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Post by nero on Dec 2, 2015 12:20:28 GMT -5
Do you guys think the Weevil is a good gun? Some people seem to think its a top tier weapon, while others hate it. I tried out the Weevil recently and couldn't decide if I liked it or not. Pros: Great iron sights, accuracy, and clip size Cons: Pretty weak at all ranges Here are my stats for the SMGs so far. Weevil is below average in terms of K/D.
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Post by imrlybord7 on Dec 2, 2015 15:03:54 GMT -5
It's easy to use but has a low skill ceiling. Good for bad players, bad for good players.
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Post by GodMars on Dec 2, 2015 15:21:10 GMT -5
Golded it with a 1.82 K/D and 24% accuracy. It was a pleasure to use.
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Post by banana on Dec 2, 2015 15:23:20 GMT -5
stats wise it's a worse kuda with a bigger mag. aka trash tier
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Post by dunsparceflinch on Dec 2, 2015 15:30:14 GMT -5
It's alright, but it needs a little less recoil, a little more range, and/or a 200ms ADS time just to bump it up to good.
My two best games involved a combo of the gorgon and the weevil (mostly used the weevil). They were 2 40+ TDM games back to back.
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Post by nero on Dec 2, 2015 16:49:36 GMT -5
I agree that the weevil is an "easy" gun to use in that the recoil is predictable and the clip size helps prevent reload deaths for those who don't know how to reload cancel. However, if you go up against a semi-decent player that has one of the better guns (like the pharo), youre going to struggle to win gunfights. This gun really shines when playing against bad players since TTK isn't as important in these situations.
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Post by GodMars on Dec 2, 2015 22:57:17 GMT -5
I agree that the weevil is an "easy" gun to use in that the recoil is predictable and the clip size helps prevent reload deaths for those who don't know how to reload cancel. However, if you go up against a semi-decent player that has one of the better guns (like the pharo), youre going to struggle to win gunfights. This gun really shines when playing against bad players since TTK isn't as important in these situations. Does the average CoD player even have a 1 K/D? I'd wager no, not from what I've seen. The Weevil handles those players quite well. Against better players with VMPs and Vespers, well, you keep them at range and use the Weevil's vastly superior accuracy to out-gun them. Against truly great CoD players using VMPs and Vespers you aren't winning those gunfights anyway with pretty much any gun.
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Post by Usagi on Dec 2, 2015 23:04:19 GMT -5
Weevil's vastly superior accuracy I want to live in your fantasy world.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Dec 2, 2015 23:05:54 GMT -5
Buy a PS4 then nerd. Don't forget the XIM.
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Post by GodMars on Dec 2, 2015 23:12:18 GMT -5
Weevil's vastly superior accuracy I want to live in your fantasy world. I've golded all of the SMGs except for the Razorback; I know how these guns handle. Neither the VMP or Vesper handle anywhere near as well.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Dec 2, 2015 23:17:19 GMT -5
With thumbs sticks maybe. Base recoil matters a bit more in PS4topia/xBONERland than in mousey+KBtopia where recoil compensation is much easier and has a lower skill floor. The Vesper is child's play with it's strictly vertical recoil.
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Post by GodMars on Dec 2, 2015 23:21:07 GMT -5
With thumbs sticks maybe. Base recoil matters a bit more in PS4topia/xBONERland than in mousey+KBtopia where recoil compensation is much easier and has a lower skill floor. The Vesper is child's play with it's strictly vertical recoil. Um, what? Never mind we have the recoil plots to look at to see that it's anything but "strictly vertical," but I've used both weapons extensively and know that the Vesper's recoil is all over the bloody place. It handles like a spastic child.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Dec 2, 2015 23:27:48 GMT -5
It handles like a spastic child. No you. I'm saying you only think the Weevil is vastly more accurate than it's peers because you can't recoil compensate as well in PS4 via controller. (Which I guess is a moot point since you're competing with only PS4 players. Was just going off Usagi's fantasy world remark)
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Post by GodMars on Dec 2, 2015 23:29:08 GMT -5
It handles like a spastic child. No you. I'm saying you only think the Weevil is vastly more accurate than it's peers because you can't recoil compensate as well in PS4 via controller. I can look at the recoil plots. The Vesper kicks all over the place; the Weevil kicks only up.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Dec 2, 2015 23:36:40 GMT -5
Not saying the Vesper is more accurate than the Weevil. Not going to argue with you on that front. Just saying "vastly" is a bit of a overstatement. Just a bit. Was just supporting your idea of good players with Vespers/VMPS outgunning Weevils by being skilled at recoil comp: Against truly great CoD players using VMPs and Vespers you aren't winning those gunfights anyway with pretty much any gun. Was responding to Usagi in my earlier statement.
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Post by GodMars on Dec 2, 2015 23:46:42 GMT -5
Not saying the Vesper is more accurate than the Weevil. Not going to argue with you on that front. Just saying "vastly" is a bit of a overstatement. Just a bit. Was just supporting your idea of good players with Vespers/VMPS outgunning Weevils by being skilled at recoil comp: Against truly great CoD players using VMPs and Vespers you aren't winning those gunfights anyway with pretty much any gun. Was responding to Usagi in my earlier statement. Gotcha. Pharo is still best pony, anyway.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Dec 2, 2015 23:54:05 GMT -5
pharo is still best pony, anyway. No you.
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Post by GodMars on Dec 3, 2015 0:00:54 GMT -5
pharo is still best pony, anyway. No you. I'm definitely not best pony.
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Post by snes chalmers on Dec 3, 2015 0:19:12 GMT -5
I've been using it a fair bit more on this prestige, I think I actually like it more than the Kuda, mainly in part due to the magazine.
All I know is that I miss the Pharo.
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Post by Will on Dec 3, 2015 0:44:13 GMT -5
How did you guys turn a Youtube advertisement into a console war?
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Dec 3, 2015 0:51:29 GMT -5
How did you guys turn a Youtube advertisement into a console war? I'm dum as a mouse sometimes. Also don't worry; I didn't give the YT video a view.
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Post by GodMars on Dec 3, 2015 6:56:50 GMT -5
How did you guys turn a Youtube advertisement into a console war? Wait, there's a video? Oh, look at that, there is. Yeah, not watching.
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Post by nero on Dec 3, 2015 18:08:08 GMT -5
So far the Weevil has been slightly below average for me. I guess I should be using the pharo more though lol.
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Post by dunsparceflinch on Dec 4, 2015 0:02:28 GMT -5
After finally trying the Kuda I've come to appreciate the weevil's magazine size much more. Kuda pretty much requires scavenger if you want to go on a decent streak but the weevil can get a decent streak with its 200 total ammo to start.
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Post by Dumien on Dec 4, 2015 3:03:51 GMT -5
Weevil is the quintessential pubstomping gun that we all loved in the various incarnations of the P90.
Look, it comes down to "how many guys do you want to kill before reloading in a lobby full of people you know you are better than?" If the answer is more than 2 and you REEEEEALLY want to use an SMG, then the Weevil is probably your best option.
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Post by Lexapro on Dec 4, 2015 18:22:21 GMT -5
But VMP with extended mags is better than the Weevil with any attachment, so why bother?
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Post by Dumien on Dec 4, 2015 20:21:11 GMT -5
Because sometimes you want ALL the perks.
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Post by tooros on Dec 7, 2015 4:23:14 GMT -5
It's bad for me so far. Great irons, huge mag and amazing recoil mean nothing if you lose every one-on-one.
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Post by -3055- on Dec 7, 2015 16:08:51 GMT -5
terrible iron sights and worst per shot recoil in class.
and as a mostly S&D player, mag size means very little to me.
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Post by UrbaneVirtuoso on Dec 7, 2015 17:02:13 GMT -5
The Weevil's just an okay weapon, though I'd very much prefer it over the Razorback. Damn does the latter suck to Gold.
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