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Post by moon on Dec 4, 2015 8:57:00 GMT -5
Cool, it's the only weapon I've found that doesn't become a pea shooter suppressed. Yup. I always one-burst people with the silenced Dredge at short to medium range, and have had my fair share of the same at long range. I do find in certain long range engagements that sometimes I'll hit the enemy when he/she is strafing, so I'll need a second burst to dispatch them. With that said, my second go-to LMG is a suppressed Dingo. With rapid fire at CQB to medium ranges, it still melts people like nobody's business. I've been having great success (and fun) with even a non rapid firing suppressed Dingo, as long as I'm able to get the drop on enemy personnel in head-to-head scenarios. On all my LMG's (I pretty much stick to the Dingo and Dredge), I run a stock and silencer. I do have one class with the Varix, for counter-sniper type situations.
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Post by exxtrooper on Feb 22, 2016 11:31:10 GMT -5
So does the 75% decrease in idle sway help the Gorgon enough to be usable again?
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Post by TheHawkNY on Feb 22, 2016 15:54:25 GMT -5
So does the 75% decrease in idle sway help the Gorgon enough to be usable again? It still has that 0.55 second ADS time, so you can't really move around, but if you're not moving, it works.
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Post by bradman on Feb 22, 2016 17:53:41 GMT -5
So does the 75% decrease in idle sway help the Gorgon enough to be usable again? It still has that 0.55 second ADS time, so you can't really move around, but if you're not moving, it works. It also needs ex-mags, rapid fire and stock to not be terrible.
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Post by banana on Feb 23, 2016 10:01:05 GMT -5
It still has that 0.55 second ADS time, so you can't really move around, but if you're not moving, it works. It also needs ex-mags, rapid fire and stock to not be terrible. It doesn't need rapid fire at all. If you have the extra points though I would go for it. Quickdraw and stock are the necessary ones
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Post by bradman on Feb 23, 2016 11:20:03 GMT -5
It also needs ex-mags, rapid fire and stock to not be terrible. It doesn't need rapid fire at all. If you have the extra points though I would go for it. Quickdraw and stock are the necessary ones Without rapid fire it's a bad BRM, imho.
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Post by TheHawkNY on Feb 23, 2016 14:45:08 GMT -5
It doesn't need rapid fire at all. If you have the extra points though I would go for it. Quickdraw and stock are the necessary ones Without rapid fire it's a bad BRM, imho. And with?
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Post by bradman on Feb 23, 2016 16:45:50 GMT -5
I'd still rather use the BRM,Dingo,or Dredge.
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Post by exxtrooper on May 13, 2016 20:55:05 GMT -5
So how good is the Varix 3 changes for the LMGs? Havent tried it on Gorgon yet but i'd like to try it out.
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Post by exxtrooper on Dec 28, 2016 21:48:09 GMT -5
Are the LMGs in IW any good? Are there any at all?
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Post by illram on Dec 29, 2016 3:04:50 GMT -5
The RAW is very good. All the other LMG's are sort of just filler.
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Post by bradman on Dec 29, 2016 10:15:28 GMT -5
I need to try the one they gave out for free yesterday.
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Post by exxtrooper on Dec 31, 2016 10:43:52 GMT -5
The RAW is very good. All the other LMG's are sort of just filler. How good is the RAW, and is it comparable to something like the LMGS in BO3?
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Post by moon on Dec 31, 2016 12:22:31 GMT -5
The RAW is very good. All the other LMG's are sort of just filler. How good is the RAW, and is it comparable to something like the LMGS in BO3? I find the RAW to be a very powerful weapon, and would rank it as a top tier weapon. In fact, it's my most used gun - I switch between the Epic Liberty and the Legendary Headhunter (with reduced recoil). The RAW is a three-shot kill in practically every gunfight, and even when suppressed, I find myself making quick work of enemies at all but the longest range engagements. The nerf to the gun did introduce some noticeable recoil, but the grip helps. The RAW Headhunter feels like the pre-nerf version of the gun. Even without a grip, the RAW still feels super accurate at mid to long range. Think of the RAW as a slightly slower firing BRM from BO3 (517 RPM v. 491 RPM), with an easier to control recoil pattern. As with all laser weapons, the ammunition in the magazine automatically replenishes from your store (equipping Fusion Mag will give you unlimited ammo, in essence). Quickdraw will reduce your ADS time from .30 to .15, and the Man at Arms trait for the Merc rig will practically give you SMG movement speeds. I've always been the type to run Stalker or Stock on my LMG's (my favorite weapon type in CoD; SMGs are my second favorite), but in this game, I tend to jumpshot a great deal, so I can live with the slower ADS-strafe speed. From what I have been seeing on Reddit, it is looking as though Infinity Ward will be introducing the Ameli at some point, which should be interesting. I wish they brought back any of the LMGs from MW2 and/or MW3. The L86 would be a most welcome addition. Hell, I would love to have the RPD or the M60, too.
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Post by godzilla on Dec 31, 2016 12:26:28 GMT -5
The RAW is very good. All the other LMG's are sort of just filler. How good is the RAW, and is it comparable to something like the LMGS in BO3? The RAW is one of the best weapons in the game, and personally my favorite weapon. It's a 3HK laser beam across nearly every range that you'll see in IW even when silenced. And since Infinity Ward forgot to balance attachments per weapon class, Quickdraw and Stock paired with Man-at-Arms (Lightweight) means you have traditional SMG handling characteristics. The only complaint I have is that there's no RAW nuke variant.
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Post by kylet357 on Jan 1, 2017 4:32:31 GMT -5
To put it simply, the RAW is the only good LMG in the game. Only one with a three shot kill.
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Post by illram on Jan 1, 2017 4:43:41 GMT -5
The Titan Scout (epic) is not bad. Got it today. I'd still rather use a RAW but the Scout is basically a laser beam with a free Trojan sight.
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Post by haoz on Jan 2, 2017 13:05:29 GMT -5
Name an LMG in IW that's good at long range. (protip: you can't)
All of them have a bit too much recoil. Very strong at medium range though.
I do think it's fair to leave long-range exclusively to snipers, since they're weak overall.
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Post by exxtrooper on Jan 5, 2017 9:44:58 GMT -5
Name an LMG in IW that's good at long range. (protip: you can't) All of them have a bit too much recoil. Very strong at medium range though. I do think it's fair to leave long-range exclusively to snipers, since they're weak overall. COD4 = RPD because 2 shot at any range + controlling recoil + tap firing is a thing MW2 = Same as COD4 MW3 = L86 LSW with thermal had next to no recoil because of some kind of glitch? Dont know whether it was intentional but it had next to no recoil with thermal CoD: Ghosts = m27-iar with thermal and silencer was a long range monster and the main reason a lot of people hated that game Infinite Warfare = Haven't played it enough Sitting in an obscure spot on the map in ground war behind teammates picking off people at long range to get a 4.00+ KD (without the sense of achievement of course) has literally been playstyle since MW3. If there aren't any LMGs that are good at long range then what the fuck have I been doing for the last 5 years?
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Post by haoz on Jan 5, 2017 10:40:11 GMT -5
Name an LMG in IW that's good at long range. (protip: you can't) All of them have a bit too much recoil. Very strong at medium range though. I do think it's fair to leave long-range exclusively to snipers, since they're weak overall. COD4 = RPD because 2 shot at any range + controlling recoil + tap firing is a thing MW2 = Same as COD4 MW3 = L86 LSW with thermal had next to no recoil because of some kind of glitch? Dont know whether it was intentional but it had next to no recoil with thermal CoD: Ghosts = m27-iar with thermal and silencer was a long range monster and the main reason a lot of people hated that game Infinite Warfare = Haven't played it enough Sitting in an obscure spot on the map in ground war behind teammates picking off people at long range to get a 4.00+ KD (without the sense of achievement of course) has literally been playstyle since MW3. If there aren't any LMGs that are good at long range then what the Foxtrot have I been doing for the last 5 years? Well, I did say "name an LMG in IW."
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Post by exxtrooper on Jan 6, 2017 11:26:05 GMT -5
COD4 = RPD because 2 shot at any range + controlling recoil + tap firing is a thing MW2 = Same as COD4 MW3 = L86 LSW with thermal had next to no recoil because of some kind of glitch? Dont know whether it was intentional but it had next to no recoil with thermal CoD: Ghosts = m27-iar with thermal and silencer was a long range monster and the main reason a lot of people hated that game Infinite Warfare = Haven't played it enough Sitting in an obscure spot on the map in ground war behind teammates picking off people at long range to get a 4.00+ KD (without the sense of achievement of course) has literally been playstyle since MW3. If there aren't any LMGs that are good at long range then what the Foxtrot have I been doing for the last 5 years? Well, I did say "name an LMG in IW." Misread it as a infinity ward game im a dumbass. except in those first three there were already godlike ars/smgs that you could pick that still had exceptional ttk but didnt slow you down or require you to preads every fight you went into Go eat cheese.
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Post by confuzzled on Jan 6, 2017 11:30:59 GMT -5
The Titan Warden is all but OP in Touch Football. Outclasses the RAW easily. The 100round clip and auto-generating ammo is a game changer. Imagine never ever having to reload or run out of ammo.
It comes with a movement speed bonus and hardline as well. This gun is on par with or just second to the NV4 in Touch Football game modes. Stack it with hardline as perk 2 for easy score streaks.
Elo, quickdraw, suppressor and if you can spare the point grip.
Ghost, hardline, dead silence...
I'll drop DS and run Blind eye sometimes when playing solo...
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Post by haoz on Jan 6, 2017 17:22:26 GMT -5
Any Titan is OP in HC. Same firerate as NV4, more range. You don't even need the improved movement speed of the warden variant if you run Merc with man-at-arms and reactive armor like a real HC tryhard.
The Titan has the lowest recoil out of the three LMGs at this point as well.
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Post by exxtrooper on Jan 7, 2017 9:21:29 GMT -5
Anyone given the mammoth mauler ago? Its supposed to be incredibly similar to the Gorgon from Black Ops 3 (326 RPM 60 damage), I'm contemplating using the salvage if its worth it. link
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Post by banana on Jan 7, 2017 11:38:23 GMT -5
You should get it asap
It's ttk is amazing
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Post by confuzzled on Jan 7, 2017 19:12:23 GMT -5
You should get it asap It's ttk is amazing As opposed to instantaneous from other weapons in the game with that gun, even wit man at arms? I have it, I'm probably just not that skilled but its nothing to write home over. Feels like it takes forever to fire two shots in this game... I'm not sure why the mauler mammoth and raw get so much love. They get outclasses by virtually every assault rifle...
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Post by exxtrooper on Jan 7, 2017 19:21:57 GMT -5
You should get it asap It's ttk is amazing So I've never bought an epic and have just been able to rack up a nice stack off salvage and I'm torn between the flatline NV4 or the Mammoth, could you elaborate on its effectiveness please? Would love to know some hindsight before I pull the 4000 salvage plug. You should get it asap It's ttk is amazing As opposed to instantaneous from other weapons in the game with that gun, even wit man at arms? I have it, I'm probably just not that skilled but its nothing to write home over. Feels like it takes forever to fire two shots in this game... I'm not sure why the mauler mammoth and raw get so much love. They get outclasses by virtually every assault rifle... Could you elaborate? I have the exact opposite experience, whenever I'm not using the RAW I feel at a disadvantage. The 3 hit kill and 4 hit kill at long range makes me feel unstoppable either tap firing down long sight lines or posted up right outside the enemy spawn in ground war frost head glitching. The 3 hit kill feels so smooth, coupled with the incredibly high mag and regen ammo I couldn't feel more at home using it. The NV4 feels incredibly good but whenever I'm posted up behind cover and two people run around the corner I feel like I don't have time to kill them both but I do with the RAW. Thats at least my experience. Even considering a very defensive playstyle, the LMGs coupled with Man-at-arm as well as quickdraw makes them have similar handling to sub machine guns, which is one of the reasons I simply cant put it down. I'd show all my kills with it in the combat record, but you know...
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Post by kylet357 on Jan 7, 2017 21:19:56 GMT -5
L86 LSW with thermal had next to no recoil because of some kind of glitch? Not really a glitch. When they reintroduced gunkick in MW3 as an actual noticeable variable (I never noticed it in other games before), the Thermal sight would negate it because there wouldn't be a model to move when you're aiming through it. This was true for any gun with large amounts of Gunkick. Any of the LMGs, the PM-9, CM-901 and AK-47 (pre-patch), etc. The PKP in MW3 wasn't half bad with Thermal either.
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Post by banana on Jan 8, 2017 15:19:15 GMT -5
You should get it asap It's ttk is amazing So I've never bought an epic and have just been able to rack up a nice stack off salvage and I'm torn between the flatline NV4 or the Mammoth, could you elaborate on its effectiveness please? Would love to know some hindsight before I pull the 4000 salvage plug. As opposed to instantaneous from other weapons in the game with that gun, even wit man at arms? I have it, I'm probably just not that skilled but its nothing to write home over. Feels like it takes forever to fire two shots in this game... I'm not sure why the mauler mammoth and raw get so much love. They get outclasses by virtually every assault rifle... Could you elaborate? I have the exact opposite experience, whenever I'm not using the RAW I feel at a disadvantage. The 3 hit kill and 4 hit kill at long range makes me feel unstoppable either tap firing down long sight lines or posted up right outside the enemy spawn in ground war frost Mind Bulletsing. The 3 hit kill feels so smooth, coupled with the incredibly high mag and regen ammo I couldn't feel more at home using it. The NV4 feels incredibly good but whenever I'm posted up behind cover and two people run around the corner I feel like I don't have time to kill them both but I do with the RAW. Thats at least my experience. Even considering a very defensive playstyle, the LMGs coupled with Man-at-arm as well as quickdraw makes them have similar handling to sub machine guns, which is one of the reasons I simply cant put it down. I'd show all my kills with it in the combat record, but you know... unless you're using a suppressor I would not recommend the flatline. The nv4's range is good enough as it is. If it didn't lower fire rate then I would get it. You can even get away with running qd, stock, suppressor, and rifled barrel on the nv5 The mammoth has a better ttk than any gun in the game besides a one burst r3k kill. You should probably watch some yt videos to see whether it has a ton of recoil or not
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Post by exxtrooper on Mar 14, 2017 17:25:24 GMT -5
So how about that new Modern Warfare Remastered PKM lmg huh?
Is it any good? Do we even know the stats on it.
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