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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 19, 2014 19:50:06 GMT -5
Peruns Fire and 1.Gheleon's Demise These weapons are expensive, each cost 11,500 glimmers. With 25K cap and boots/gloves cost 9950 each, after you get the boots you'll only have enough glimmer to get 1 weapon. If you want the other you'll need to farm glimmers. I am broke (spent my glimmers to buy 50 packs of special ammo on a exotic bounty) and have barely enough glimmer to buy the gloves.
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Post by iw5000 on Nov 20, 2014 0:58:23 GMT -5
Came home tonight and looked at my stat sheet for the two weapons...i am having second thoughts. The Gheleon's Demise is really nothing special, at least based on my math. It's only a mid tier Scout rifle. I will not be buying it and would recommend against it. Perun's isn't much better.
Save the glimmer.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 20, 2014 12:10:58 GMT -5
For raid night tonight, I assume that we have the following roster:
1) Witty 2) HebbNH 3) Thebb22 4) IW5K 5) Dumien 6) Open
I can start at 5:30pm PT. Feel free to start without me if you guys have a team ready to go earlier. Mal might be able to play at 4:30PT and he has Gatekeeper checkpoints.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 21, 2014 8:36:58 GMT -5
Came home tonight and looked at my stat sheet for the two weapons...i am having second thoughts. The Gheleon's Demise is really nothing special, at least based on my math. It's only a mid tier Scout rifle. I will not be buying it and would recommend against it. Perun's isn't much better. Save the glimmer. Cross compared Gheleon's Demise with Proxima Centauri II that I already own (also available at Vanguard Quartermaster). The 2 have almost identical stats. Perun's fire has worse range and impact than Light/Beware that I already own (also available at Vanguard Quartermaster). so not good buys unless you just want the cool Iron Banner looks of the weapon. I am skipping both of them and go for the shader as proof of reaching IB rank 5.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 21, 2014 12:27:53 GMT -5
Last night is another great raid night. The 4 man clutch on the last round of conflux defense is epic!
Time to plan for the rest of this weekly cycle:
Saturday: this is a tough day as AW clan war placement and Sunset Overdrive free to play also happen on this day. I assume no Destiny partying.
Sunday: this is my Iron Banner day. I will play the crap out of it to reach rank 5. Hopefully I can see many of you online and we can join force.
Monday evening: I might be able to play. Depending on how our IB grindings go, we can either play IB or have another assault on the Gatekeepers and Atheon. Desperately need Atheon's Epilogue and Titan Helmet, which can only be obtained at the end of the Raid.
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Post by hebbnh on Nov 21, 2014 14:25:33 GMT -5
Here's my outlook:
Saturday -- Hoping to get some Iron Banner in, but don't know how much time I'll have. If nothing else I'd like to play a few games to get bounties completed, hopefully across multiple characters if there's enough time. Sunday -- Iron Banner, Iron Banner, and more Iron Banner. Should have at least 6 hours to devote to this, mostly in the evening but potentially a few games earlier in the day also. Monday -- Same as Sunday, but for sure only in the evening due to work.
My plan of attack is to get the 4 easy bounties (10K XP, 10 LMG headshots, 20 AR headshots, 10 melee kills) done ASAP, then switch characters, rinse, and repeat. That should take maybe 5 games max. If I'm lucky I'll complete the 2 harder bounties (5 headshot sprees, 10 kills without dying) in the process, but if not I'll deal with them once the easy stuff is out of the way.
Math time! Rank 1 takes 100 rep; 2 is another 1200; and 3, 4 and 5 are 2400 each; for a total of 8500 rep needed to hit rank 5. Doing just the 4 easy bounties over 5 games and assuming an equal win/loss ratio, I should get 625 rep on average before accounting for any buffs. That jumps to 756 rep when you factor in the emblem and shader bonuses. Add the Tempered buff to that (40% today) and I'm at 1058. If that buff continues along the current pattern, holding the above conditions constant, you're looking at 1210 rep Saturday, 1399 rep Sunday, and 1625 rep Monday. That's 5292 rep -- 86% of the way to rank 4 -- for playing 20 games. Not bad!
If you can complete all 6 bounties in 5 games while winning each game like I had the extremely good fortune of doing last night, you get 850 base rep. With the shader and emblem bonus, that's 1028 rep. Add the Tempered buff with the above expectations and that's 1440 rep today, 1645 Saturday, 1902 Sunday, and 2211 Monday, for a total of 7198 -- 85% of the way to rank 5! That doesn't include the class item bonus either, since A) I don't have one, and B) it's not unlocked until rank 4. If you do have one, take all of the above numbers times 1.1 to get your theoretical rep gain. If my math is right, with the 3 item bonuses, plus Tempered, you should end up at 7918 rep, just 582 points short of rank 5.
Ok -- now everyone feel free to shoot holes in my math/logic. Go!
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 21, 2014 14:34:20 GMT -5
I am a pessimist when it comes to grinding. I am prepared to buy the buff and play nonstop (almost) for 12 hours on Sunday on my Hunter, or until I reach rank 5. Don't need 30-light boots & gloves on Warlock and Titan, so probably won't grind as much. That said, I may play with Warlock in IB to get my Bad Juju bounty crucible requirement done.
After that I'll probably switch my focus to material farming. I have the gears and shards to get Titan to level 30, but have a daunting task of material farming. My plan is to get Titan to level 30 hopefully before Monday, so I can do hard Raid with Titan on Monday night to have a shot at that Raid helmet. I have an OK Titan exotic helmet (Inmost Light), but would very much like to make room for Armamentarium...
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Post by iw5000 on Nov 21, 2014 16:17:35 GMT -5
heb
The LMG headshot is pretty hard, isn't it? There are only a few Heavy drops a game, and if you die after getting it, you lose them.
You are switching characters? So you will be trying to level up three characters to Rank 5? Or is there some way to transfer bounties to other characters?
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Post by hebbnh on Nov 21, 2014 16:59:30 GMT -5
heb The LMG headshot is pretty hard, isn't it? There are only a few Heavy drops a game, and if you die after getting it, you lose them. You are switching characters? So you will be trying to level up three characters to Rank 5? Or is there some way to transfer bounties to other characters? Make getting heavy ammo a priority -- which is a good strategy anyway -- and it's not too bad. Seriously, just ignore control points completely when it's almost time for it to drop. You'll be able to retake them easily anyway afterwards. It comes in at 9, 6, and 3 minutes remaining in small maps, and 10, 8, 6, 4, and 2 minutes remaining on vehicle maps. Keep an eye on the game clock to make sure you're at the heavy ammo spawn point early so you have the drop on the other team who will most likely be rushing to get there after it's announced. Yes, I'm trying to level 3 different characters. I need boots for my Hunter to hit 30, and gauntlets get me to 29 on my Titan. Warlock gauntlets don't help me right now, but they do open up more combinations of drops that would get me to 29 and 30 -- this is my lowest priority but would still like to get it done. I also want to hit rank 5 on one character for the shader, and rank 4 with all 3 characters to get the class item. Not sure I'll have enough time or glimmer for all that though!
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 21, 2014 17:07:11 GMT -5
LMG headshots is not hard, you just need to make grabbing the ammo a high priority, and be wise of using the ammo once you get it. The 10+ kill streaks and handgun headshot streaks are the bounties that I don't even pick up The hardest part of IB purchase might be the glimmers. Lord Saladin does put ridiculously pricy tags on stuff he is selling..
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Post by mannon on Nov 21, 2014 17:14:30 GMT -5
Is there anything worth investing glimmer in to avoid capping that could be converted back to glimmer without too high a cost? I'm thinking along the lines of people NOT like me who are always capping and might be thinking it would be nice to store up some glimmer for the next time there's an IB or something.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 21, 2014 17:17:45 GMT -5
Is there anything worth investing glimmer in to avoid capping that could be converted back to glimmer without too high a cost? I'm thinking along the lines of people NOT like me who are always capping and might be thinking it would be nice to store up some glimmer for the next time there's an IB or something. Converting glimmer to goods just to sell them later to get glimmer back might not be a good idea, because you will get ripped off too hard during the process. I suggest buying the following: 1) Whenever Gunsmith has rare fusion rifle on sale, buy 50 of them. Need this for Pocket Infinity bounty; 2) Buy special ammo synthesis ($250 a piece) until you have 50. Need this for Invective bounty; 3) After that, buy heavy ammo synthesis ($950 a piece) whenever you are near the cap. You can never have too many of these;
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 24, 2014 13:50:31 GMT -5
Should we plan something for tonight?
I am still not sure wether I can play tonight or not. If I can, I should be able to start around 6:30PT. Will we be able to get a hard raid going? It would be great if we can.
Also, I can definitely help with IB if anybody still needs to grind some more by the time I am on.
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Post by hebbnh on Nov 24, 2014 14:01:18 GMT -5
I'm hoping to be able to knock out the last of my IB grinding in a couple hours. Then I'll probably have to farm glimmer for another hour or two to be able to afford all the junk I want to buy. If everything goes to plan, I should be finishing up right about the time you'd be able to get on. Hard raid would be great if we're able to get a group together! Hopefully we'll have an easier time with the Gatekeepers this attempt since we'll have more Gjallarhorns! If we can knock that out quickly, Atheon shouldn't be bad at all based on all the stuff we learned last time.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 24, 2014 14:06:30 GMT -5
I bought all the cosmetic stuff and am still wondering about the 2 weapons. Somebody said that the Fusion Rifle is good, so I am tempted to buy that one just to have a bit fun with re-forge. I only have 1,000 glimmer left though. If I do the exclusion zone farming, how much time do I need to get 10,000 glimmer?
On a related note: this week is Thanksgiving week so I imagine that most people will be busy with family stuff. I for example, after today probably won't be able to play much games until Sunday.
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Post by thebb22 on Nov 24, 2014 14:13:21 GMT -5
I'm in for a raid tonight. I should be done with IB by the time you're on. Also, clearing out all those Vex in the raid should be a great way to farm glimmer. Unless of course we actually blow through it on the first try!
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 24, 2014 14:25:36 GMT -5
My Titan is 70 helium away from level 30, and I really want to get that done so I can raid using him and have a shot at Raid helmet. Probably won't have time for that if we can get a Raid team together by the time I am on, in that case I'll just go with my Warlock and hope for weapons.
Anybody knows the precise time of when Lord Saladin will leave the tower? Is that 1am PT or 2am PT? I probably will try to squeeze the glimmer farming in after the Raid (if we can do one).
Too many things to grind, and not enough time...
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Post by hebbnh on Nov 24, 2014 14:32:25 GMT -5
Destiny Timers App shows weekly reset happening 13.5 hours from now -- which should be 1:00 AM PST.
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Post by malgato on Nov 24, 2014 14:53:44 GMT -5
No raid for me unless I have miraculously cranked through my IB and glimmer grinds.
I need 3300 rep on one character and I would let to get 5700 rep on another (although that seems improbable...).
And I'll need about 30,000 glimmer...
Ack.
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Post by iw5000 on Nov 24, 2014 15:06:14 GMT -5
I bought all the cosmetic stuff and am still wondering about the 2 weapons. Somebody said that the Fusion Rifle is good, so I am tempted to buy that one just to have a bit fun with re-forge. I only have 1,000 glimmer left though. If I do the exclusion zone farming, how much time do I need to get 10,000 glimmer? If you use the booster material piece, you should be able to do that in 72 minutes.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 24, 2014 15:29:56 GMT -5
No raid for me unless I have miraculously cranked through my IB and glimmer grinds. I need 3300 rep on one character and I would let to get 5700 rep on another (although that seems improbable...). And I'll need about 30,000 glimmer... Ack. Yesterday it took me 11 hours and 40 minutes (boy, I am putting that buff into serious usage ) to get 7800 IB reps. I was very light on Bounties though, so I have to do it the hard way. Also, hopefully today's buff is huge considering it is the last day.
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Post by hebbnh on Nov 24, 2014 16:30:59 GMT -5
Buff today is 150%, so you can make up a lot of ground very quickly. The bounties alone will get you almost 2000 rep.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 24, 2014 17:22:53 GMT -5
Update on my schedule: I should be able to play tonight. 6:30 is a bit tight though, I'll make it 7pm PT just to be safe.
VoG hard raid 11/24 Monday, tentative start 7pm PT
1. HebbNH 2. Thebb22 3. Witty 4. Open 5. Open 6. Open
Since 7pm is a bit late, If you guys can find enough players earlier than that then just go on without me.
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Post by hebbnh on Nov 25, 2014 10:08:24 GMT -5
Not sure what everyone's schedule looks like this week -- probably going to be tough to get a raid organized, but we may be able to make something work. I know IW5K was going to be out of town for a while and I'm sure others will have plans as well. I'll only be available tonight, Thursday night, and possibly Monday night. THebb and I are planning to do some Nightfalls and Heroics tonight if anyone wants to get in on that action. If we can't get anything organized I'll be spending the remainder of my play time material and glimmer farming so I can actually level up my new gear and replenish the whopping 63,150 glimmer I dropped on Iron Banner junk (3 armor pieces, 3 class items, 2 emblems, and 2 shaders) over the course of the week. Feel free to join if you're as broke as I am -- only 1712 glimmer and less than 8 of all 4 planet materials left in the vault!
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 25, 2014 13:49:29 GMT -5
Most likely I won't have time to play before Sunday except for late night slots (but things could change), so looks like organized raids are unlikely this week. I would love to party up on material farming, nightfall, and weekly. If nobody can raid on Sunday, I'll try LFG again.
We are 2 weeks away from expansion pack 1, let's talk about readiness for new raid. The million glimmer question: what do I need?
1) Leveling wise I am good: should be able to hit level 30 on all 3 of my characters. I do want to be able to get a few more raids in though, for Titan raid helmet and raid weapons; 2) Weapon check, what are the weapons to acquire & upgrade? Do I only need to worry about Solar damage, or more than that, like Arc as well? 3) Anything else?
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 26, 2014 19:08:08 GMT -5
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Post by Dumien on Nov 26, 2014 19:23:57 GMT -5
Most likely I won't have time to play before Sunday except for late night slots (but things could change), so looks like organized raids are unlikely this week. I would love to party up on material farming, nightfall, and weekly. If nobody can raid on Sunday, I'll try LFG again. We are 2 weeks away from expansion pack 1, let's talk about readiness for new raid. The million glimmer question: what do I need? 1) Leveling wise I am good: should be able to hit level 30 on all 3 of my characters. I do want to be able to get a few more raids in though, for Titan raid helmet and raid weapons; 2) Weapon check, what are the weapons to acquire & upgrade? Do I only need to worry about Solar damage, or more than that, like Arc as well? 3) Anything else? I'm going to be writing an extensive post on this in about 1 week. I have some theories about "best possible" loadouts for TDB.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 28, 2014 7:05:14 GMT -5
I would like to see what raids we can do during this week's cycle: I should be able to play on Sunday and Monday night, and Dumien has given me hard Oracle checkpoint on all 3 of my characters. Ideally I am thinking about the following: 1) 1 hard run all the way to the finish line on Monday night; 2) Since Monday night time is very limited, I am thinking on Sunday 2-3 Oracle->Gatekeeper hard speed runs, and maybe 2 Gatekeeper->finish normal runs; This is because I want to get as many shots on the following weapons as possible: Praetorian Foil - awarded after Oracle hard Fatebringer - awarded after Templar hard Vision of Confluence - awarded after Atheon normal or hard Etheon's Epilogue - awarded after Atheon normal or hard Anybody interested in joining me? If not, I probably will give LFG a serious try.
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Post by thebb22 on Nov 28, 2014 10:33:13 GMT -5
I'm in for a Monday raid for sure. And I hope to make some time Sunday evening to do oracle checkpoints on a couple characters. Can't make any promises for Sunday though.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Dec 1, 2014 2:40:48 GMT -5
I would like to see what raids we can do during this week's cycle: I should be able to play on Sunday and Monday night, and Dumien has given me hard Oracle checkpoint on all 3 of my characters. Ideally I am thinking about the following: 1) 1 hard run all the way to the finish line on Monday night; 2) Since Monday night time is very limited, I am thinking on Sunday 2-3 Oracle->Gatekeeper hard speed runs, and maybe 2 Gatekeeper->finish normal runs; This is because I want to get as many shots on the following weapons as possible: Praetorian Foil - awarded after Oracle hard Fatebringer - awarded after Templar hard Vision of Confluence - awarded after Atheon normal or hard Etheon's Epilogue - awarded after Atheon normal or hard Anybody interested in joining me? If not, I probably will give LFG a serious try. Had really good luck with LFG: hooked up with a very good group and went all the way from Oracle to finish. At the Gatekeeper phase we had 4 level 30s and 2 level 29s and did the "2-gates-at-the-same-time" strategy, blew through it on the 4th try because the group has 2 very strong 30s. However, we got stuck on Atheon due to one strong level 30 having to leave, and various issues (some due to glitches, some due to player mistakes) for 1.5 hours, and finally beat it with 5 level 30s and 1 level 29. It is a great feeling to beat hard again, and first time on my hunter. I did not mind the long session as it was great practice for me. I think that I am now confident with most of the roles except for the relic holder. I did get significantly better using relic, but still suck on hard. Got very good loot from this run: hunter raid helmet & gloves that I don't already have so now I have the complete set, 2nd Vex Mythoclast, Etheon's Epilogue & Corrective Measure. Let's go ahead and plan for Monday night raid: 12/01 Monday VoG Hard, tentative start 5pm PT (I may be able to start as early as 4:30pm) 1. Witty 2. Thebb22 3. Open 4. Open 5. Open 6. Open I still have 2 characters with Oracle checkpoint: Titan and Warlock. It would be great if we can at least do 2 Oracle->Gatekeeper runs and 1 full completion. 2 completions would be superb!
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