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Post by slobbergoat on Apr 25, 2011 23:04:53 GMT -5
Is it actually possible to have a good experience in this game at all if you're not playing with several people in a team? Having tried it for the first time without at least two other people I know in my group I had the following fantastic experiences:
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Spawn, spot enemy at medium distance as assault, start firing with tap-tap-tap rhythm to ensure accurate fire, about three hitmarkers in enemy (who is firing on completely full auto) somehow kills me despite the way that if I fire this way I keep downing UAVs from the recoil.
Teammates all get killed by enemy too, who is firing full auto completely in the open with iron sights. Teammates then try to kill him with a tank, which somehow spontaneously combusts due to "destruction 2.0".
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Spawn, spot enemy planting at the remaining mcom station a good distance away and start firing three round bursts of perfectly aimed LMG bullets which apparently are made out of plastic and cause a million hitmarkers, to which enemy slowly turns around with the grace of a dead hippopotamous.
Magic bullets McNothingmaster starts spraying completely full auto with an SMG from roughly the distance from my house to the berlin wall and I die instantly without even damage notification, apparently from his bullets which should do about 10% life damage at this distance but are now miniature nuclear explosives with a fifty kiloton yield.
Mcom station explodes despite entire team being right next to it.
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Spawn, both teams have started tactical loitering nonstop with the enemy team still sitting at 50 tickets. A gregorian year later, tickets are at 49 as neither team is willing to expose themselves to shoot at the other team for a moment.
Change server
Lead player has a score of 208-3; spawn in and he's firing full auto abakan bursts from his spawn, the bullets travelling through the ground and instantly killing the enemies who are spawning in their base on the whole other side of the map.
Shrug and spawncamp enemy side for a half hour since this is the first time the bulldoo-doo has been on my side.
Exit game
Woop.
Playing this game without people to cooperate with is literally the worst experience I have ever had; sloppiness of the controls in particular not helping when you can't rely on somebody to cover you when you're trying to do something.
Barring just running around with a shotgun and cheaping people to death, trying to do anything without any clueful teammates makes any other game that would be considered frustrating incredibly enjoyable by comparison, particularly given that the number of cheap deaths you take seems to reach a singularity with the number of deaths you take when you're not backed up by somebody.
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Post by rubionubio on Apr 26, 2011 10:52:09 GMT -5
I don't know dude, I think you're taking it too seriously, in my opinion. Yes, the game definitely changes when not playing with a squad, but that doesn't have to mean that it's crappy; It's only crappy if you refuse to change along with it.
Example: You can't expect to personally effect a win or loss every match you play in. There are a million reasons for this, but the most relevant is: Chances are good that there's at least one squad on the other team that is playing semi-coherently, and Murphy's Law means that you'll go up against that squad 90% of the time, and they'll beat you away from the MCOMs 100% of the time if you're playing solo and "rushing".
I dunno Slobber, it honestly just sounds like you were having a bad day and projected that on BC2 a little bit, if you don't mind me saying. I look at those experiences and shrug, because in my eyes they're just part of the random BS that comes with online gaming. They piss me off just as much when I'm having a bad day, just to be clear; But aside from me questioning the amount of time I spend playing BC2 (was waaay too much) there aren't any long term effects; Just exit the game and come back another time ya know?
I dunno if you're ever on PC or if you're a console player or whatever, but feel free to hit me up or play on my server if you want some non-idiots to play with. There's always going to be SOME Bull-Shite that you have to put up with, but I guess it's just about changing your game or perspective a little so that you don't have to face it non-stop. For instance, when I'm playing solo I pretty much for-go any attempt at *really winning*, in favor of just having a good time. It's not that I don't play to win, but I'm a lot less likely to sacrifice my tickets trying to be the guy disarming the MCOM or whatever. Now if I notice that I'm in a good squad or some mates come on TeamSpeak then it's a 180 degree turn and I will gladly nerf my own lethal-ness to take smoke grenades or whatever.
I'm sure "Suck it up and quit whining" isn't what you're looking to get as a response, and hopefully that's not what you read this as... Just a reminder to not feel bad/guilty/wrong about changing your playstyle when "solo" to something that's going to be more in line with the realities of the situation. Yes, you're still going to get the odd random death, the idiot Rambo-Reviver, the Full-Auto death from across the map, etc... But they'll be a lot less frustrating when they're not followed up by even more deaths at the hands of your stupid team-mates.
TL:DR = Screw your random teammates, play for yourself or whatever you need to do to have fun when playing solo, and get a BJ before you play (during?) so all that shite just rolls off you instead of making you RAGE. <3
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Post by dog on Apr 26, 2011 16:56:18 GMT -5
I don't know about you guys,
but after trying to give the game some love,
and going through the epic learning curve to improve myself.
I still find myself ragequitting 3 to 5 servers on average before I can find one that isn't full of sh*t or sh*t working in my favor.
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Post by Contrary on Apr 26, 2011 21:10:27 GMT -5
Lol that's why I play on PS- oh wait shit.
At least you get to play at all. D:
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Post by Keralastic on Apr 26, 2011 22:16:59 GMT -5
I notice I can usually enjoy the game more when I'm playing on servers with less than 24 players.
It's a shame there are so few 16 player servers left.
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Post by slobbergoat on Apr 26, 2011 22:54:27 GMT -5
I don't know about you guys, but after trying to give the game some love, and going through the epic learning curve to improve myself. I still find myself ragequitting 3 to 5 servers on average before I can find one that isn't full of sh*t or sh*t working in my favor. To be honest I don't even find the game to have much of a learning curve either - after all the GameFAQs (I know~) retards ranting on about how much more skillful it is than CoD it seems the 'extra skill' in this game primarily amounts to out-cheaping your opposition while behaving with as little skill as possible. I'm sure it's plenty easy to claim this game is more skillful than CoD when the reason you're getting as many kills as you are is from spawn tactical loitering or tank whoring, but when I actually go into the gunplay and classes themselves in this game the whole thing seems to fall apart.
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Post by klokateer on Apr 27, 2011 10:15:37 GMT -5
To be honest I don't even find the game to have much of a learning curve either - after all the GameFAQs (I know~) retards ranting on about how much more skillful it is than CoD it seems the 'extra skill' in this game primarily amounts to out-cheaping your opposition while behaving with as little skill as possible. I'm sure it's plenty easy to claim this game is more skillful than CoD when the reason you're getting as many kills as you are is from spawn tactical loitering or tank whoring, but when I actually go into the gunplay and classes themselves in this game the whole thing seems to fall apart. the thing about "skill level" associated with any game is that your results will vary from person to person because that is simply an opinion. I feel this game requires more skill than CoD type games because of the team work required to win a match. Sure the games are similar, when you're staring down your sights at an enemy who is doing the same at you, but overall the gameplay is much more involved that just the shootout engagements. Honestly, because this game emphasizes teamplay so much, you're going to continue to have a bad experience as you have recently until you make some friends and play in a squad. Once you get in a squad that works well together, this game is like none other that you have played.
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Post by 418Y on May 2, 2011 2:28:58 GMT -5
When I don't have at least 1 mate that plays BF with me, I usually do 1 of these 3 things:
1) Play Squad Deathmatch with a Recon. You have motion sensors, and don't really need a squad in order to do well and have fun. Eventually you'll find a good assault mate that replenishes your sensors, but you'll be an efficient lone wolf anyway (I often use G3 + Body Armor and try to stick to close range encounters where this build excels, but in certain maps the SAIGA is the most effective choice - I just hate it).
2) Join a 32 players Conquest in Heavy Metal / Atacama / Harvest Day with a C4 based Assault, spawn in base every time, grab a quad or a jeep, put four C4 on it (keep 2 just in case you need them for a quick tank kill), and blow up tanks like a boss with your wheeled nuclear bomb. You can easily go positive, don't need a squad at all, and it's hella funny while you still help your team winning by lefting the enemy without heavy vehicles. I managed to blow up 2 tanks with 1 quad a couple of times, and well it's fucking awesome.
3) Play Call of Duty.
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Post by TheLegendaryJ on May 18, 2011 13:46:11 GMT -5
When I don't have at least 1 mate that plays BF with me, I usually do 1 of these 3 things: 1) Play Squad Deathmatch with a Recon. You have motion sensors, and don't really need a squad in order to do well and have fun. Eventually you'll find a good assault mate that replenishes your sensors, but you'll be an efficient lone wolf anyway (I often use G3 + Body Armor and try to stick to close range encounters where this build excels, but in certain maps the SAIGA is the most effective choice - I just hate it). 2) Join a 32 players Conquest in Heavy Metal / Atacama / Harvest Day with a C4 based Assault, spawn in base every time, grab a quad or a jeep, put four C4 on it (keep 2 just in case you need them for a quick tank kill), and blow up tanks like a boss with your wheeled nuclear bomb. You can easily go positive, don't need a squad at all, and it's hella funny while you still help your team winning by lefting the enemy without heavy vehicles. I managed to blow up 2 tanks with 1 quad a couple of times, and well it's Foxtrotting awesome. 3) Play Call of Duty. 4) Go on Rush as Attackers, be a Medic, revive and heal the hell out of everyone for massive points and less rage.
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Post by kirbyderby on May 18, 2011 21:54:13 GMT -5
Slug shotty sniping anyone? Even if it's not exactly efficient, pulling off those headshots makes it all worth it IMO.
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Post by raxcoswell on May 19, 2011 8:28:30 GMT -5
Haha, first post is written greatly.
But yeah, I just don't play BF anymore unless at least one of my guys is going to play with me. You can do what rubio says and play for yourself, but when I'm playing properly, guys doing that piss me off no end, so I don't like to be one. The times when I used to play solo, I tended to get weirdly overcompensating when shit wasn't working out for me. I'd play medic and just follow people round heal/revive, barely even shoot my gun, or follow a tank around as engi glued to the back of it. Not a whole lot of fun frankly. Occasionally I figure I'll go get those achievements for getting 100 kills with all the guns on vietnam, then I spend about 8 minutes trying to use that atrocious semi auto sniper and just ragequit.
So yeah, play cod or whatever until your boys are online, just not worth it getting yourself all mad and sashing your own stats.
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Post by Danthemanpr on May 19, 2011 10:24:25 GMT -5
Dunno, I play alone all the time and I have fun. You just have to adjust your play - you can't rely on others, so just observe what they do and follow along. You will not be nearly as effective without your team - you just have to accept that, and try to enjoy the match in other ways.
If you truly don't enjoy playing without your bros, then don't even try playing when they are not online.
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Post by field on May 20, 2011 21:52:34 GMT -5
Your on a team with a bunch of people that more or less know what needs to get done. You can observe teammates and see thier intentions. You know for yourself what you should probably be doing or what is most useful for the situation.
If your getting busted hard just calm down a little bit and take things a bit slower. Think about what you are doing. There is a difference between 'being slow' and 'taking it slow' ....you can very quickly aim and shoot at someone but you dont need to be sprinting everywhere.
I like winning but i never play with friends so i know that i can only do so much to influence how the team does. If we lose but i personally did pretty well and got some points then im halfway satisfied. Right now im just going for platinums to aid in leveling up.
So really i guess this means if you want to have easy continued enjoyment of the game.... dont be too hell bent on having a team win.... If you are killing enemies left and right and doing well for yourself its hard to not be helping your team win at the same time.
Help your team help itself.
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