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Post by Dumien on Feb 23, 2015 14:47:50 GMT -5
Found this on Reddit. Comparison between regular Felwinter's Lie and full auto Felwinter's Lie.
I'm gonna be spending some motes when I get home...
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Post by iw5000 on Feb 23, 2015 15:16:39 GMT -5
How do you do this?
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Post by hebbnh on Feb 23, 2015 15:19:15 GMT -5
Reforge with the Iron Banner vendor -- costs 2 motes per reforge.
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Post by iw5000 on Feb 23, 2015 15:52:17 GMT -5
Oh ok..right. And look for the full auto option?
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Post by TheHawkNY on Feb 23, 2015 16:35:04 GMT -5
Ok looks like I'll be purchasing another one of those to reforge tonight.
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Post by hebbnh on Feb 23, 2015 18:41:53 GMT -5
Rerolled 6 times (only had 12 motes left after the Xur engram lottery the other day) and ended up with a void version with grenadier, hammer forged, and shot package (tighter spread while ADS'd). So basically the pseudo-sniper high-precision variant instead of the high(er) ROF no-ads-required full auto version. Should be fun!
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Post by iw5000 on Feb 23, 2015 19:38:30 GMT -5
I think i am going to leave mine alone.
I have Returned to Sender, Hammer Forged and Range Finder. That's good enough for me.
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Post by hebbnh on Feb 23, 2015 19:55:42 GMT -5
I think i am going to leave mine alone. I have Returned to Sender, Hammer Forged and Range Finder. That's good enough for me. Could always buy a 2nd one and leave your stock one alone.
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Post by iw5000 on Feb 24, 2015 1:08:52 GMT -5
And a second one is what I did!
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Post by mannon on Feb 24, 2015 3:35:53 GMT -5
I don't have the motes to go rerolling for victory so I just farmed enough glimmer to buy two of both the guns. I'll try to stockpile some motes and reforge them next time.
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Post by hebbnh on Feb 24, 2015 8:40:21 GMT -5
I actually ended up buying a third after we glimmer farmed last night. I'm out of motes but the plan is to reroll one of them to try for full auto next time the Iron Banner is up. That way I'll have the stock one for maximum range, the hammer forged/shot package one for tightest spread and best 1HK capability (should be beast for PvP), and a full auto/whatever other perks I get for faster ROF that might be better suited for PvE. Then I can compare all 3 and see what tends to work better across different situations. I'm kind of a noob when it comes to shotguns in this game.
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Post by TheHawkNY on Feb 24, 2015 10:26:58 GMT -5
I rerolled until I got a variant with Full Auto. It took me way too many tries, so I stopped once I received it, even though the other perks on it are bad (Grenadier, Quickdraw/Perfect Balance/Lightweight).
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Post by TheHawkNY on Feb 24, 2015 10:27:39 GMT -5
Oh, and Solar damage, to compliment the variant that I didn't reroll, that has Solar damage.
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Post by qupie on Feb 24, 2015 11:12:05 GMT -5
Grenadier is not THAT bad in general, and lightweight is actually pretty good on a shotgun...
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Post by markopolo on Feb 24, 2015 11:29:11 GMT -5
How to make Felwinter's Lie a beast 1. Make it's range longer than 2" after the end of its barrel. 2. Irrelevant 3. 4. F$$k it; it's a shotgun and shotguns suck
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Post by TheHawkNY on Feb 24, 2015 11:36:55 GMT -5
markopolo It does have the longest range of any shotgun. qupie I would have liked some range/reload buffs though. Also, for it to not be solar damage.
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Post by markopolo on Feb 24, 2015 11:38:41 GMT -5
markopolo It does have the longest range of any shotgun. So... instead of $hitpisspoor range, it has just $hitpiss range?
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Post by TheHawkNY on Feb 24, 2015 11:39:55 GMT -5
I guess we'll see once I'm done leveling it. Also, the double damage that it's about to get will be nice.
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Post by markopolo on Feb 24, 2015 11:43:19 GMT -5
I guess we'll see once I'm done leveling it. Also, the double damage that it's about to get will be nice. I'd take double range over double damage 99 times out of 10. But maybe the damage boost will be nice.
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Post by mannon on Feb 24, 2015 13:32:11 GMT -5
The damage will help extend range as well, at least in PvE. Although since they are giving shotguns a PvE only damage buff I'm not sure why not give them better PvE range as well.
I think it would be nice if they would add a mod slot to all weapons and call it a training limiter or something. This wouldn't be an optional mod, it would be off by default in PvE and on by default in PvP, but hovering over it would show you the stat changes.
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Post by Dumien on Feb 24, 2015 15:59:26 GMT -5
Guys....I unlocked full auto... oh man. This gun.
THIS GUN.
I can't wait to see it with the buff.
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Post by wings on Feb 24, 2015 21:07:22 GMT -5
Didn't bother with full auto as I'm keeping my Motes for re-rolling the auto rifle and machine gun for the next Iron Banner. Could do with a collection of Jolder Hammers. But I hear random reward drops in Iron Banner were the purchasable items from the previous Iron Banner events so I can try my luck next time if need be. Also, I wonder how the Felwinter's Lie will fare in the upcoming patch.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Feb 25, 2015 11:41:54 GMT -5
Didn't bother with full auto as I'm keeping my Motes for re-rolling the auto rifle and machine gun for the next Iron Banner. Could do with a collection of Jolder Hammers. But I hear random reward drops in Iron Banner were the purchasable items from the previous Iron Banner events so I can try my luck next time if need be. Also, I wonder how the Felwinter's Lie will fare in the upcoming patch. It should be superb in PvE, and still pretty good in PvP, one of the best IB weapons.
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Post by TheHawkNY on Feb 25, 2015 11:58:01 GMT -5
Wait...the auto rifle? It's terrible, I assure you.
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Post by wings on Feb 25, 2015 12:38:36 GMT -5
Didn't bother with full auto as I'm keeping my Motes for re-rolling the auto rifle and machine gun for the next Iron Banner. Could do with a collection of Jolder Hammers. But I hear random reward drops in Iron Banner were the purchasable items from the previous Iron Banner events so I can try my luck next time if need be. Also, I wonder how the Felwinter's Lie will fare in the upcoming patch. It should be superb in PvE, and still pretty good in PvP, one of the best IB weapons. I'm guessing you mean Jolder's Hammer. Looks like more Motes for re-rolling them instead of Silimar's Wrath, and machine guns are usually my favourite weapons in shooters anyway.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Feb 25, 2015 14:16:03 GMT -5
I meant to refer to the shotty, sorry for the confusion. My 300 attack Jolder's hammer with mediocre perks is still awesome in Iron Banner, lowest on my re-roll priorities.
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Post by iw5000 on Feb 25, 2015 18:10:24 GMT -5
I meant to refer to the shotty, sorry for the confusion. My 300 attack Jolder's hammer with mediocre perks is still awesome in Iron Banner, lowest on my re-roll priorities. Agree. Jolder's Hammer is the best Crucible LMG. Easy call to make., I also bought a second Feltwinter's shotgun. On my second one, i blew through like 40+ motes of light, and with three left, got the 'full auto' roll i was looking for. Just leveled it up last night, but have yet to use it.
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Post by hebbnh on Feb 27, 2015 13:26:27 GMT -5
So, my Grenadier/Hammer Forged/Shot Package Felwinter's Lie is leveled up. This thing wrecks Crucible. Wrecks. Basically, if you ADS and hit an enemy at any kind of reasonable shotgun range, that enemy dies. Always, every time. I can't even tell you how many times last night I was in a shotty fight where we both fired one shot at almost the same time, but I was left with 1/4 health while the opponent was dead. It's fantastic. "But Hebb," you say, "I rerolled mine for Full Auto for PvE purposes." (Or, alternatively, "I didn't buy Felwinter's Lie and feel like a dumb dumb!") "How can I join in the 1SK fun?" I'm so glad you asked! Simply head to the Vanguard Quartermaster equipped with 150 marks and 1 Vanguard Commendation, and buy yourself a shiny new Secret Handshake that just so happens to include Arc damage, Accurized Ballistics, Grenadier, Hammer Forged, and Shot Package. It's not quite as good as FL, but it's as close as you can get without all that RNG hassle. Found Verdict is still pretty damn good too.
I'm going to work on leveling my stock Felwinter's Lie next (Return to Sender/Hammer Forged/Rangefinder) and report back with how it compares. I'm guessing better range with less 1SK potential due to the higher pellet spread as compared to shot package. We shall see.
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Post by iw5000 on Feb 27, 2015 13:52:22 GMT -5
It does one shot kill a lot of people in Crucible. I have tried it a bunch too, while doing some 'get 10 caps' bounties.
Crucible is kind of dumb now. Just a constant sound of "POP...POP....POP....POP' going off, as people run shotties all over the place, while also doing slide moves.
Dumb game.
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Post by hebbnh on Feb 27, 2015 14:01:54 GMT -5
It does one shot kill a lot of people in Crucible. I have tried it a bunch too, while doing some 'get 10 caps' bounties. Crucible is kind of dumb now. Just a constant sound of "POP...POP....POP....POP' going off, as people run shotties all over the place, while also doing slide moves. Dumb game. What perks did you get on yours?
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