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Post by bradman on Jan 18, 2018 13:44:47 GMT -5
gosh darn golly gee whiz. How many Community managers does Bungie need? If I had to take a guess, I think DeeJ's getting tired of this, and they're advertising the position to give Cosmo the job, with Dmg taking over for Cosmo Those guys may all get flushed if they can't put out the fire, soon.
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Post by markopolo on Jan 18, 2018 13:51:29 GMT -5
If I had to take a guess, I think DeeJ's getting tired of this, and they're advertising the position to give Cosmo the job, with Dmg taking over for Cosmo Those guys may all get flushed if they can't put out the fire, soon. What are they supposed to do? They're salesepeople, not content creators. If the devs make stupid shit, they have to deal with the crowd reaction... they market and sell the goods and put out fires.
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Post by markopolo on Jan 18, 2018 13:52:08 GMT -5
Buying a disc? What is this? 2010? Am I back playing CoD Ghosts? Next you're going to tell me that I need to pay for porn? Buying a piece of plastic.... Bradley Montcalm George Francis Montgomery Phillip Maximilian Man XVIII..... never change I have nearly 50 games and all are digital. I was giving you the cheapest option. If you hated the game you could get a couple bucks back out of it. Just russlin' yer gibblies there, My Harambe
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Post by wings on Jan 18, 2018 14:00:33 GMT -5
gosh darn golly gee whiz. How many Community managers does Bungie need? If I had to take a guess, I think DeeJ's getting tired of this, and they're advertising the position to give Cosmo the job, with Dmg taking over for Cosmo I can't blame him. I still remember his facial expression over the rewards for completing the Mercury public event. If you are to get The Division, check out some build guides by MarcoStyle. His Dutch accent is pretty strong but I've heard of harder accents to understand. I have four characters so I use the loadout system in the menus to spread the gear sets around.
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Post by markopolo on Jan 18, 2018 15:04:13 GMT -5
I grew up with good family friends who were Dutch (were, meaning now they're dead) so I can understand it. I spent a year in Germany so I understand the accent, unless it's ultra harsh/lived my life in a windmill harsh accent
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Post by TheHawkNY on Jan 18, 2018 16:03:44 GMT -5
For all the criticisms everyone has been throwing at Activision for so long for supposedly forcing Bungie to ruin the game, it's interesting to see how the failure of D2 seems to be Activision giving Bungie way too long a leash to do what they want. Activision's M.O. has been hire talented development team; let them make innovative, great game; have them pump out title after title with as few changes to the formula as possible.
Unfortunately, instead of looking at what they had and saying, "let's make more of that", Bungie made the assumption that in order to reach the sales they wanted to, they assumed they had to make changes to the game to reach a broader audience. Unfortunately, these changes ruined what made D1 work. Even more stupid is that they didn't need to do it at all. Look at MW2 - it's simply more of COD4 with as few changes as you can realistically get away with. It seemed like COD4 had completely saturated the FPS market, and there were no more sales to be had, and then MW2 came in and sold 50%+ more units than COD4. All they needed to do was more of D1, have a story that wasn't universally panned, and with the addition of the PC version they should have had at least 50% more sales, if not double.
They've lost the forest for the trees. They made changes to improve PvP which in no way addressed that the PvP in pretty much every other shooter is deeper, more rewarding, and just more fun. They designed the endgame almost exclusively around cosmetic items, but forgot that people playing a loot shooter want to have some functional loot. They're putting so much effort behind all of these events and the bump in players that they bring, that they've forgotten to give players a reason to log in at all.
I wasn't kidding earlier - there literally isn't anything functional I can earn. My inventory is full, there aren't any weapons I want that I don't have, I have all of the exotics. All I can do now is acquire currencies and cosmetic items. There's nothing to chase.
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Post by markopolo on Jan 18, 2018 16:47:21 GMT -5
For all the criticisms everyone has been throwing at Activision for so long for supposedly forcing Bungie to ruin the game, it's interesting to see how the failure of D2 seems to be Activision giving Bungie way too long a leash to do what they want. Activision's M.O. has been hire talented development team; let them make innovative, great game; have them pump out title after title with as few changes to the formula as possible. Unfortunately, instead of looking at what they had and saying, "let's make more of that", Bungie made the assumption that in order to reach the sales they wanted to, they assumed they had to make changes to the game to reach a broader audience. Unfortunately, these changes ruined what made D1 work. Even more stupid is that they didn't need to do it at all. Look at MW2 - it's simply more of COD4 with as few changes as you can realistically get away with. It seemed like COD4 had completely saturated the FPS market, and there were no more sales to be had, and then MW2 came in and sold 50%+ more units than COD4. All they needed to do was more of D1, have a story that wasn't universally panned, and with the addition of the PC version they should have had at least 50% more sales, if not double. They've lost the forest for the trees. They made changes to improve PvP which in no way addressed that the PvP in pretty much every other shooter is deeper, more rewarding, and just more fun. They designed the endgame almost exclusively around cosmetic items, but forgot that people playing a loot shooter want to have some functional loot. They're putting so much effort behind all of these events and the bump in players that they bring, that they've forgotten to give players a reason to log in at all. I wasn't kidding earlier - there literally isn't anything functional I can earn. My inventory is full, there aren't any weapons I want that I don't have, I have all of the exotics. All I can do now is acquire currencies and cosmetic items. There's nothing to chase. I honestly don't know how you do it.... I'm full and I just run warlocks.... how have you done it with different classes?
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Post by TheHawkNY on Jan 18, 2018 17:06:58 GMT -5
For all the criticisms everyone has been throwing at Activision for so long for supposedly forcing Bungie to ruin the game, it's interesting to see how the failure of D2 seems to be Activision giving Bungie way too long a leash to do what they want. Activision's M.O. has been hire talented development team; let them make innovative, great game; have them pump out title after title with as few changes to the formula as possible. Unfortunately, instead of looking at what they had and saying, "let's make more of that", Bungie made the assumption that in order to reach the sales they wanted to, they assumed they had to make changes to the game to reach a broader audience. Unfortunately, these changes ruined what made D1 work. Even more stupid is that they didn't need to do it at all. Look at MW2 - it's simply more of COD4 with as few changes as you can realistically get away with. It seemed like COD4 had completely saturated the FPS market, and there were no more sales to be had, and then MW2 came in and sold 50%+ more units than COD4. All they needed to do was more of D1, have a story that wasn't universally panned, and with the addition of the PC version they should have had at least 50% more sales, if not double. They've lost the forest for the trees. They made changes to improve PvP which in no way addressed that the PvP in pretty much every other shooter is deeper, more rewarding, and just more fun. They designed the endgame almost exclusively around cosmetic items, but forgot that people playing a loot shooter want to have some functional loot. They're putting so much effort behind all of these events and the bump in players that they bring, that they've forgotten to give players a reason to log in at all. I wasn't kidding earlier - there literally isn't anything functional I can earn. My inventory is full, there aren't any weapons I want that I don't have, I have all of the exotics. All I can do now is acquire currencies and cosmetic items. There's nothing to chase. I honestly don't know how you do it.... I'm full and I just run warlocks.... how have you done it with different classes? Honestly, I'm not sure why my inventory is so full. I could probably delete most of the items I have. Who cares about the armor? All I ever wear is the astronaut suit on my Titan, my white and purple outfit on my Hunter, and the Ikora set on my Warlock. I could probably cut it down to 9 items per slot per character and never think twice about the items I'd deleted. As for the weapons, I could get rid of most of them. I'd say a good half of them I'm holding on to only in case they ever decide to do weapon re-balancing. A bunch of them I can't get rid of because I'd never be able to get them again. I try to switch up which weapons I use as much as possible, and I'm still using a tiny fraction of my inventory.
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Post by bradman on Jan 18, 2018 19:07:19 GMT -5
Those guys may all get flushed if they can't put out the fire, soon. What are they supposed to do? They're salesepeople, not content creators. If the devs make stupid shit, they have to deal with the crowd reaction... they market and sell the goods and put out fires. They're supposed to be something more than sarcastic and hostile. Maybe try transparency. P.R. people bad at P.R. may be in danger of losing their jobs.
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Post by markopolo on Jan 18, 2018 19:43:55 GMT -5
True...,
Tw@b wasn’t anything we didn’t know already... too harsh on the faction nerf, bad communication about no new weapons, sandbox is being wirked on, they’re listening blah blah blah
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Post by wings on Jan 19, 2018 12:41:16 GMT -5
Well, Epic seem to be getting a lot of praise for their communication with their playerbase for Fortnite BR and it seems to be annoying some members on DTG.
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Post by markopolo on Jan 19, 2018 13:51:05 GMT -5
TBF, we do exist in an environment where any game could do something and it would be better than what Bungie is doing.
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Post by wings on Jan 20, 2018 7:41:43 GMT -5
Well, it looked like farming the XP with the x3 buff took longer on Mercury than previous weeks at other destinations. Most of the Illuminated engram rewards have been below par too. Got a whopping 12 lots of War Cult Endgame shaders from 18 rank ups and I still had to buy the chest and boots. Got the FWC fusion rifle and it's rated very low on DIM. Thinking of going for a tier 12 build for my Nightstalker in D1.
Yeah a lot of streamers seem to have either massively reduced playing D2, are on a hiatus, or appear to be completely involved in other games. RIP Jon Weisnewski's wish to expand Destiny's viewership on Twitch.
Edit: Looks like I already have a few options for a 4/4/4 build from what I have according to DIM. This is what I get for using the Companion App mostly during D1 because my old netbook didn't like it/Chrome.
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Post by wings on Jan 22, 2018 6:17:04 GMT -5
Void burn and small arms on the Weekly Heroics in D1 is awesome on a Voidwalker. Run Nothing Monacles and use a raid chest piece for the Mortal Medicine stacks, which grants a boost to recovery per grenade kill.
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Post by TheHawkNY on Jan 22, 2018 9:29:12 GMT -5
What are they supposed to do? They're salesepeople, not content creators. If the devs make stupid shit, they have to deal with the crowd reaction... they market and sell the goods and put out fires. They're supposed to be something more than sarcastic and hostile. Maybe try transparency. P.R. people bad at P.R. may be in danger of losing their jobs. I haven't seen them be sarcastic or hostile. It honestly feels like they're being as transparent as possible without just going ahead and highlighting all of the failures. Look at the development update - that's all they can say they're going to do for the entirety of 2018, and it's complete trash. It's not their fault that the developers made an MMO with absolutely no end game. It's not their fault the developers made an FPS with abysmal PvP. It's not their fault the developers' plans to fix the game are to slowly fix the minor problems without addressing the major ones. You can go from Sean Spicer to Sarah Huckabee Sanders, but ultimately the problem is the incredible incompetence they're tasked at representing. I mean, give them some credit, the company deserves to be dragged around in public like it has been, but they haven't said anything so tone deaf it gave people something to latch on to and rally around, like "throw money at the screen" or "the intent is to provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking different heroes."
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Post by TheHawkNY on Jan 22, 2018 9:35:07 GMT -5
Well, it looked like farming the XP with the x3 buff took longer on Mercury than previous weeks at other destinations. Most of the Illuminated engram rewards have been below par too. Got a whopping 12 lots of War Cult Endgame shaders from 18 rank ups and I still had to buy the chest and boots. Got the FWC fusion rifle and it's rated very low on DIM. Thinking of going for a tier 12 build for my Nightstalker in D1. Yeah a lot of streamers seem to have either massively reduced playing D2, are on a hiatus, or appear to be completely involved in other games. RIP Jon Weisnewski's wish to expand Destiny's viewership on Twitch. Edit: Looks like I already have a few options for a 4/4/4 build from what I have according to DIM. This is what I get for using the Companion App mostly during D1 because my old netbook didn't like it/Chrome. Seems like they've drastically reduced the gifts of bright dust, making it even harder to earn the dust to buy what you want. Why would you farm on Mercury? I understand doing Mercury until you finish the flashpoint, but after that?
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Post by wings on Jan 22, 2018 10:14:12 GMT -5
Seems like they've drastically reduced the gifts of bright dust, making it even harder to earn the dust to buy what you want. Why would you farm on Mercury? I understand doing Mercury until you finish the flashpoint, but after that? Previously I used to farm Mercury just to make use of the Sagira shell but I do like the Vex thematically, but this week was because I was farming cores. I did get a duplicate class item for my Titan from an Illuminated engram. Before Curse of Osiris players theorised that you got Bright Dust gifts in replace of a duplicate armour piece. If that was true then it doesn't surprise me if this has changed as it has reduced the return of Bright Dust, from 250 Bright Dust from a small gift to just over 100 from dismantling the exclusive armour. I don't need to do the Flashpoints to increase the light on anything, I just do it for the XP gains and stocking up on Bright Dust for future purchases but it looks like my time will be better served elsewhere.
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Post by TheHawkNY on Jan 22, 2018 11:01:41 GMT -5
Seems like they've drastically reduced the gifts of bright dust, making it even harder to earn the dust to buy what you want. Why would you farm on Mercury? I understand doing Mercury until you finish the flashpoint, but after that? Previously I used to farm Mercury just to make use of the Sagira shell but I do like the Vex thematically, but this week was because I was farming cores. I did get a duplicate class item for my Titan from an Illuminated engram. Before Curse of Osiris players theorised that you got Bright Dust gifts in replace of a duplicate armour piece. If that was true then it doesn't surprise me if this has changed as it has reduced the return of Bright Dust, from 250 Bright Dust from a small gift to just over 100 from dismantling the exclusive armour. I don't need to do the Flashpoints to increase the light on anything, I just do it for the XP gains and stocking up on Bright Dust for future purchases but it looks like my time will be better served elsewhere. I hadn't heard about that theory. I dismantle all of the Eververse armor, so if that were the case, it would have to be checking against things you've ever earned. Your time is definitely better spent on other planets. I haven't measured it to say for sure, but I suspect Nessus is the most effective to farm for XP.
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Post by markopolo on Jan 22, 2018 11:35:41 GMT -5
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Post by markopolo on Jan 22, 2018 11:42:26 GMT -5
What are they supposed to do? They're salesepeople, not content creators. If the devs make stupid shit, they have to deal with the crowd reaction... they market and sell the goods and put out fires. They're supposed to be something more than sarcastic and hostile. Maybe try transparency. P.R. people bad at P.R. may be in danger of losing their jobs. What's essentially going on is like a restaurant: the cooks whipped up a grand feast (Smith, Noseworthy) that they thought everyone would eat... it was only a 2 or 3 course meal... the customers are complaining to the Manager and serving staff (Barrett, live team) and customers are ripping it a new on restaruant review sites (youtubers, twitch streamers, reddit, forbes/kotaku) I wouldn't say they're sarcastic and hostile... it's just that they can only do so much so they're dealing with what they can I mean... we all know Smith and Noseworthy are only going to come out of their holes when the D2: Savathun Strikes Back comes out in the fall.... the key is when they start throwing all the pretty things and promises out at us, to hold them accountable for all the $hit they pulled with us at D2's Launch and while we can forgive, we most certainly cannot forget
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Post by TheHawkNY on Jan 22, 2018 11:43:24 GMT -5
I mean, that's nice that there will be an hour or two worth of gameplay, maybe a few if they stretch it out. That's something to look forward to, in the absence of an end-game.
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Post by markopolo on Jan 22, 2018 11:48:59 GMT -5
I mean, that's nice that there will be an hour or two worth of gameplay, maybe a few if they stretch it out. That's something to look forward to, in the absence of an end-game. Exactly... that's really all they can do at this point.... they can't give us new stuff (endgame, strikes) so they're giving us shiny things to dress up the end game? How many of you remember the Bedazzler in the 80's/90's.... where one could punch rhinestones and jewels into one's old shirts, demin jackets... to spice up their old looks? That's what Barrett and co are doing: here, take the old strike gear and $hit you did before... but BEDAZZLE IT with new ornaments to wear!!! Except Ornaments in D1 actually meant something.... and in D2.... they don't mean $hit and they're kinda piss poor in some cases
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Post by wings on Jan 22, 2018 12:00:20 GMT -5
Previously I used to farm Mercury just to make use of the Sagira shell but I do like the Vex thematically, but this week was because I was farming cores. I did get a duplicate class item for my Titan from an Illuminated engram. Before Curse of Osiris players theorised that you got Bright Dust gifts in replace of a duplicate armour piece. If that was true then it doesn't surprise me if this has changed as it has reduced the return of Bright Dust, from 250 Bright Dust from a small gift to just over 100 from dismantling the exclusive armour. I don't need to do the Flashpoints to increase the light on anything, I just do it for the XP gains and stocking up on Bright Dust for future purchases but it looks like my time will be better served elsewhere. I hadn't heard about that theory. I dismantle all of the Eververse armor, so if that were the case, it would have to be checking against things you've ever earned. Your time is definitely better spent on other planets. I haven't measured it to say for sure, but I suspect Nessus is the most effective to farm for XP. Thanks for the suggestion, I will farm Nessus when Mercury is the flashpoint next time. I used to farm Nessus the most before the throttling XP came to light. The red laser beams of death during the Cabal drill public events are annoying because the red isn't too dissimilar from the orange leaves. I know Nessus was popular amongst premade Fireteams but I usually farm solo so I'm usually on Io or the EDZ. The duplicate Titan Mark I got was after already having a full set in my inventory, so I have no idea how it works since Bungie won't tell us if we could 'game' the rewards. I guess the only Eververse item I'm after now is an exotic ghost that deals an extra 10% XP on all destinations even though I have all destinations covered for extra XP gains anyway.
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Post by wings on Jan 22, 2018 12:28:10 GMT -5
Except Ornaments in D1 actually meant something.... and in D2.... they don't mean $hit and they're kinda piss poor in some cases I'm not sure Bungie will ever equal or top the ornaments' designs of the raid armour in D1 when Age of Triumph was released. I collected all of the Omega Mechanos gear for all three characters in D2 but they're nowhere near as good as the Vault of Glass sets, either in their original state or their updated versions with ornaments. I got all four raid sets on all three characters complete with ornaments and it felt an achievement getting all of them. And I still use the armour from the Vault of Glass and Wrath of the Machine when I play D1. I don't bother with the Leviathan or Eater of Worlds armour sets.
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Post by markopolo on Jan 22, 2018 16:20:29 GMT -5
Some interesting stuff from Josh Hamrick (sandbox dude) about why mobility doesn't affect movement speed tl;dr: world loading times
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Post by TheHawkNY on Jan 22, 2018 16:31:31 GMT -5
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Post by markopolo on Jan 22, 2018 16:34:08 GMT -5
I tried the Monster Hunter Beta on friday....
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Post by wings on Jan 23, 2018 4:24:30 GMT -5
Some interesting stuff from Josh Hamrick (sandbox dude) about why mobility doesn't affect movement speed tl;dr: world loading timesEven if that's true I don't think many players will believe it after all the lies and half-truths Bungie have stated in the past. Plus, it looks like whatever Bungie are using to create content with, whether it's their game engine or the developer tools, are hampering creativity for the game.
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Post by bradman on Jan 23, 2018 8:14:51 GMT -5
That's a great game and a great buy. I'll jump on with you sometime.
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Post by snes chalmers on Jan 25, 2018 1:57:25 GMT -5
Hmm...I never did get around to trying out Titanfall 2. Maybe I should check it out soon.
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