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Post by ElysMustache on Nov 23, 2012 12:38:10 GMT -5
Stu has started posting weapon guides. He says one per week. Here's the first:
Of note: The only stat that differs from the spreadsheet on this forum is firerate, which XboxAhoy lists as 750 vice 720. He mentions in passing that the Semtex does less damage than the frag grenade.
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Post by mmacola on Nov 23, 2012 12:40:46 GMT -5
So, as we see we can all trust Marvel for the fire rates, his coincides with the one Stuart said.
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Post by Tyzerra on Nov 23, 2012 14:21:21 GMT -5
^ Gosh darn golly gee whiz, that sucks On the bright side though, you did get a reply from Xbox Ahoy
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Post by Evan950 on Nov 23, 2012 19:29:32 GMT -5
how did he make his own recoil plot?
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Post by corpsecreate on Nov 23, 2012 19:35:41 GMT -5
The firerate on PS3/360 is 720 RPM. 100% certain of this.
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Post by Marvel4 on Nov 23, 2012 19:36:02 GMT -5
Only at 60 FPS.
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Post by corpsecreate on Nov 23, 2012 19:40:18 GMT -5
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Post by aidsaidsaids on Nov 23, 2012 22:19:28 GMT -5
Do we know yet if there are any lulzy ways to drop it consistently? Napalm Tactical Lag Strike etc
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Nov 23, 2012 22:26:18 GMT -5
I don't think XboxAhoy has ever known what he's talking about, he's just a some guy who happens to have a radio voice.
Hay guys don't use DMG proff or Extenze mags on shotguns, that sucks. Use grip and focus/melee it's far superior, just trust my voice.
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Post by xboxahoy on Nov 23, 2012 23:17:58 GMT -5
I don't think XboxAhoy has ever known what he's talking about, he's just a some guy who happens to have a radio voice. Well, if someone isn't quite the sourpuss.
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Post by xboxahoy on Nov 23, 2012 23:29:01 GMT -5
I like it that way. Gives me free reign to be sassy.
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Post by kittymulcher on Nov 23, 2012 23:30:35 GMT -5
I like xboxahoy's guides. He has some idea of stats, but I think in his videos what feels right is just as important. You can delve into which guns have less recoil, which guns have a faster reload, but when you're in a gunfight, the only thing that matters is bullets down range. In a way, stats have never meant much in COD because every gun (with a few exceptions) is about as effective as the other guns. My philosophy is to go with what works, and for me the best way to do that is to just plain weigh what I like a little higher than what is statistically the better weapon for a given map.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Nov 23, 2012 23:32:33 GMT -5
I like the part where he told me the KSG-12 was a powerful and consistent weapon. (The MW3 one) Eh, but then again I'm just being a hater
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Post by kittymulcher on Nov 23, 2012 23:37:28 GMT -5
He was paid by activision, he can't just say KSG is a pos and I don't like it. Besides, he's always made every gun seem like it can tear shit up, but in reality it's terrible. F2000, Uzi, MG36, L86 LSW, a tonne of pistols, Olympia come to mind. On his main channel he's all roses, but if a gun is a POS then he'll say it like it is on his secondary channel. KSG was unforgiveable, I'm assuming this was at launch because a pump action with 6 buck shot is fucking terrible.
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Post by kirbyderby on Nov 23, 2012 23:37:56 GMT -5
I like the part where he talks about stuff.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Nov 23, 2012 23:42:50 GMT -5
KSG is a pos and I don't like it Xcal or AVGN?
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Nov 23, 2012 23:49:39 GMT -5
I was asking him where he where he heard the catchphrase "Its' a PoS and I don't like it" yah dum mao-sss
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Post by kittymulcher on Nov 23, 2012 23:50:47 GMT -5
I'm a fan of both. Mousey, he means did I take the phrase from xcal or angry video game nerd. I took it from xcal, and I'd do it again. He does great playthroughs, I liked seeing the mass effect 2 ones.
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Post by xboxahoy on Nov 24, 2012 0:07:39 GMT -5
I like the part where he told me the KSG-12 was a powerful and consistent weapon. (The MW3 one) You can't deny that the MW3 KSG is consistently powerful. Anyway, I'm not in the business of disparaging weapons - I just play to their strengths, even if they do pale in terms of the overall weapon balance. If I didn't do this, every Black Ops weapon guide would have boiled down to 'use the AUG or FAMAS instead'. And that, quite frankly, is no fun.
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Post by prioc on Nov 24, 2012 0:11:40 GMT -5
they are nice videos, I enjoy watching them a lot. I remember watching the M16A4(pre-patch) one in MW3 made me feel like that gun was great even though it wasn't that good.
keep up the good work, dude
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Post by kittymulcher on Nov 24, 2012 0:23:37 GMT -5
I'd agree xboxahoy, insofar as you're within 9m. And therein lies the crux of the problem: it doesn't have enough range. I'd make it so pump actions kill out to 16 metres reliably, the Model 1887 kills in one shot through out it's entire range, but the KSG does not have the same stopping power. I'd also say the USAS is better if you want something that like you say is consistent, and the best bit is it has better fire rate. I have a few videos on my file share of the KSG absolutely sucking, and I'd go as far to say that I prefer the 1887 over it any day of the week because I know that if he's in 18m I can actually kill them in 1 shot.
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Post by probaddie on Nov 24, 2012 1:21:18 GMT -5
If you're not under NDA or something, would you mind sharing the decrypted weapon files for MW3 with us? That data is crucial to a project I have pertaining to recoil, and with MW3 being the only game in the series with appreciable GunKick since CoD4 it be nice to have the data to test my methods with.
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Post by rubixx on Nov 24, 2012 2:53:30 GMT -5
probaddieThat isn't actually XboxAhoy's account. (Edit: or is it??? ) He replied to Mousey on twitter that he doesn't have access to the raw files so he is in the dark like us.
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Post by mmacola on Nov 24, 2012 2:54:49 GMT -5
He had access to the MW3 files, thats for sure.
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Post by probaddie on Nov 24, 2012 2:58:43 GMT -5
probaddieThat isn't actually XboxAhoy's account. (Edit: or is it??? ) He replied to Mousey on twitter that he doesn't have access to the raw files so he is in the dark like us. Right. He isn't working for Activision for BO2 but he did for MW3.
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Post by wwaa on Nov 24, 2012 4:13:59 GMT -5
I like the comment below the video:
MTAR: " ... it's low dagame AR with stupid Irons and unmanagable recoil. And there is no Stopping Power equal Attachment/Perk ingame. This gun fucking sucks (c) Wickedshrapnel"
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Post by Evan950 on Nov 24, 2012 10:36:13 GMT -5
probaddieThat isn't actually XboxAhoy's account. (Edit: or is it??? ) He replied to Mousey on twitter that he doesn't have access to the raw files so he is in the dark like us. thats not stu - someone made an account under his name a year ago in a thread where we were talking about him
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Post by bluespark on Nov 25, 2012 16:10:31 GMT -5
thats not stu - someone made an account under his name a year ago in a thread where we were talking about him Except the account was made over a year before he made that post. Time travel... I figured if anyone could do it, it'd have to be someone on Den's boards.
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Post by ElysMustache on Nov 25, 2012 17:49:56 GMT -5
Time travel... I figured if anyone could do it, it'd have to be someone on Den's boards. I do it all the time. At the rate of one second per second.
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