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Post by imrlybord7 on Nov 24, 2015 14:19:27 GMT -5
Hard Wired counters a LOT of shit. If it's very popular then all of that shit will become extremely unreliable and stop being used. But if that shit stops being used then people are free to take off Hard Wired. And then that shit becomes much more reliable. And then Hard Wired becomes useful again. Etcetera. Where does this train stop?
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Post by RageHulkSmash on Nov 24, 2015 14:32:28 GMT -5
Have two of the same class, one with HW and another without. Dilemma solved.
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Post by illram on Nov 24, 2015 14:46:59 GMT -5
It doesn't? It's always been like this. Rock paper scissors meta game is never ending and intentionally cyclical.
My answer is mix up your classes. If you have sixth sense or tracker and you're in a lobby full of hard wired, switch to something else. And vice versa. In my experience though there is never uniformity on the other side, and of course awareness is going to counter the hardwired users unless they are also running dead silence, and UAV is also going to counter it unless they are running ghost and running around. And if you are in a lobby full of ghost/hard wired/dead silence SMG run and gunners... well then that's an interesting lobby!
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Post by Pegasus Actual on Nov 24, 2015 15:04:10 GMT -5
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Post by GodMars on Nov 24, 2015 15:12:35 GMT -5
While it's possible I was just confused, I swear I was hit by a Thermite earlier today while running Hard Wired and took no damage.
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Post by Will on Nov 24, 2015 16:10:40 GMT -5
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Post by Dumien on Nov 24, 2015 16:13:16 GMT -5
I've done a few posts on this before.
The gist is that if you counter something with a perk you must miss out on something. Perk 3 is heavily weighted with counter perks. Tac Mask, DS, Awareness, and engineer are all very strong. I would argue that engineer is just way better than hardwired since it would net you tons of free points...if and only if it were not in the perk 3 slot. Perk 1 has flak jacket, blind eye, and ghost. Flak jacket is a cure-all for alot of deathtraps and blind eye is only useful in non-zero sum game gamemodes.
Hard wired, on the other hand, is by itself in perk 2. The other options are all meant for an aggressive minded class. Cold Blooded has become essentially useless with the nerf to thermal since beta. However, missing out on offensive options are a thing. Fast hand is just a very good perk in general...and while it is outclassed by gung-ho in close/mid range...that perk can never be run seriously because of density of mandatory perks in that slot.
I think this game might have benefited from infinity ward's specialist system. Stacking good perks might feel more rewarding than working harder than ever for a plethora of underwhelming kill streaks.
MOre on this later.
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Post by Pegasus Actual on Nov 24, 2015 16:26:43 GMT -5
This is not a YouTube video.
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Post by fpsdredd on Dec 7, 2015 14:15:00 GMT -5
... the nerf to thermal since beta. I missed this. What happened?
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Post by UrbaneVirtuoso on Dec 7, 2015 16:52:09 GMT -5
Cold-Blooded really does suck now, but at least it's not Ante Up; that's like... Eavesdrop levels of shit if not worse.
Come to think of it, a Hard Wired oversaturation won't be that worrisome given everyone's boner with Fast Hands.
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Post by Will on Dec 7, 2015 23:57:01 GMT -5
Cold-Blooded really does suck now, but at least it's not Ante Up; that's like... Eavesdrop levels of shit if not worse.
Come to think of it, a Hard Wired oversaturation won't be that worrisome given everyone's boner with Fast Hands. And the boner for Fast Hands is tied to the power of the Blackcell... which is tied to the shattiness of Ghost.
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Post by confuzzled on Dec 8, 2015 0:14:01 GMT -5
This is an issue in the hc search meta. So many (better) players run DS now some players swap out awareness for blast suppressor Why run it if everyone has DS?
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Post by Will on Dec 8, 2015 0:23:09 GMT -5
This is an issue in the hc search meta. So many (better) players run DS now some players swap out awareness for blast suppressor Why run it if everyone has DS? Because Awareness cancels out DS, enabling you to hear them at normal volume levels.
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Post by volgon on Dec 8, 2015 0:34:16 GMT -5
This is an issue in the hc search meta. So many (better) players run DS now some players swap out awareness for blast suppressor Why run it if everyone has DS? Because Awareness cancels out DS, enabling you to hear them at normal volume levels. Completely opposite for me; I can't hear people running Dead Silence even with Awareness on and I'm very good at soundwhoring. Reaper is similar: his footsteps are slightly more audible than Dead Silence users but with standard game noise you'll never sound whore him.
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Post by imrlybord7 on Dec 8, 2015 13:15:09 GMT -5
I'm gonna try running Awareness and Blast Suppressor instead of Dead Silence and Blast Suppressor for a bit. Taking off Dead Silence weirds me out in a visceral way. Zoinks.
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Post by UrbaneVirtuoso on Dec 8, 2015 13:17:01 GMT -5
You'd best damn keep your loud ass feet off the ground, in that case.
Then again, you could always have best of both worlds with Reaper. :3
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Post by imrlybord7 on Dec 8, 2015 13:24:51 GMT -5
So if I run Reaper I don't need Dead Silence? If that's really true I feel like they'll nerf his fetstoops.
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Post by UrbaneVirtuoso on Dec 8, 2015 13:28:32 GMT -5
Yeah, I imagine it'll come soon once too many catch on. Reapers are criminally silent even with Awareness looming over them.
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Post by moon on Dec 8, 2015 13:40:44 GMT -5
... the nerf to thermal since beta. I missed this. What happened? He's probably referring to how the thermal sight in this game has zero aim assist. It's super jerky and annoying to use. For me, at least. Dual Band was my crutch MK48 attachment in Black Ops 2.
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Post by fpsdredd on Dec 8, 2015 15:35:50 GMT -5
It was that way in the beta too I thought
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Post by Will on Dec 8, 2015 17:10:38 GMT -5
I'm gonna try running Awareness and Blast Suppressor instead of Dead Silence and Blast Suppressor for a bit. Taking off Dead Silence weirds me out in a visceral way. Zoinks. Wallrunning footsteps are the loudest in the game (it seems like), and Blast Suppressor does not silence those, Dead Silence does. I trained myself to traverse maps without ever double jumping, removing the need for Blast Suppressor. Dead Silence + single jump wallruns is great. Heck you don't even need to jump for most wallruns, just run up to the wall and "fall" onto it.
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Post by imrlybord7 on Dec 8, 2015 18:00:58 GMT -5
@will Wheatley I use thrust jumps to hover around the map and fly/fall around corners. AW was my shit and I'm finding the movement mechanics in BO3 allow for a toned down version of my play style.
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