|
Post by LoE Impact on Mar 1, 2015 11:10:28 GMT -5
Might seem like a stupid question, but on reddit a guy (and many others) posted about some stuff that was data mined from Destiny. So how are they able to data mine that information but can't get raw weapon stats or damage calculations?
|
|
mannon
True Bro
wordy bastard PSN:mannonc Steam:mannonc XB:BADmannon
Posts: 15,371
|
Post by mannon on Mar 1, 2015 14:46:45 GMT -5
Damage calculations would only be available if they are done in scripts and those scripts could be mined and interpreted. Most likely the calculations aren't even in scripts but in the code, which we don't have access to.
|
|
|
Post by GodMars on Mar 1, 2015 15:19:59 GMT -5
|
|
markopolo
True Bro
Once a LMG Camper, Then a Voidlock, Now a Lexington 25-8-366 Runner
Posts: 5,567
|
Post by markopolo on Mar 1, 2015 19:35:53 GMT -5
My limited understanding is that they have created the names and the types of weapons/armour/whatever, but will imput the damages/stats/whatever later.
So, they create a skeleton and wait until later to shove the guts in.
|
|
|
Post by iw5000 on Mar 2, 2015 7:30:55 GMT -5
from Reddit
"According to this post to predict 8 weeks in advance would take 32 hours of work. All of which has to be done in the 48 hours per week that Xur is in the tower. It's hard to see anyone posting data for more than 2-3 weeks ahead of time like we are seeing already."
"The way they have Xur programmed he's given his entire list for weeks on at once, and they unlock it week by week. The advantages for this is Xur can be deployed at any time instantly. This also means Xur is pretty much set in stone on a week to week basis unless a patch comes out to change it. I wouldn't say it is RNG but I wouldn't say its changed week to week to screw players over.""
"Automatization means one employee working on it. It's a smart choice, that gives them both some amount of control, and they can just ignore it if they don't feel it needs attention."
"Of course they are created in advance. It's not like Xur shows up in the tower and just hangs out until the first person talks to him, then the game rolls and decides what he is going to sell. People need to 100% understand your statement. Just because his inventory is predetermined prior to his arrival does not necessarily mean that it is being decided by someone. For the record, I am firmly in the "Weighted - RNG" camp."
"To patch it they would have to literally change the baked in code in the game and the fundamental way that Xur works, doubtful they will patch it since we can't buy anything ahead of time, just see what he will be selling'
"It's not a violation of any TOU or DMCA. This data is sent over the wire and you are capturing the packets via a PC or device and analyzing it before it reaches your console. Typically vendors implement encryption to avoid this kind of packet analysis. It specifically doesn't break TOU's as there is zero modifications needed to the console to read this open data."
"And to answer ur question the guy that's been making predictions says y.a.s. Will be sold next week along with st. 14"
|
|
bradman
True Bro
token old guy
Posts: 1,178
|
Post by bradman on Mar 2, 2015 9:38:57 GMT -5
What is a y.a.s.? Or a st. 14"?
|
|
wings
True Bro
Posts: 3,776
|
Post by wings on Mar 2, 2015 9:45:04 GMT -5
What is a y.a.s.? Or a st. 14"? No idea on yas but a st. 14 is the Helm of Saint-14.
|
|
markopolo
True Bro
Once a LMG Camper, Then a Voidlock, Now a Lexington 25-8-366 Runner
Posts: 5,567
|
Post by markopolo on Mar 2, 2015 9:53:49 GMT -5
What is a y.a.s.? Or a st. 14"? No idea on yas but a st. 14 is the Helm of Saint-14. By the powers of google, my guess is the Young Ahamkara's Spine
|
|
|
Post by iw5000 on Mar 2, 2015 11:44:32 GMT -5
correct.
HUnter - Young Ahamkara's Spine Titan - Helm of Saint 14
Bungie developers could go in and change it up. But I suppose it makes no difference at this point. These Reddit people saw the files. It's out. The information is already there, with the items already lined up. At this point, there's probably no point to even going and changing things up. Proves nothing really.
|
|
markopolo
True Bro
Once a LMG Camper, Then a Voidlock, Now a Lexington 25-8-366 Runner
Posts: 5,567
|
Post by markopolo on Mar 2, 2015 12:18:33 GMT -5
The Ahamkara is such a great beast... spine, claws, skull...
I fully expect Comet to give us the Pelvis of the Ahamkara to make us twerk when dancing
|
|
bradman
True Bro
token old guy
Posts: 1,178
|
Post by bradman on Mar 2, 2015 12:52:14 GMT -5
More dance moves would be fantastic. Microtransaction DLC steps.
|
|
markopolo
True Bro
Once a LMG Camper, Then a Voidlock, Now a Lexington 25-8-366 Runner
Posts: 5,567
|
Post by markopolo on Mar 2, 2015 12:53:57 GMT -5
More dance moves would be fantastic. Microtransaction DLC steps. Holla
|
|
Dumien
True Bro
Black Market Trader
No engrams. Only disappointment.
Posts: 3,292
|
Post by Dumien on Mar 2, 2015 18:05:21 GMT -5
Good chance to take some notes from Dark souls on beloved and infamous character emotes.
|
|
mannon
True Bro
wordy bastard PSN:mannonc Steam:mannonc XB:BADmannon
Posts: 15,371
|
Post by mannon on Mar 2, 2015 18:38:47 GMT -5
Does it bother anyone else that point is not Up on the Dpad? I guess it's in the slightly more convenient location, but the logic of pushing up to point forward is so ingrained in my brain I almost always get mixed up when trying to wave. ;3
I'd love to have a deeper set of emotes. Tap for one, hold for another, maybe double tap for even a third set. How about emotes that are ADS specific like the ones on the bikes. In fact, just give me those emotes while I'm ADS. That'd be cool.
Maybe there should even be different emotes while crouching... though I kinda like sliding into a cap point and going strait into a dance, just because... and to peek around corners. Sitting is probably objectively better than dancing, though.
|
|
wings
True Bro
Posts: 3,776
|
Post by wings on Mar 3, 2015 6:39:30 GMT -5
I think they are useless. I have always wantd to activate a synthesis pack using the d-pad because menu lag can be horrific on last gen.
|
|
mannon
True Bro
wordy bastard PSN:mannonc Steam:mannonc XB:BADmannon
Posts: 15,371
|
Post by mannon on Mar 3, 2015 10:41:10 GMT -5
I think consumables should be an option on the screen when you bring up your ghost.
|
|
markopolo
True Bro
Once a LMG Camper, Then a Voidlock, Now a Lexington 25-8-366 Runner
Posts: 5,567
|
Post by markopolo on Mar 3, 2015 11:07:59 GMT -5
I think emotes should be social area specific, and then more added to the ads, shoot, melee, and grenade buttons... they're not being used so why not. I feel emotes should be removed in mission, strike, raid, or nightfall and allow for more specific battle options: up pops an ammo pack, left allows you to quick switch to another alternate primary weapon, right to your special weapon alternate, and down to your heavy weapon alternate (all without losing ammo) However, you are not allowed to access any other weapons so add to the challenge... 6 weapons is all you can access to Pick6 (including only having 1 exotic weapons in rotation) I know this won't be popular... whatevz. Particularly I know Dumien communicates via sign language, so my suggestion might hurt his feelings
|
|
dm
True Bro
Posts: 134
|
Post by dm on Mar 3, 2015 11:10:10 GMT -5
It seems odd to me that they don't use the ps4 track pad for anything. You could create a few shortcuts with that.
|
|
markopolo
True Bro
Once a LMG Camper, Then a Voidlock, Now a Lexington 25-8-366 Runner
Posts: 5,567
|
Post by markopolo on Mar 3, 2015 11:12:02 GMT -5
It seems odd to me that they don't use the ps4 track pad for anything. You could create a few shortcuts with that. I think because Xbox/LastGenrz would feel even more left out. PeeEss4erz would be dancing around with out Monte Carlos and Hawkmoons doing PS4 exclusive moves that would hurt feelings cross platforms
|
|
dm
True Bro
Posts: 134
|
Post by dm on Mar 3, 2015 11:22:26 GMT -5
|
|
mannon
True Bro
wordy bastard PSN:mannonc Steam:mannonc XB:BADmannon
Posts: 15,371
|
Post by mannon on Mar 3, 2015 13:07:05 GMT -5
They could at least add support for using the track pad to move the cursor in the screens like inventory, ect. I don't get that.
Personally I'd like to have consumables available, but I'd rather not change the current emotes. I'd prefer to add too what we have by putting the consumables on the ghost screen. Another option I've seen suggested is when you run dry on ammo to hold the reload button to use a synth for that weapon type. That seems pretty intuitive to me and could easily have a screen prompt. "Out of ammo, Hold [button] to use ammo synthesis."
|
|