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Post by imrlybord7 on Dec 23, 2015 23:05:00 GMT -5
For Touch Football Search
Perks are Afterburner, Fast Hands, Blast Suppressor and Dead Silence. So I can take 3 attachments. I rarely engage beyond 38m so Long Barrel doesn't even come close to making the cut.
On the HVK-30 - ELO, Quickdraw, Foregrip, Stock, Laser
If I don't take Laser then Quickdraw and Stock are both must-haves. If I do take Laser then that's up in the air since I probably won't have to ADS during the majority of firefights, and even when I do ADS Laser and Quickdraw are neck and neck given the HVK's awesome hip spread and Quickdraw's lesser potency on Assault Rifles.
TL;DR - ELO vs Foregrip and Quickdraw vs Laser
Or if I take Laser I could go in a different direction and just run Fast/Extended Mags for a never ADS class. The HVK's recoil is a nuisance in Search anyway.
On the M8A7 - ELO, Quickdraw, Stock, Laser, Rapid Fire
Quickdraw and Stock are probably mandatory. ELO, Laser and Rapid Fire are all really nice comfort foods; it's tough to pick one.
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Post by banana on Dec 24, 2015 12:38:26 GMT -5
HVK hardcore: quickdraw grip laser
M8a7: either use the xr-2/dredge/pharo or quickdraw rapid fire stock
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Post by imrlybord7 on Dec 24, 2015 13:24:01 GMT -5
The Pharo is good for aggressive play in respawn gametypes, but in Search a 19m OSK range will let you down big time.
I'd say the M8 is far better than the XR-2 and Dredge unless you're sniping. A 38m OSK range almost never lets me down whereas the XR-2's awful ROF and the Dredge's slower handling let me down constantly.
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Post by -3055- on Dec 24, 2015 15:31:36 GMT -5
S&d: rf haymaker dead silence awareness. I don't need any more cac points.
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Post by imrlybord7 on Dec 24, 2015 16:40:25 GMT -5
The Brecci is so much better. And Rapid Fire is pretty weak on the Haymaker, right? Long Barrel or maybe Laser would be a better option.
Also shotguns in Hardcore really limit where you're allowed to be, but patrolling the right areas they're great.
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Post by Slick on Dec 24, 2015 16:46:00 GMT -5
The only gun I simply cannot compete with when using the Brecci is the gosh darn golly gee whiz Vesper. Just gotta stay out of reliable OSK range, or be more mobile for the Argus and the other gun and you're golden. Still wish the Brecci and Haymaker had 1-2 meter OSK potential.
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Post by banana on Dec 24, 2015 16:57:18 GMT -5
The Pharo is good for aggressive play in respawn gametypes, but in Search a 19m OSK range will let you down big time. I'd say the M8 is far better than the XR-2 and Dredge unless you're sniping. A 38m OSK range almost never lets me down whereas the XR-2's awful ROF and the Dredge's slower handling let me down constantly. Oh you were still talking about hard core? Why would you use the m8 over the hvk/kuda?
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Post by imrlybord7 on Dec 24, 2015 21:53:39 GMT -5
The Pharo is good for aggressive play in respawn gametypes, but in Search a 19m OSK range will let you down big time. I'd say the M8 is far better than the XR-2 and Dredge unless you're sniping. A 38m OSK range almost never lets me down whereas the XR-2's awful ROF and the Dredge's slower handling let me down constantly. Oh you were still talking about hard core? Why would you use the m8 over the hvk/kuda? The Kuda is nowhere near God tier in Touch Football. Past 25 meters it's just some gun, so not much better than the Pharo. The Razorback has low enough recoil to actually compete with ARs. The HVK is probably demigod tier, but its recoil makes it pale in comparison to the M8 if you're pushing against use mind bulletsers. And if you land the first burst, which you should, the M8 shoots insanely fast.
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Post by xFEARtheSHIELDx on Dec 25, 2015 4:41:18 GMT -5
But it's still a fucking burst gun.
In hardcore.
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Post by nopington on Dec 25, 2015 12:25:06 GMT -5
But the M8A7's first burst has a higher RPM than any other gun besides the 48 Dredge and P-06 and still only takes one shot to kill out to 38 meters. Paired with its low recoil, you have an advantage in every gunfight as long as you hit one bullet in your first burst. Speaking of which, it seems like the 48 Dredge w/ a laser sight would be pretty good in Touch Football with its higher RoF and 6-round burst still doing 30 damage per shot, but I've never tried it since not many people play that on PC.
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Post by TheHawkNY on Dec 25, 2015 13:37:41 GMT -5
Also shotguns in Touch Football really limit where you're allowed to be, but patrolling the right areas they're great. Protip: the same is true in core.
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Post by imrlybord7 on Dec 25, 2015 15:22:19 GMT -5
Also shotguns in Touch Football really limit where you're allowed to be, but patrolling the right areas they're great. Protip: the same is true in core. I considered that, but it's way more true in Hardcore since 30 health and no regen. In Core you can get hit and end up living pretty frequently.
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Post by imrlybord7 on Dec 30, 2015 0:31:55 GMT -5
For HC
Man-O-War with Quickdraw, Stock and Laser or ICR-1 with Quickdraw, Stock and Long Barrel?
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Post by Gamma on Jan 21, 2016 8:33:10 GMT -5
What do you think of rapid fire vs stock - on the Pharo?
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Post by imrlybord7 on Jan 21, 2016 14:44:18 GMT -5
What do you think of rapid fire vs stock - on the Pharo? I'd personally go with Rapid Fire because I focus more on dropping targets quickly than I do on dodging their fire. That said, I haven't used Stock very much on SMGs. If it really throws enemies off that much then it might be the better pick.
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Post by Gamma on Jan 21, 2016 14:51:44 GMT -5
What do you think of rapid fire vs stock - on the Pharo? I'd personally go with Rapid Fire because I focus more on dropping targets quickly than I do on dodging their fire. That said, I haven't used Stock very much on SMGs. If it really throws enemies off that much then it might be the better pick. I agree, have been using both, and RF seems the better use of a point. Still wonder what religious stock users think
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Post by UrbaneVirtuoso on Jan 21, 2016 15:38:38 GMT -5
What do you think of rapid fire vs stock - on the Pharo? In all seriousness, Rapid Fire is indeed potent on the Pharo, what with the higher percentage increase for burst guns. Stock SMGs are something you can't easily pass over, either, given it throwing enemy aim assist way out of whack.
Liken this to a sword-and-shield kind of thing, so I'd invest in both.
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Post by Gamma on Jan 22, 2016 3:28:02 GMT -5
What do you think of rapid fire vs stock - on the Pharo? In all seriousness, Rapid Fire is indeed potent on the Pharo, what with the higher percentage increase for burst guns. Stock SMGs are something you can't easily pass over, either, given it throwing enemy aim assist way out of whack.
Liken this to a sword-and-shield kind of thing, so I'd invest in both.Yeah I would; going to have to wean myself off fast mags, I have the immediate reloading disorder that often gets me killed. Will see how quickdraw, rapid fire and stock plays
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Post by Pope Leo VII on Jan 22, 2016 9:45:26 GMT -5
In all seriousness, Rapid Fire is indeed potent on the Pharo, what with the higher percentage increase for burst guns. Stock SMGs are something you can't easily pass over, either, given it throwing enemy aim assist way out of whack.
Liken this to a sword-and-shield kind of thing, so I'd invest in both. Yeah I would; going to have to wean myself off fast mags, I have the immediate reloading disorder that often gets me killed. Will see how quickdraw, rapid fire and stock plays Fast Mags is a complete waste on the Pharo. Use extended mags instead.
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Post by iw5000 on Jan 22, 2016 12:50:07 GMT -5
That picture is awesome!
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Post by imrlybord7 on Mar 31, 2016 18:25:46 GMT -5
ELO vs Grip on the HVK-30? ELO costing one less point on the class doesn't matter.
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Post by UrbaneVirtuoso on Mar 31, 2016 18:29:21 GMT -5
Run the latter for a tangible difference.
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Post by Usagi on Mar 31, 2016 23:12:23 GMT -5
HVK has some pretty noice irons IMO, but if you don't like them I think ELO is a better choice. A crystal clear sight picture will make a big difference in your accuracy, especially with the HVK's bouncy visual recoil.
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Post by Pope Leo VII on Apr 1, 2016 9:05:08 GMT -5
ELO vs Grip on the HVK-30? ELO costing one less point on the class doesn't matter. Actually one of the few irons that are bombass. Stopped using grip a while ago, and there was no difference after dropping it
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