er... "transforme" move between the two formes. But hey... I was pegging a mode changing deoxys before and that never happened.
To be honest... if Namco/Bandai is bringing one I want WarGreymon.... just because I want to see a digimon fight a pokemon :x
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Post by Zero IX on Jul 4, 2013 15:33:34 GMT -5
too big
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Post by jaedrik on Jul 6, 2013 13:26:05 GMT -5
Shaddap For a while I was thinking the Bayonetta lady would appear. I have a feeling on the pokemon side of things they are going to have mewtwo with a zelda/sheik style transform ....er... "transforme" move between the two formes. But hey... I was pegging a mode changing deoxys before and that never happened. To be honest... if Namco/Bandai is bringing one I want WarGreymon.... just because I want to see a digimon fight a pokemon :x Yeah, especially with the Bayonetta 2 Wii U exclusive. We'll see, though. Pokemon. I remember there being huge arguments about Zoroark, Vicinti, etc. and lololololol Gardevoir (though generally disregarded, still popular). But yeah, from what I've seen the vast majority want Mewtwo back, he was baller in Melee except for his incredible lightweightedness and eh attack priority which made him mid tier. M2K hilarious sandbagging with Mewtwo. What if Pac-man gets in for the Namco/Bandai rep? 'Tis possible. Think about it. Sonic, Mario, Megaman, Pac-man. . . Woah what? That would be insane awesome. Anyways, Sonic is most assuredly going to be in with Nintendo and Sega being all buddy buddy exclusive recently.
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Post by jaedrik on Jul 10, 2013 12:06:37 GMT -5
Gentlemen? Mission accomplished. Yesterday we got to participate in a community spirit bomb in the social medias to express our dissatisfaction at Nintendo ordering a cease and desist in allowance for streaming of Melee. They have since reverted after the huge community outcry, and we will be streamed again. Glorious. evo.shoryuken.com/2013/07/09/changes-to-evo-2013-smash-schedule/Check out Mousey's EVO thread, get hyped!
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Post by Zero IX on Jul 10, 2013 15:25:48 GMT -5
nintendo doesnt understand technolology
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Post by Dumien on Jul 10, 2013 18:25:32 GMT -5
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Post by jaedrik on Jul 10, 2013 21:35:00 GMT -5
Errant legal departments making stupid choices, I'm sure it was what they thought was best, Nintendo of America's legal department at that. Sometimes I wished IP didn't exist, like it doesn't in certain industries. They didn't want the massive wave of bad PR, so when the higher ups heard about it - that is if the cease and desist was sent with a degree of autonomy - it got reversed almost immediately. I thought it only lasted for about an hour. I was right there when it went down.nowaitlol that's just when everything exploded. But when was the site updated?
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Post by Usagi on Jul 17, 2013 17:37:41 GMT -5
They figured out a sneaky way of making me pay sales tax twice on the eShop. Fuck that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2013 1:01:25 GMT -5
I'm not sure if this is because level 9 AI is a joke in SSBM, Mewtwo's OP, or if this guy's a legend.
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Post by Usagi on Jul 18, 2013 8:10:53 GMT -5
The AI in any Smash Bros. game is a joke, but Melee's is a special kind of stupid. Case in point: Poor Fox
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Post by Aphoristic on Jul 18, 2013 13:19:45 GMT -5
To beat some of the event matches you need to rely on the ai being pants on head retarded. Especially the last one. They always only walk at you, Ganondorf always up Bs if you go over him, so you can abuse that near a ledge so he suicides, Mewtwo can get pushed off the edge by his teammates if he is charging his B. Etc.
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Post by jaedrik on Jul 20, 2013 0:59:47 GMT -5
I'm not sure if this is because level 9 AI is a joke in SSBM, Mewtwo's OP, or if this guy's a legend. TAS means its tool assisted, so it the most perfect result of several runs. Cant really tell from someting like this though. Tool Assisted Speedruns, they're glorious things. No, what the person did is take a program (or coding device like Action Replay), and played the game frame by frame, manually inputting each move to get the fastest/coolest possible result. Legend if by legend you mean sitting for hours at a time going excruciatingly slow and constantly going back a few frames in save states to get the perfect input.
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Post by Dumien on Jul 20, 2013 1:08:05 GMT -5
that is pretty legendary. Its more like art than fighting.
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Post by Usagi on Jul 21, 2013 12:43:14 GMT -5
That's pretty damn cool. They must have a lot of spare time on their hands.
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Post by Zero IX on Jul 26, 2013 8:29:48 GMT -5
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Post by Usagi on Jul 26, 2013 10:38:09 GMT -5
I think he was making a joke about Sakurai acting like Hideo Kojima because he's known for being a pretentious artsy-fartsy man also because they look the same.
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Post by jaedrik on Jul 26, 2013 14:20:14 GMT -5
Wow.
Well, Smashboards, the community I frequent, took the news of no cutscenes in a very positive light, apparently a lot of other places like GaymeFAQs and news sites took this really bad. There have been earlier interviews saying things along the lines of more like Melee's Adventure mode than a SSE. I for one was not fond of the SSE (Marth and Zelda don't interact at all!), but the few good points it had were done very little (stuff like Lucas and PKMN Trainer's interaction, Lucas being afraid and going through character development), and I like Sakurai's reasons for not having that type of reward of cutscenes. I'm glad that he's taking it in the direction he is. In other news, Pikmin and Olimar were revealed in alignment with the Japanese release of Pikmin 3.
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Post by Zero IX on Jul 26, 2013 16:15:45 GMT -5
I didn't care one bit for Adventure or SSE, nor do I care that the cutscenes are getting removed—like, that stuff doesn't matter at all.
Sakurai's justification is still literaLLy more retarded than the retardation that's followed his original retarding, and further proof that he and his team of nintentards will never make a better game than Melee.
good night sweet prince
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Post by jaedrik on Jul 26, 2013 20:33:09 GMT -5
I didn't care one bit for Adventure or SSE, nor do I care that the cutscenes are getting removed—like, that stuff doesn't matter at all. Sakurai's justification is still literaLLy more retarded than the retardation that's followed his original retarding, and further proof that he and his team of nintentards will never make a better game than Melee. good night sweet prince Obviously, you can't top perfection ;)
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Post by Zero IX on Jul 26, 2013 21:54:17 GMT -5
I didn't care one bit for Adventure or SSE, nor do I care that the cutscenes are getting removed—like, that stuff doesn't matter at all. Sakurai's justification is still literaLLy more retarded than the retardation that's followed his original retarding, and further proof that he and his team of nintentards will never make a better game than Melee. good night sweet prince Obviously, you can't top perfection It's true. I'm just bitter because watching Smash at EVO reminded me how GOAT that game was and still is, "true" fighting game or not. (You guys know me... I'm no purist)
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Post by Aphoristic on Jul 27, 2013 0:14:08 GMT -5
Brawl at least got rid of all the stupid "clones"... at least to the point where they were all "Luigi-fied". That's about the only decision I didn't like in Project M, to return everyone to their old clone selves.
Shame that creativity doesn't make a game really good though.
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Post by Usagi on Jul 28, 2013 1:12:05 GMT -5
I thought some of the cutscenes in SSE were really cool. I didn't care much for the mode itself though, I played it just to play through once and then unlock all of the characters.
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Post by jaedrik on Jul 28, 2013 14:43:17 GMT -5
Obviously, you can't top perfection ;) It's true. I'm just bitter because watching Smash at EVO reminded me how GOAT that game was and still is, "true" fighting game or not. (You guys know me... I'm no purist) It's a true fighting game, but Sakurai has explicitly stated that this time they're trying to go for a faster, more Melee-like game, so have hope, but to what degree? It's probably going to be in between Brawl and Melee. Wavedashing, L-canceling, pretty much every AT in Melee was designed in and accepted by Sakurai before release, he knew about them, so have hope. Did you all know that Brawl's custcenes were all completely uncompressed and took up 3 or so gigs? lololololol I'm still glad it's gone, looks like AlphaOmegaSin is upset about it, though. I ain't even mad, I didn't like SSE because it still didn't do enough to connect the characters and show interaction and character development, like Lucas and Pokemon trainer and the relationship and development, really Lucas was the only meaningful character in that way. Oh, the Fox/Falco and Diddy Kong thing was awesome in this way too, and so was the little interaction between Captain Falcon and Captain Olimar. Now, if they compressed the cutscenes AND made more character interaction and development, holy **** this game would be awesome and the story mode would be hella hype in what SSE failed in large to deliver.
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