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Post by Lexapro on Dec 19, 2012 21:16:03 GMT -5
What are the best/your favorite AR + attachment combinations?
Looking for 2 and 3 attachment combinations.
I'll start things off: MTAR + Target Finder + Quickdraw
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Post by Broadband on Dec 19, 2012 21:27:54 GMT -5
Type 25 w/ pro pipe & extended mags... whoops I meant clip.
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Post by volgon on Dec 19, 2012 21:31:46 GMT -5
Keep in mind I play all my classes fairly aggressively. MTAR is my favorite gun. Since its ballistics are closer to an SMG (the MSMC) than an AR, I play it similarly. I run it as my stealth CQC setup. Primary Gunfighter with Suppressor + Laser are the mainstays and I switch between Quickdraw (which I prefer) and Stock (which makes the class play more fluidly). I like Quickdraw since it means I can sprint around more while still being capable in a surprise/head-on gunfight. I run it with Ghost + Scav/Toughness + Dexterity. I'd like to use Lightweight instead of one of my Tier 2 perks but A) view kick is brutal and B) I run out of ammo often so I'm kind of stuck in that regard.
My second favorite AR is the AN-94. It's not very good at hipfiring due to the slow RPM so I run Stock (along with Lightweight to maximize strafe speed). I also run Dual Mags on it due to aggressively play plus running it unsilenced.
I run the SCAR-H similarly to the AN-94 except with Grip instead of Dual Mags. Stock because its hipfire is bad. Grip is pretty much necessary but the recoil is still pretty nasty even with it.
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Post by MastaQ on Dec 19, 2012 21:32:16 GMT -5
FAL + TF + Stock + Suppressor = you win the game.
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Post by KenDirson on Dec 19, 2012 21:32:51 GMT -5
AN94 Grip Stock Extended Mags (fine, clip)
SMR TF Stock
M27 Suppressor Stock
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Post by asasa on Dec 19, 2012 21:34:25 GMT -5
FAL + TF + Stock + Suppressor = you win the game. And have next to no 2HK range. I suppose thats not a huge loss though
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Post by Robospy on Dec 19, 2012 21:39:23 GMT -5
MTAR - QD + Stock T25 - EOTech + Suppressor SWAT - TF + Select Fire FAL - EOTech + Suppressor M27 - Fast Mag + Launcher SCAR - Select Fire + Reflex M8A1 - QD + Suppressor SMR - ACOG + Fast Mag AN-94 - Select Fire + MMS
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Post by aidsaidsaids on Dec 19, 2012 21:39:52 GMT -5
FAL + TF + Stock + Suppressor = you win the game. And have next to no 2HK range. I suppose thats not a huge loss though It actually is a pretty big loss. FAL 3hk ttk isn't exactly competitive. The only ARs that make sense to use suppressed in my opinion are the AN-94 (still has some 3hk range and competitive ttk regardless with RoF gimmick), Scar (range), and Type-25 (high enough RoF that it's not as big a deal). I tried the FAL silenced for a while. I really wanted to make it work, because it's easily my favorite loud AR, but you get three hit kills for days.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Dec 19, 2012 21:40:00 GMT -5
AR wise I play FAL, SCAR-H, and AN-94 interchangeably, whichever is available at the moment (AN-94 is unlocked permanently, the other two at mercy of the leveling system). Probably not going to use other ARs until I reached max weapon prestige on all 3.
Attachment wise below are my preferences in descending order:
Stock Suppressor (probably not FAL) TF (for overwatch style of play) / QD (aggressive style of play)
I also like SF on FAL but try to avoid it in my current prestige run because it feels like a crutch. On the same note: I avoid putting grip on SCAR-H and found out the recoil for longer engagement can be effectively controlled by firing it in near-semi-auto fire rate.
I also use sights (RDS -> EOTech -> ACOG) from time to time to level up the reticules.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Dec 19, 2012 21:42:41 GMT -5
Another note: I found myself very reliant on Toughness when playing ARs. To me it is like another attachment (and the most important one). Without it the flinch is too annoying to bear.
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Post by asasa on Dec 19, 2012 21:47:46 GMT -5
I dont find the flinch to be at all reduced. I cant count the number of times I get killed because of flinch and I have toughness on every class.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Dec 19, 2012 21:51:06 GMT -5
I dont find the flinch to be at all reduced. I cant count the number of times I get killed because of flinch and I have toughness on every class. That's very surprising. With toughness I hardly flinch (sometimes I even complain that it is so small that gives me a false sense of security), and with power weapons like FAL/SCAR-H/AN-94 I have full confidence to win the face-off gun fight. Without toughness however, the flinch immediately throws my aim way over the enemy's head and makes me completely vulnerable. I am interested to see how other bros feel about this. For background info: I am on XBL and I have poor accuracy numbers (~14% for auto).
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Post by volgon on Dec 19, 2012 21:53:57 GMT -5
I dont find the flinch to be at all reduced. I cant count the number of times I get killed because of flinch and I have toughness on every class. Quite the opposite for me, I find Toughness invaluable and often find myself dying in situations without Toughness where I would have gotten a kill with it.
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Post by Broadband on Dec 19, 2012 21:55:02 GMT -5
They definitely upped flinch BIG TIME in Black Ops 2. I've gotten so many BS deaths where I'm shooting a guy and he gets a flinch headshot off me. This has happened to me before in other CoDs, but never to this extent.
I wish there was a perk that automatically skipped killcams. I have a bad habit of watching all of my killcams. It can't possibly be good for my blood pressure.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Dec 19, 2012 22:04:11 GMT -5
They definitely upped view kick BIG TIME in Black Ops 2. I've gotten so many BS deaths where I'm shooting a guy and he gets a view kick headshot off me. This has happened to me before in other CoDs, but never to this extent. I wish there was a perk that automatically skipped killcams. I have a bad habit of watching all of my killcams. It can't possibly be good for my blood pressure. You are willing to pay a perk for that? :-) How many times have you raged after being magically tracked and killed by TF? Back to flinch: at least for me it is annoying as hell. IMHO the only ways to overcome it is to either equip toughness (for AR) or immediately switch to hip fire after being shot (for SMG).
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Post by aidsaidsaids on Dec 19, 2012 22:04:39 GMT -5
I run Toughness on all my low RoF ARs (which happen to be my favorites). Each miss with the FAL or AN-94 represents a huge momentum loss to me. I find that Toughness very often makes the difference between kicking over a guy's head (bad), and into it (I'm alright with this).
For some reason I can't find global accuracy on Elite, but my accuracy for ARs ranges from 20.73% (M27) to 29.51% (FAL).
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Post by KenDirson on Dec 19, 2012 22:06:01 GMT -5
I dont find the flinch to be at all reduced. I cant count the number of times I get killed because of flinch and I have toughness on every class. That's very surprising. With toughness I hardly flinch (sometimes I even complain that it is so small that gives me a false sense of security), and with power weapons like FAL/SCAR-H/AN-94 I have full confidence to win the face-off gun fight. Without toughness however, the flinch immediately throws my aim way over the enemy's head and makes me completely vulnerable. I am interested to see how other bros feel about this. For background info: I am on XBL and I have poor accuracy numbers (~14% for auto). I can't do shit without Toughness. Then again, I aim at the lower torso/nuts in general, so flinch pushes me up, without toughness it jumps above the person while with toughness my aim stays on the enemy.
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Post by wantonRULE on Dec 20, 2012 10:49:23 GMT -5
I run Toughness on all my low RoF ARs (which happen to be my favorites). Each miss with the FAL or AN-94 represents a huge momentum loss to me. I find that Toughness very often makes the difference between kicking over a guy's head (bad), and into it (I'm alright with this). For some reason I can't find global accuracy on Elite, but my accuracy for ARs ranges from 20.73% (M27) to 29.51% (FAL). same for me on my scar. it's almost mandatory for me. i also use stock and all my ar's which allow me to strafe, buying me some time. i will also use quickdraw on occasions as well. with the type, i use fast mags, always
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Post by hyperion on Dec 20, 2012 12:52:33 GMT -5
flinching / viewkick in this game is annoying and only serves to make toughness mandatory.
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Post by Lexapro on Dec 20, 2012 17:19:57 GMT -5
Toughness definitely makes a difference. I don't find it necessary but its certainly nice to have. Probably invaluable on sniper classes and generally more useful the further away from enemies you intend to be.
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Post by asasa on Dec 20, 2012 17:29:44 GMT -5
Wow, thats really weird. Maybe its only shots from the side that flinch like crazy even with toughness, because I have daily occurrences where the sight is pushed way off to the side.
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Post by Zero IX on Dec 20, 2012 20:05:22 GMT -5
Toughness is huge for low-RPM weapons. Anyway, for me, Stock and Toughness are mandatory on most ARs, and I will include Lightweight if I can at all help it.
My top picks are FAL and AN-94.
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Post by richardj on Dec 20, 2012 21:06:09 GMT -5
I loved the M8 with laser & select fire. Then it got nerfed. I want my unlock token back, please.
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Post by Lexapro on Dec 20, 2012 21:36:39 GMT -5
FAL OSW + MMS + Select Fire is a great wallbanging combination.
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Post by I Am Hollywood5 on Dec 20, 2012 21:57:13 GMT -5
SCAR-H + MMS or FMJ is the best AR combo I've found. It has higher penetration capabilities than all other ARs so either capitalize on that with the MMS or go for absolute maximum wallbang potential.
SCAR-H is also the best full-auto AR for burst mode, IMO...
Pre-patch (or if you're on PC where they messed up the nerfs) the XM8 with Target Finder + Select Fire is unbelievably awesome.
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Post by markopolo on Dec 21, 2012 12:12:22 GMT -5
M27 with supressor, TF and stock
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Post by MoopusMaximus on Dec 21, 2012 13:44:32 GMT -5
I relate to none as an LMG bro.
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Post by hyperion on Dec 21, 2012 13:46:18 GMT -5
SCAR-H + MMS or FMJ is the best AR combo I've found. It has higher penetration capabilities than all other ARs so either capitalize on that with the MMS or go for absolute maximum wallbang potential. SCAR-H is also the best full-auto AR for burst mode, IMO... Pre-patch (or if you're on PC where they messed up the nerfs) the XM8 with Target Finder + Select Fire is unbelievably awesome. I really want to like the SCAR but it never works well for me. Even with its high damage the TTK seems too slow.
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Post by ZaTaisho on Dec 23, 2012 13:17:41 GMT -5
I fell in love with the SWAT 556 with Silencer & FMJ.
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Post by n3r0s on Dec 27, 2012 11:48:58 GMT -5
FAL with Silencer+SF+TF (Standoff!) AN-94 with Silencer+Stock and MMS (Hello HiJacked paper walls) AN-94 wih anything, this gun will be my Blops2 love.
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