2/14/17 - Who Wants a Threesome with These Two Hawt Fellas?

[markopolo]

Nightfall: Shield Brothers

Dreadnaught, Rings of Saturn Travel deep into the heart of the Dreadnaught in pursuit of a Cabal assault team. Stop it from detonating the Hive ship's core.

Modifiers

Epic - Heavily shielded and highly aggressive enemies appear in great numbers.
Small Arms - Primary Weapon damage is favored.
Fresh Troops - Some enemy squads have been fortified with additional reinforcements.
Match Game - Enemy shields are resistant to all unmatched Elemental Damage.
Airborne - Players deal more damage while in the air.

Heroic Strike Playlist

Modifiers

Heroic - Enemies appear in greater numbers and are more aggressive.
Solar Burn - Solar damage from any source is greatly increased.
Specialist - Special Weapon damage is favored.
Exposure - Guardian shields are increased but do not replenish.


ALL HAIL THE NEW MONARCHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BOW BEFORE THE MONARCHY!!!!!!!

Eris Morn - Hadium
Future War Cult - Relic Iron
Dead Orbit - Relic Iron
New Monarchy - Spinmetal
Raid Challenge Mode: Aksis

Crucible Playlists:

Combined Arms

Iron Lord Artifacts


Memory of Silimar @82% 30 Discipline, 32 Intellect
In the Crucible, resistance to damage-over-time attacks is greatly increased.

Memory of Skorri @ 96% (buy buy buy!!! 1 off max intelect, and 3 off max disc) 35 Intellect, 50 Discipline
When your super is full, nearby allies' supers recharge faster.

Memory of Jolder @ 84% 34 Intellect, 30 Strength
Removes sprint cooldown penalty.


Shiro-4 Vanguard Scout Bounties


Shock It to Me
Use Arc damage to kill Fallen.

Archon's Forge: Shanks
Complete Shank encounters in the Archon's Forge.

Anti‑Splicer
Complete Patrols in the Plaguelands.

Pull the Plug
Kill Fallen Majors and Ultras.



Titan Vanguard Bounties

Strike Elite
Earn "Gold Tier Achieved", "Silver Tier Achieved", or "Bronze Tier Achieved" Medals.

Sunrise
Earn a Gold Tier Achieved Medal in the Nightfall before time expires.

Clean Up
Get 150 enemy kills with your fireteam during a SIVA Crisis Strike to earn "Brutal Efficiency" Medals.

Lord Shaxx Bounties

A Game of Rift
Exercise your skills in the Rift match type.

[markopolo]

Bungo's patch should be dropping 10am PST as per this reddit post

www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/5tz9p6/bungie_tweet_hotfix_coming_at_10am_pst/

[markopolo]

Wow....

So... people wonder why Titans and Hunters get nerfed and punished so hard... yet Warlocks are the favoured children?

It's because titans and hunters break the game

[wings]

Warlocks have been breaking raids since day one.

[markopolo]

Feb 14, 2017 12:02:39 GMT -5 wings said:

Warlocks have been carrying raids since day one.

ftfy.... I was mainly talking about PVP doe

[markopolo]

HOTFIX/PATCH NOTES are out

www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/45661

2.5.0.2 The one about Sandbox tuning.

Crucible

Special Ammo

Adjusted Special ammo economy in all gametypes
Players start Crucible matches with Special ammo
Special ammo is now lost upon death
Sidearms are not affected by this change
Special ammo crates now appear every 60 seconds (initial spawn and respawn)
Special ammo crates are shared with allies within 75m (down from 100m)
Special ammo timing in Mayhem is unchanged


Elimination Gametypes

Round time limit has been reduced to 90 seconds (down from 2 minutes)
Players only start with Special ammo for Round 1 in Elimination gametypes
Special ammo timing is 30s initial, then 45s respawns
Special ammo is wiped at the beginning of subsequent rounds

Weapons

Hand Cannons

Significantly increased initial accuracy (returns to Launch / Year 1)
Reduced base range to 35m from 40m
Reduced Aim Assist and Magnetism at longer ranges
Reduced minimum damage after falloff from 50% to 33%

Auto Rifles

Increased Precision Damage modifier to 1.3x (up from 1.25x)
Increased base damage of low rate of fire Auto Rifles by 2.5%
Increased in air accuracy

Pulse Rifles

Reduced rate of fire for very high rate of fire Pulse Rifles by 7.7%
Increased rate of fire for low rate of fire Pulse Rifles by 5.3%
Reduced Magazine Size of Clever Dragon and Grasp of Malok by 6
Reduced the effect of High Caliber Rounds for Pulse Rifles
Increased in air accuracy

Scout Rifles

Increased in air accuracy

Shotguns

Shotguns no longer deal precision damage
The Chaperone and Universal Remote are unaffected by this change
Note: Universal Remote only deals precision damage when ADS
Shotguns now have significantly less magnetism when fired from the hip
Shotguns now have significantly less in air accuracy
Shotguns no longer have a movement penalty
Shotguns now deal 20% more damage to combatants
Rangefinder on Shotguns now increases ADS time by 25%
Reduced Universal Remote’s Magazine Size to 3 from 5
Universal Remote now takes longer to reload


Exotics

Young Wolf’s Howl

Reduced "Howling Flames" ammo cost from 10 to 5

Truth

Reduced Magazine size from 3 to 1


BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO



Classes

General

Reduced Health of Guardians with Armor values above 10
Increased damage of Flux Grenade, Magnetic Grenade and Shoulder Charge to ensure effectiveness across all Armor values
Blink now disables your Radar and HUD for a short time after activation


Hunter

Throwing Knife now deals Solar Damage on impact
Hungering Blade*
Immediately starts Health regen
Restores more Health per kill
Gives a flat amount of Health/Shield per activation
Does not immediately start regenerating Shields
Bladedancer’s Quick Draw Perk no longer readies your weapons instantly, but now grants a large increase to weapon handling speed


Warlock

Viper Totemic on Ophidian Aspect no longer readies your weapon instantly, but now grants a large increase to weapon handling speed
Stormcaller's Thunderstrike melee range reduced to be consistent with other Warlock Subclasses
Amplitude will continue to grant small range boost to new base range
Landfall now reduces the total time in Stormtrance


Titan

Juggernaut is now disabled after being in the air for a short time and cannot be activated while in mid air

General

Outbreak Prime no longer triggers The Corruption Spreads by shooting at Ward of Dawn

Shinobu’s Vow no longer adds an additional seeker to Skip Grenades
Removed intrinsic Perks Kneepads and Icarus on some Talent grids
Fixed an issue where High Caliber Rounds were not functioning properly on Hand Cannons, Scout Rifles, Machine Guns and Sniper Rifles

*Hungering Blade changes were also inadvertently applied to the following Perks, for more information check this post

Transfusion (Striker Titan)
Cauterize (Sunbreaker Titan)
Lifesteal (Voidwalker Warlock)
Red Death Perk
Suros Legacy Perk (Suros Regime)
No Backup Plans
Ward of Dawn cast
The Ram
Apotheosis Veil
Embrace the Void (Voidwalker Warlock)

[malgato]

So they nerfed many things after saying they weren't going to nerf things. Got it.

[TheHawkNY]

THIS IS THE DAWNING OF THE AGE OF THE FUSION NADES
AGE OF THE FUSION NADES
THA FUUUUSIONNNNNN NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADESSSSS

[hebbnh]

LOL. Quickdraw changes absolutely kill Bladedancer if it wasn't dead already -- other unnecessary changes would've left it on life support anyway though. The Truth now less useful then many random legendaries. Ophidian Aspects nerfed to near-uselessness. Missed that the hungering blade nerf fucked up regen perks on 3 other subclasses and several exotics until it was too late to fix before the patch went live. Nice job Bungo, way to give 110%!

[bradman]

So shottys actually do 20% more damage in PVE?
The Lords' work becomes even more efficient.

[malgato]

Feb 14, 2017 15:34:01 GMT -5 hebbnh said:

LOL. Quickdraw changes absolutely kill Bladedancer if it wasn't dead already -- other unnecessary changes would've left it on life support anyway though. The Truth now less useful then many random legendaries. Ophidian Aspects nerfed to near-uselessness. Missed that the hungering blade nerf Foxtroted up regen perks on 3 other subclasses and several exotics until it was too late to fix before the patch went live. Nice job Bungo, way to give 110%!

So they actually gave .110%. Misplaced the decimal...

[hebbnh]

Also, the 25% nerf to rangefinder shotgun ADS speed was actually a buff. Instead of slowing ADS time by 25% on shotguns with rangefinder, ADS is now 25% quicker. LOL. I mean, did ANYONE playtest this? How does that go unnoticed?

[markopolo]

Feb 15, 2017 10:11:29 GMT -5 hebbnh said:

Also, the 25% nerf to rangefinder shotgun ADS speed was actually a buff. Instead of slowing ADS time by 25% on shotguns with rangefinder, ADS is now 25% quicker. LOL. I mean, did ANYONE playtest this? How does that go unnoticed?

The playtest team went back to playtesting Destiny 2.

Or they thought that no one was going to use shotguns. I mean, despite not mentioning it, the LoW still does precision damage

[markopolo]

I wasn't on yesterday.... but does the voidwalker energy build still apply now that Lifesteal and Embrace the Void got slapped?

[markopolo]

Take it for what it's worth, but TripleWRECK says it's not so bad out there

[TheHawkNY]

His income is pretty tied to the popularity of the game, not surprising he's publicly for the changes.

It's ridiculous that Sidearms don't lose any ammo upon death.

No Land Beyond went from being 6.89% of kills in Elimination this year to 11.07% yesterday, making it the #1 weapon. It's going to be a problem.

[markopolo]

Yes and no.... yes, he gets income from the game but he was quite critical of the shotgun meta 5/6 months ago. Triplewreck generally doesn't take that much crap from Bungo and will call then on it

As for the sidearms bit.... I don't know why that's the case either.

I think the initial popularity of the NLB will wain once the unwashed masses start getting frustrated with it and go back to a more forgiving weapon. If anything, I could see harder hitting scouts (JRabbit and its legendary equivalents) or the MIDA and a sidearm combo be fine.

Or just go ham with an Invective

[TheHawkNY]

Feb 15, 2017 13:33:15 GMT -5 markopolo said:

Yes and no.... yes, he gets income from the game but he was quite critical of the shotgun meta 5/6 months ago. Triplewreck generally doesn't take that much crap from Bungo and will call then on it

As for the sidearms bit.... I don't know why that's the case either.

I think the initial popularity of the NLB will wain once the unwashed masses start getting frustrated with it and go back to a more forgiving weapon. If anything, I could see harder hitting scouts (JRabbit and its legendary equivalents) or the MIDA and a sidearm combo be fine.

Or just go ham with an Invective

In 6v6, yes the popularity of NLB will probably fade somewhat as the unwashed masses get wrecked trying to use it. However, the population that plays Trials of Osiris is not a random sample of the population - the average skill level is significantly higher. NLB was already the second or third most popular primary in Trials. Participation numbers continue to slowly decline for Trials, while the percentage of people (that participate) that go flawless remains ~15%. The ones that can use NLB will continue to be successful and play, while those that can't will get sniped.

[snes chalmers]

This accuracy buff on the hand cannons kind of makes me want to finish off the First Curse quest, just need to do the 7 precision kills in PvP step (got to 6 a number of times, got frustrated, and stopped going for it).

Plus the Imprecation should be a bit easier now due to the 8 round magazine...hopefully.

[markopolo]

Feb 15, 2017 23:45:23 GMT -5 snes chalmers said:

This accuracy buff on the hand cannons kind of makes me want to finish off the First Curse quest, just need to do the 7 precision kills in PvP step (got to 6 a number of times, got frustrated, and stopped going for it).

Plus the Imprecation should be a bit easier now due to the 8 round magazine...hopefully.

If only you knew 2 or 3 or 4 others who could load up with you into a 3 or 4 or 5 man rumble match.......

If only those people would just run at you and you could shoot them in the face and have it done in a minute or less......

If only.....

If only.....

[markopolo]

Feb 15, 2017 17:41:07 GMT -5 TheHawkNY said:

Feb 15, 2017 13:33:15 GMT -5 markopolo said:

Yes and no.... yes, he gets income from the game but he was quite critical of the shotgun meta 5/6 months ago. Triplewreck generally doesn't take that much crap from Bungo and will call then on it

As for the sidearms bit.... I don't know why that's the case either.

I think the initial popularity of the NLB will wain once the unwashed masses start getting frustrated with it and go back to a more forgiving weapon. If anything, I could see harder hitting scouts (JRabbit and its legendary equivalents) or the MIDA and a sidearm combo be fine.

Or just go ham with an Invective

In 6v6, yes the popularity of NLB will probably fade somewhat as the unwashed masses get wrecked trying to use it. However, the population that plays Trials of Osiris is not a random sample of the population - the average skill level is significantly higher. NLB was already the second or third most popular primary in Trials. Participation numbers continue to slowly decline for Trials, while the percentage of people (that participate) that go flawless remains ~15%. The ones that can use NLB will continue to be successful and play, while those that can't will get sniped.

But skilled players can use any gun and give them a bit of a chance to get used to it, they'll start wrecking. Just like if you give me a katana and a ninja master a toothpick, I'm still going to die regardless of having the superior weapon.

Ultimately, Trials will always be elite and at least imho, Bungie doesn't necessarily take them into account when making PVP changes.

[TheHawkNY]

Feb 16, 2017 11:27:44 GMT -5 markopolo said:

Feb 15, 2017 17:41:07 GMT -5 TheHawkNY said:

In 6v6, yes the popularity of NLB will probably fade somewhat as the unwashed masses get wrecked trying to use it. However, the population that plays Trials of Osiris is not a random sample of the population - the average skill level is significantly higher. NLB was already the second or third most popular primary in Trials. Participation numbers continue to slowly decline for Trials, while the percentage of people (that participate) that go flawless remains ~15%. The ones that can use NLB will continue to be successful and play, while those that can't will get sniped.

But skilled players can use any gun and give them a bit of a chance to get used to it, they'll start wrecking. Just like if you give me a katana and a ninja master a toothpick, I'm still going to die regardless of having the superior weapon.

Ultimately, Trials will always be elite and at least imho, Bungie doesn't necessarily take them into account when making PVP changes.

There's a big difference between the NLB and other guns. An auto rifle, for example, has a very high skill floor and a very low skill ceiling - it's easy to pick up and use. A more skilled player will do better with it, but there isn't a big difference in its functionality for a bad player as compared to a good one. NLB, on the other hand, has a very low skill floor and a very high skill ceiling. A talented player will pop out from cover, already knowing which sight line to look down, aim, headshot you before they even appear on your screen due to lag, and be back behind cover before you even know you're dead. An unskilled player isn't using cover, doesn't know the sightlines, and doesn't have that kind of aim.

Trials is the PvP end game, so I don't know why they wouldn't take it into account. It's elite, but it's become more and more so. Over the past year, the peak number of participants was 827k. Last week was only 262k. It's kind of a problem when it feels like most of the people reaching the Lighthouse are professionals and the people they're carrying.

[Dumien]

You are having too much fun with these titles being on the den main page lol.

[markopolo]

Feb 16, 2017 14:10:43 GMT -5 Dumien said:

You are having too much fun with these titles being on the den main page lol.

You're.... welcome?

[wings]

Feb 15, 2017 13:33:15 GMT -5 markopolo said:

Yes and no.... yes, he gets income from the game but he was quite critical of the shotgun meta 5/6 months ago. Triplewreck generally doesn't take that much crap from Bungo and will call then on it

Critical of a shotgun meta in a game that promotes CQC heavily due to map design, in-game mechanics (such as no audible footstep sounds from hostile players) and Guardian abilities? Am I reading this correctly? Can you imagine some of the maps in COD that allow long ranged engagements in Destiny? Me neither. A portion of the playerbase is to blame for bailing on larger maps because they get bored if they have to spend more than five seconds to find someone to shoot at, then wonder why they get spawn killed when the maps become small enough. You're also not going to get people straying from the meta in lobbies if bounties require wins, which have been reduced over time, and SBMM being strict.

[markopolo]

Feb 16, 2017 14:33:59 GMT -5 wings said:

Feb 15, 2017 13:33:15 GMT -5 markopolo said:

Yes and no.... yes, he gets income from the game but he was quite critical of the shotgun meta 5/6 months ago. Triplewreck generally doesn't take that much crap from Bungo and will call then on it

Critical of a shotgun meta in a game that promotes CQC heavily due to map design, in-game mechanics (such as no audible footstep sounds from hostile players) and Guardian abilities? Am I reading this correctly? Can you imagine some of the maps in COD that allow long ranged engagements in Destiny? Me neither. A portion of the playerbase is to blame for bailing on larger maps because they get bored if they have to spend more than five seconds to find someone to shoot at, then wonder why they get spawn killed when the maps become small enough. You're also not going to get people straying from the meta in lobbies if bounties require wins, which have been reduced over time, and SBMM being strict.

The CoD section is at the top of the page. This is the Destiny section. You might have clicked in the wrong thread.

[wings]

Feb 16, 2017 14:51:11 GMT -5 markopolo said:

Feb 16, 2017 14:33:59 GMT -5 wings said:

Critical of a shotgun meta in a game that promotes CQC heavily due to map design, in-game mechanics (such as no audible footstep sounds from hostile players) and Guardian abilities? Am I reading this correctly? Can you imagine some of the maps in COD that allow long ranged engagements in Destiny? Me neither. A portion of the playerbase is to blame for bailing on larger maps because they get bored if they have to spend more than five seconds to find someone to shoot at, then wonder why they get spawn killed when the maps become small enough. You're also not going to get people straying from the meta in lobbies if bounties require wins, which have been reduced over time, and SBMM being strict.

The CoD section is at the top of the page. This is the Destiny section. You might have clicked in the wrong thread.

Actually there are quite a few similarities between the two games and expect more over time. Sorry if you're blinded by Youtube fanboys and you cannot see it yet. Enjoy playing a game that caters towards the lowest common denominator.

[markopolo]

Feb 16, 2017 18:58:49 GMT -5 Mousey said:

Feb 16, 2017 15:43:23 GMT -5 wings said:

Enjoy playing a game that caters towards the lowest common denominator.

shut up nerd ur all console plebians

No_u!

[snes chalmers]

Feb 16, 2017 11:23:25 GMT -5 markopolo said:

If only you knew 2 or 3 or 4 others who could load up with you into a 3 or 4 or 5 man rumble match.......

If only those people would just run at you and you could shoot them in the face and have it done in a minute or less......

If only.....

If I catch some of you guys on this weekend, might consider doing that...cause Control might not be a great place for doing this (especially when I'm rusty at PvP).

[markopolo]

In homage to the atrocious patch that Bungie put out, the Nine decided to give Xur the worst inventory in his history. Honestly, I had to take a moment and pause to see if it was worth my time and waste of space on the internet to repost it from reddit. But duties are duties... but this one was hard to do kids.

But I don't care if you have a vault and 3 characters full of 9999 strange coins... there is no reason to waste them this week. Just delete the stack and carry on.

Know how in weeks gone by, people say how bad Xur is? Well, this is the week that they say it and it's right.

No amount of polish can make this turd shine. No amount of freezing can shape this $hit.

None.

This is a new low. I like to say I see the good in everything or everyone. Even I can't this week.

*sigh*



Xur's in The Reef... but don't bother visiting him because it's a waste of time. Maybe just try that hovering thing on the edge of the spawn instead? Or go hump one of the latex queen's guard hotties? Jerk it to Petra?

He's selling the worst weapon in the game, the Hard Light for 23 SC which is like paying $1,000,000 to a Tijuana 25 cent meth crackhead hooker. Honestly. I've lost all respect for you if you spend this many coins on this trash piece of garbage weapon. It says something about you as a person and reflects badly upon you, your family, and literally everyone associated with you. I'd just commit Sepuku or the ritualized suicide procession of your culture.

Eternal Warrior Titan Helmet with 42 Int // 43 Str for a 92% for 13 SC but it's a horrible helmet so literally, just delete the stack of SC instead of giving them to Xur.

Lucky Raspberry Hunter Chest Armor with a 103 Dis roll for 84% for 13 SC which is equally attrocious so again... just delete the 13 SC instead of spending them

Purifier Robes Warlock Chest Armor with a 55 Int // 57 Dis for 92% but given that they are perhaps the worst warlock chest piece you can wear, again... delete the 13 SC instead of spending them

Legacy Engram is the Gauntlet Engram for 29 SC but honestly, if you need gauntlets, you should feel bad and just delete your characters and start over again.