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Post by wittyscorpion on Oct 5, 2015 17:38:40 GMT -5
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Post by wittyscorpion on Oct 5, 2015 17:40:16 GMT -5
My initial reaction: this is sweet! I can pick the emotes I like instead of being forced to purchase all 18 (Titan male one looks sweet, sprinkler not so much). Can't use them all anyway, since guardians can't change gender once born EDIT: I misunderstood. These are emotes, not dance moves (which remain to be only puchasable thru DLC).
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Post by qupie on Oct 6, 2015 3:58:00 GMT -5
This also has the opportunity to make actual content DLC cheaper, or more bang for your buck. Whether they will actually put the money gained by these micro transactions into the game, is just guesswork. But it is nice to dream isn't it.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Oct 6, 2015 5:27:30 GMT -5
This also has the opportunity to make actual content DLC cheaper, or more bang for your buck. Whether they will actually put the money gained by these micro transactions into the game, is just guesswork. But it is nice to dream isn't it. There are some concrete info on this front. 1) From the above official Bungie announcement: Sounds to me that they plan to at least invest part of the microtransation revenue into adding small bits of content like "events". 2) From Kotaku reveal: kotaku.com/sources-destiny-will-get-paid-cosmetic-dlc-and-free-ne-1734800399
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Post by qupie on Oct 6, 2015 5:32:04 GMT -5
I don't know how I feel about absolutely free DLC yet, as little emotes sold might result in less content, which is a pretty bad thing imho.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Oct 6, 2015 5:33:24 GMT -5
If Kotaku's "source" is accurate: we can expect free content on a regular basis, but no paid DLCs (which pretty much means no more raids).
I have a mixed feelings about it:
1) free and regular content refresh would be great;
2) however, without big attractions of raids as an anchor for loot drops and reasons to earn better loot, I wonder whether the game can have lasting appeal beyond 3 months.
We will have to see. Plan to play Halo 5 and BLOP 3 anyway, so not having to sink too much time into Destiny is not a bad thing.
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Post by hebbnh on Oct 6, 2015 8:40:31 GMT -5
I don't see how that means no more raids. They're the best part of the game and the biggest draw for the hardcore playerbase. Like you said, with no raids, there's no lasting appeal. No lasting appeal means nobody's throwing money at the screen for new emotes, which means they're not making the money they should be making. There will be raids. I wouldn't expect them as often as other PvE events, new missions, etc. but I'd be shocked if we're not getting a new raid every 6 months at a minimum.
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Post by wings on Oct 6, 2015 9:51:02 GMT -5
Let's hope it doesn't follow the same path as COD then.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Oct 6, 2015 10:26:24 GMT -5
Did not dare ro hope that raid similar to VoG or Oryx quality can be offeres for free, simpky relyong on revenue stream from cosmetic items, since I am ready to play for DLCs that have raids.
If that did happen though, I would be super happy indeed.
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Post by markopolo on Oct 6, 2015 23:09:20 GMT -5
My body is ready.
I took out a 4th mortgage to throw more money at the screen.
My body is ready.
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Post by Dumien on Oct 7, 2015 10:25:13 GMT -5
I am alright with this. I don't need constant big raids on the horizon and I'm willing to support developers with micro transactions if I like their game. I'm in love with this game and even when I do drop some money on cosmetics...this is basically a promise by them that I will be dropping less money than I did in Y1.
Think about it this way:
Crota raid wasn't a raid. It was a strike with new rules attached.
Prison of elders was a procedurally generated strike.
With TTK weare getting these special rule bosses that previously defined raid bosses...except we are getting them outside of raids... think court of Oryx and some story mode bosses. The heroic strike playlist is now invoking procedural generation similar to PoE by having multiple possible versions of the same strike. They haven't even added all the old raids to the rotation yet!
Also, I feel there is alot of compelling stuff they can do with just story mode level content now. Last night I was super tired and appeared offline. I spend a full hour with no deaths and 300+ kills on the heroic story mission getting the secret FWC ghost with all 3 memories. I played it super careful and in hindsight I must have roleplayed it like an adventure. That is one mission and proof to me that they can release solid, standalone content.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Oct 8, 2015 17:51:35 GMT -5
This week's BWU provided a little more insights on this: Sounds to me that this is a dedicated team that is separate from the feature development teams. If that's the case, I don't expect Raid is part of their charter. Possibilities from this team probably include (pure speculation): 1) More Court of Oryx bosses; 2) More quests consisted of modified versions of existing story/strike missions and public space; 3) New types of public events, similar to the ones we had from TDB, HoW, and TTK; 4) More gears as attractive loot to earn; etc. If there are any new raid(s) before Destiny 2 (which I doubt, because it took them the entire time to last year's launch to make VoG and probably most of CE, and another entire year to make King's Fall), it most likely will be packaged as a paid DLC. However, more likely I think that they will just push that into Y3 (In other words: if they do have time to make 2+ raids before Fall 2016, they would rather release both in Y3 instead of making 1 available before Destiny 2.0). Like Dumien said above, I am OK with such arrangements, because TTK proved that Bungie is capable of introducing interesting, lightweight content that incorporate raid components (boss fights in Court of Oryx, jumping puzzles in story missions, Dark Soul moments from Fear's Embrace, etc)
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Post by qupie on Oct 9, 2015 3:32:32 GMT -5
This is not going to be a popular thought, but I really hope they create some minor raids as well. Everybody is complaining about Crota, and while true, it wasn't as glorious as the vault of glass, there is allot of bandwagon complaining imho. I had allot of fun there. And if they would simply hammer out the cheeses/glitches fast, it would have been fine. The abyss and bridge sections were awesome imho, they simply should have made it require 3+ members alive to finish or something comparable. It takes at least twice as long to complete as a strike, and has multiple puzzles/encounters (assuming no cheese). I would even pay for those, even knowing they will not be as awesome as kings fall or VoG.
Being in a group of 6 and having a common goal is simply too much fun. And no, imho, it didn't look like a strike at all! I would pay again for a raid like Crota's end.
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Post by wings on Oct 9, 2015 8:29:11 GMT -5
Crota raid wasn't a raid. It was a strike with new rules attached. What's the difference between a strike and a raid to you? I've seen definitions focus on number of participants but I always thought mechanics were a critical feature. Basically fighting Qodron or Skolas in the Prison of Elders feels more of a 'raid' to me than killing Crota because I'm on rocket duty.
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Post by markopolo on Oct 12, 2015 8:11:38 GMT -5
I'd like patrols to be bigger than 3; if only for CoO 6 would be fun
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Post by wittyscorpion on Oct 12, 2015 14:26:23 GMT -5
Preview of emotes that are coming in tomorrow, from YouTubers who got a preview package from Bungie (each appears to have a different set. I went ahead and put the starting marker on when the emotes are shown so you don't have to watch the other crap if you don't want to):
Man, I can see players burning so much cash on these...
Datto:
Planet Destiny:
MoreConsole:
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Post by wittyscorpion on Oct 12, 2015 14:36:30 GMT -5
Notes:
1) Tomorrow's patch contains 18 total emotes; 2) Every guardian will get free "sliver" injected into your account so you can get a few without spending any money; 3) My favorite ones so far: "Sorrow", "Slow Clap" and "Bow" (very Chinese). Will get these for sure.
Bros, which ones do you like?
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Post by hebbnh on Oct 12, 2015 14:54:09 GMT -5
Sorrow, slow cap, bow, bring it on, enthusiastic (aka the Carlton), scared/cower, evil scheme... Great, looks like I'll be throwing some money at the screen tomorrow.
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Post by markopolo on Oct 12, 2015 16:21:44 GMT -5
Sorrow is awesome as is the slow bow
Datto's comment about warlock was uncalled for; I unsubscribed because of that
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Post by wittyscorpion on Oct 12, 2015 16:28:10 GMT -5
SorNrow is awesome as is the slow bow Datto's comment about warlock was uncalled for; I unsubscribed because of that Marko: you are too attached to Warlock man, time to see other people
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Post by markopolo on Oct 12, 2015 16:42:58 GMT -5
SorNrow is awesome as is the slow bow Datto's comment about warlock was uncalled for; I unsubscribed because of that Marko: you are too attacked to Warlock man, time to see other people Everyone I play with is a hunter or titan.., why buy a cow when I got the milkman bringing me milk? Besides, Since mannon stopped playing, I'm the only reliable selfrezzer in our crew on the ps4.., who will save us from wipes if I wasn't there? Besides, titans and hunters have weapons... We MeisterRaceBstPnylockz are the weapon
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Post by markopolo on Oct 12, 2015 16:45:02 GMT -5
But back on topic, I hope there will be more dance moves
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Post by qupie on Oct 13, 2015 7:50:32 GMT -5
Besides, Since mannon stopped playing, I'm the only reliable non-orb producer in our crew on the ps4.., who will not create orbs if I wasn't there? Fixed that for you Really, wiping once in a while is no big deal. Get those orbs flowing and you will wipe even less. Fireborn is way way way overvalued, and IF you really need selfres, you are often in a situation a single res will still mean nothing, and you will simply die. But like you said, back on topic: Me sast week: Heh, money for emotes? I don't care about that shit. Good move Bungie, because other, stupid people will probably feed you free money. Me after seeing videos: gosh darn golly gee whiz, I want at least 7 of those... Touche Bungie, Touche.
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Post by bradman on Oct 13, 2015 10:57:38 GMT -5
Ol' sizzle fingers makes plenty of orbs, I find.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Oct 13, 2015 13:24:04 GMT -5
www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2015/10/13/purchasing-all-of-destiny_1920_s-18-emotes-will-cost-you-about-35.aspxLegendary emotes: 500 sliver (Slow Clap and Enthusiastic) Rare emotes: 200 silver (the rest) Free sliver give away from Bungie: 400 silver Sliver costs: 500 Silver - $4.99 1,100 Silver - $9.99 2,300 Silver - $19.99 Minimal cost to get all 18: $35. I am getting the "Bow" and "Sorrow" using my free silver and that's it. I'll then sit back and enjoy the free content funded by many a fans throwing their money at the screen (I forecast > 50% of the active player base will spend real money), this is an economy I like
Appendix, all the emotes from a female character (I'll have to say most of them don't look good on female):
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Post by blackbarney on Oct 13, 2015 15:59:44 GMT -5
Enthusiastic dance is fantastic and should be called White Dance. No way I'm spending five bucks on that tho.
The Slow Clap is awful. It looks right out from Saint's Row.... actually that goes for a bunch of these.
THe Formal Bow is pretty cool.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Oct 13, 2015 18:31:13 GMT -5
Bros, how many of you have done this:
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Post by malgato on Oct 13, 2015 23:34:29 GMT -5
I did it. I threw money at the screen. I confess.
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Post by markopolo on Oct 14, 2015 0:30:24 GMT -5
I resisted the urge as I only had coins in my wallet
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Post by markopolo on Oct 14, 2015 0:35:18 GMT -5
Fixed that for you Really, wiping once in a while is no big deal. Get those orbs flowing and you will wipe even less. Fireborn is way way way overvalued, and IF you really need selfres, you are often in a situation a single res will still mean nothing, and you will simply die. 3 things 1) I fuggin HATE wiping. Don't care if it's a NF, weekly, whatever. Almost threw my controller at my tv when we wiped on a skolas run when I popped my super at 1 sec. 2) Shit goes sideways pretty quick round here.... Saved many a mission from wiping by keeping my super saved 3) but when I go stormcaller, it's the electroboogie all mission long As for the emotes: bought the bring it on and the throat cutter. I was hoping for a lot more dance moved
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